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Rod Young versus The SEC

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Posted by:   bobo 2/19/2006 10:34 PM

To hear the meeting with the SEC, use one of the two links:

Windows Medial Player: http://www.connectlive.com/events/secopenmeetings/sec-021306-archive.asx

Real Player:                  http://www.connectlive.com/events/secopenmeetings/sec-021306-archive.ram

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I listened to a remarkable exchange today. The exchange was not the body of the Rodney Young hearing with the SEC. No, in that part of the hearing, I already was passingly familiar with all of the issues. Rodney detