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Written by: bobo
1/11/2009 4:41 PM 

Apparently, Goldman knew that Madoff was a fraud almost a decade ago. As this article in the Telegraph points out, there was a company-wide ban against doing anything with his firm after they did diligence on him:

"More than a decade ago bankers from Goldman Sachs' asset management division were despatched to Bernard Madoff Investment Securities to discover how the legendary fund manager maintained such consistently good returns.

The American banking giant prided itself on managing funds in-house but if it could get a better deal for its clients at Madoff, Goldman would gracefully admit it and allocate some funds.

One former Goldman partner said: "I remember the guys came back baffled. Madoff refused to let them do any due diligence on the funds and when they asked about the firm's investment strategy they couldn't understand it. Goldman not only black-listed Madoff in the asset management division but banned the brokering side from trading with the firm too."

So, Goldman figured it out, and protected themselves and their clients. Good for them. Of course, the only hitch in this gitty up is that Goldman's head, Hank Paulson, went on to become Treasury Secretary....but never mentioned that one of the larger players on the street was likely a fraud.

Now, if you know or suspect that someone is engaged in felonious activity, aren't you supposed to report it, or you're running the risk of acting as an accessory to the crime? I'm not an attorney, but I do seem to remember something like that being true.

Even if that isn't the way the law is written, don't you think that it might be, well, unusual, from an ethical perspective, to be named to the top financial position in the nation, but not find the time to mention to the DOJ or SEC or anyone else that your firm had long ago decided that Madoff was engaged in illegal activity?

What does this say about Mr. Paulson?

I've been a critic of our Treasury Secretary for some time, given that he appears to be doing nothing more but using scare tactics to landgrab the national jewels for his buds on Wall Street. But this adds some valuable info, some backstory, as 'twere, to the outline we have of the man's moral character.

Couple it with the fact that none of the banks are lending any of the money they've been allocated for bailouts and sweetheart loans, and you get a more complete picture of Paulson the privateer.

Look, if the problem with the economic system was really that the credit markets were "frozen" Treasury could have taken that $750 billion and created seven or eight banks, funding them each with a hundred billion and change, and then had them start lending. That's not what they did, now is it? Or they could have mandated that anyone accessing the funds had to use them for lending - made it the law. Didn't do that either, did they?

No, instead, Wall Street got free money with no strings, and the taxpayer pays the bill, for the next generation or two.

To me, this looks like the looting of the Treasury by the exiting administration, who engineered one of the largest swindles in history using "sky is falling" rhetoric.

As always, the press has just ignored reality, and credulously parroted whatever the party line is. This time, it's that we have a credit market problem as banks don't want to lend, which was started by a sub-prime default fest. Hogwash, as we now know - the problem is that the paper that banks all over the globe bought and levered up on as though it was bullion, is actually largely counterfeit and worthless junk engineered by the same Wall Street swindlers who are now looting the Treasury. All those banks are bankrupt now, which is why their governments have had to nationalize them.

The problem isn't the credit markets. It isn't that banks aren't lending. It's that Wall Street has created a massive derivatives and counterfeiting nightmare that is impossible to fix, and which will ultimately lead to a decade-long depression as it unwinds, the debt defaults, and the dollar loses 90% of its purchasing power. I know, I know, that's so far-fetched. As was the notion that the SEC was co-opted by the bad guys, and was actively assisting them in market manipulation. As was the idea that most of the NY financial press was writing hatchet jobs for hedge funds to further their market manipulation and insider trading profits. Yup, there's lots and lots of far fetched zaniness that is seeming awfully prescient these days.

The fact is that you cannot have a stagnant or shrinking GDP and increase the money supply by many trillions, and not have devaluation. The math doesn't work any other way. You can lie, and bluster, and bully your trading partners into supporting your currency for a while, but the combo of shrinking GDP and massive increase in number of dollars has to result in massive inflation - only question is when. I think we will see deflation for the next year or so, and then the commencement of the next leg of the dollar's drop into oblivion.

Think Britain in the 60's, and you will get the idea. The rich will stay rich, the poor will remain poor, however the formerly fat middle class will watch their wealth evaporate as the currency goes into the toilet. We will become like the British middle class - a nation of people wearing sweaters indoors in the winter as we can't afford to heat our homes, where our children have nothing to look forward to but a bleak future of unending debt payments they can't afford, and where the social contract between us and our government has been broken - the deal is supposed to be that we exchange the fruits of our labor for protection. As it is, we work about 7 months out of the year to pay the government to protect us, and instead it's failed us. It instead has condoned the theft of our retirements, the destruction of our freedoms, and our gradual enslavement to special interests.

We've effectively destroyed the engine of innovation and wealth creation that was the market system - a system that used to fund start-up companies, which in turn innovated tomorrow's products and technologies, which created jobs and prosperity. That market is now an entropy engine, where the players prosper by destroying the companies, leaving their technologies stillborn on the trading room floor. So we are facing a future of pseudo-socialism, where out tax dollars are redistributed to industries that aren't productive or competitive via bailouts, and our future is one of make-work projects so the unwashed can have their government subsidy exchanged for their labor, disguising the welfare, at least for a time. And just wait until the real Ponzi scheme comes undone - Social Security.

In the meantime, I am vaguely curious to watch how the whole naked short selling thing works its way through the system. It's obvious now that none of the rules mean anything, and that even during the supposed complete ban on short selling, that there was massive and continuous shorting. If you haven't checked it out, see this article at the Deepcapture site for an analysis of what complete bullsh#t the press' treatment of the short selling ban is. Seems that all those articles bemoaning the fact that the ban didn't do any good, and in fact might have hurt, FAILED TO NOTE THAT SHORTING WENT THROUGH THE ROOF DURING THE BAN.

Huh.

Sort of another rhino in the room that the press conveniently ignored. We have an entire wildlife sanctuary full of elephants and rhinos they missed by now.

It isn't even fun to point out all the hypocrisy anymore. The level of corruption is far, far greater than anything any of us conceived of a few short years ago, and now that we are seeing the curtain pulled back, it's clear that we are well over the precipice and accelerating towards the ground, even as our protectors strip the last of the fat from the carcass.

Wish I could offer up some more positive or optimistic news, but it's looking grim, my friends.

As always, Digg it if you dig it.

Copyright ©2009 Bob O'Brien

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21 comment(s) so far...

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

The more exposes that come out backed up by credible agencies I feel more like a 6 year old who has been raped by her grandfather. This is beyond comprehension and all the bashers and Cramers of the world can't put perfume on the manure anymore. I hope Obama doesn't get Bush's play book or we will see this problem compound many times over.

By rtway on   1/11/2009 10:27 PM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

The playbook. The fellows appointed to the DOJ accounting are the same fellows who were doing the accounting there when 2.3 trillion went missing.

By mhelburn on   1/12/2009 7:53 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

rtway - I agree WS needs to be regulated - maybe even disbanded and sent to cities accross the country - look at their most recent speculative bubble:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/08/60minutes/main4707770_page2.shtm

I do hope however that you recognize the huge numbers of Democratic sympathizers that had their fingers in this mess also.

I vote Republican, but I never voted to turn Wall Street into a casino, and I never realized that the SEC was a sham (it was Roosevelt that installed Kennedy)

Paul

By Paul on   1/12/2009 7:54 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Hi Bob, another good one from you.

It was not only Goldman. France's Société Générale did exactly the same (Try to conduct audits) and came to the exact same conclusion, by the same actions (Internal BLACK LIST but told nobody outside.)
Sooo... it was not so difficult to find out about Madoff, except of course, if you are the SEC!

By cutty on   1/12/2009 7:54 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

17 Wall Street firms were unable to borrow money to stay alive, so their solution was to lie to their customers. They told their customers they were buying US treasuries, but instead took their money and paid them interest at US treasuries rates, crediting their accounts for IOU's for US treasuries.

!!! THIS IS FRAUD !!!

They couldn't borrow money at high interest rates, so their solution was to borrow $2 trillion from their customers at low interest rates, lie to them and tell them they are lending it to the government?

Treasuries interest rates are set in an auction, so all this extra BS treasury sales pushes the interest down, ripping off Joe Taxpayer.

Someone needs to go to jail over this.

Fails to deliver of stock can be complicated to understand and is easy to blame on the company, but fails to deliver of government securities are easy to understand.

Take a minute and email your representative and demand they investigate why the taxpayer is being ripped off.

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

http://investorprotectioncoalition.org/files/Euromoney_Magazine_FTD_Treasuries.pdf

"Following the collapse of Lehman Brothers in September, fails to deliver among the 17 primary dealers in the US treasury market have rocketed to more than $2 trillion over a period of weeks and still lie above $1.3 trillion."

By davidn on   1/12/2009 1:06 PM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

it's time for a nationwide boycott of Wall St. until we the kind of accountability, transparency that offer "some" kind of safety.....anyone who invests in it now deserves whatever (good or bad) outcome....people know enough now to get out and stay out...

By clearthinker on   1/12/2009 1:07 PM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

It is possible that Goldman did not have direct evidence of fraud at Madoff. They had suspicions and judgement, based on (attempted) due diligence, to avoid him. Calling the cops without evidence is not required, and may have even exposed them to liability if they were wrong.

But Paulson should have pushed the SEC to take a close look as soon as he took over at Treasury.

By cagauss on   1/12/2009 12:10 PM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Bob, what ever happened to deepcaptures $75.000 cracking the code contest?

Thanks

SandraJ

By SandraJ on   1/12/2009 1:59 PM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Sandra: My understanding is that it's been over for some time. Perhaps you should direct questions to the deepcapture team?

By bobo on   1/12/2009 2:00 PM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

If GS knew that Madoff was a scam, they could blackmail him at every turn. They could coerce him to do their bidding in his industry positions. It would be to their benefit to keep a corrupt person in those positions and actually pretend he was credible. Knowing that a guy is a criminal and letting him sit on boards that control decisions is safer than having a boyscout there. It was just a little larceny.

davidn.. very perceptive on the bond failures..

By failing to deliver on   1/13/2009 7:25 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Cutty, SG was not without problems. See Floyd Norris article.. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/07/business/07norris.html

Rogue trader made a bull bet on the market and lost SG 7 billion, largest mess to that date... Then, in trying to manage earnings, SG moves the loss back to 2007. What is funny, is that the trades were made in 2008. Of course, SG recognized that Madoff was a criminal... takes one to know one.

By thieves, just common ordinary thieves.. on   1/13/2009 7:26 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5455605137215634518&ei=v6EjScWsBIeQrAKwoJ3dAw&q=Catherine%2BAustin%2BFitts

By Fitts on the economy on   1/13/2009 3:35 PM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

The Catherine Fitts video is a must watch. She completely gets it, and is terribly convincing. It's as bad or worse than we thought.

By bobo on   1/13/2009 5:53 PM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Catherine Fitts from the video is the same one that wrote this article on the role of money laundering in the markets. It's a repost, but also a must read.

Scroll down to the photo of Grasso in Columbia

http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars1.html

and ask yourself if you better understand this headline from 2004 trying to understand why he received $188 million in pay for one year of service.

By narco on   1/14/2009 6:25 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Worse. Now I know why Patrick was despondent in a recent video.

By rick on   1/14/2009 6:26 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Bobo,

This article puts some numbers on the counterfeit bonds. http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1217946600.php

"Discrepancies in America's accounts hide a black hole

`By Daniel Gros

Published: June 15 2006 03:00 | Last updated: June 15 2006 03:00

The global financial system seems to have a black hole at its centre. Over the last two decades, US residents have sold a total of about $5,500bn worth of IOUs to foreigners, yet the officially recorded net investment position of the US has deteriorated only by a little more than half of this amount ($2,800bn). The US capital market seems to have acted like a black hole for investors from the rest of world in which $2,700bn vanished from sight - or at least from the official statistics.

How can $2,700bn disappear?

It is often argued that the US can simply make large capital gains on its gross positions because its assets are denominated in foreign currency and its liabilities in dollars. However, the available data indicate that over the last two decades this factor has netted the US at most $300bn-$400bn. This still leaves a loss of well over $2,000bn to be explained….."

If you look at Paulson's resume.. he was in a unique postion to know how all this works. The black hole took the money and spent it in covert ways. To cover up the monetizing of the worthless bonds and sale to others, these bonds have to come back.. and into the economy... worthless. The bailout represents the debt that the taxpayer unknowingly acquired from the covert operations.

The policies that have been instituted.. like the Fed paying banks to keep the money out of circulation when we are in a credit crisis, the refusal to change mark to market... no judicial oversight...

My guess is that the counterfeiting took place at FRE and FNM. The money was transferred to covert operations to continue the war and that the real costs of running the war are much greater than the "government" reports. Within these costs are the overruns and cost plus contractors. Cheney was quoted, "Deficits don't matter." This is a sociopathic statement.

By Black hole economics on   1/14/2009 6:26 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Breaking News

•Bank of America Gets $138 Billion in U.S. Funds, Guarantees on Asset Pool

By Sean on   1/16/2009 6:50 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Sean. To put that into perspective, if there are about 200 million adults in the US, that means every adult in the country just gave BofA $70.

Must be nice to be a bank, where you get to keep all the money if your bets go right, and you get to stick the country with hundreds of billions of tab if they don't.

Where can I get a gig like that?

By bobo on   1/16/2009 6:54 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

Pam Martens has an excellent article on Madoff and Primex. http://www.counterpunch.org/martens01152009.html

Citigroup’s Smith Barney, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs had to know as they were his partners.

By Author is required on   1/19/2009 6:20 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

The challenge here is that everyone gets hung up on one issue. Look at the big picture - what's really going on..

You have naked short selling going completely unchecked - total fraud.

We're in Afghanistan, and supposedly there's a war on drugs, and meanwhile, there's bumper crops of drugs coming out of Afghanistan right now. If we cared about the drugs, why haven't the fields been torched?

We are in Iraq right now supposedly to fight the terorrists over there, before they come here. Oh, but meanwhile, we leave our borders wide open. Makes sense, ehh?

Oh, and then 9/11. Need I even go into that mess, and the 40 or so "unusual events" that came together to make that happen. Oh, but then one month 9/11, they pass a 2000 page bill called the patriot act that takes away most of our civil liberties, and goes into, of all things, gold ownership and how you could be called a terrorist if you own gold.

And now you have Henry Kissinger just outright saying in and editorial and on CNBC that Obama has a chance to create a "new world order". Search that one...

The CIA funds black ops through primarily three sources - Stock manipulation, drugs and pornography. What are those black ops?? Conspiracy theories make a whole heck of a lot more sense than what the mainstream media says. Evryone says that the mainstream media is controlled, but everyone watches it anyway. What if the whacko conspiracy theories are right?

By no one at all on   1/19/2009 6:20 AM

Re: Goldman Sachs and Madoff - Mr. Paulson Shocked To Learn There's Gambling Going On In There!!!

I heard that Obama today closed the revolving door between government service (executive branch, anyhow) and lobbying jobs. Don't have details, but if true he has done us all a service.

By honkytonker on   1/21/2009 1:26 PM

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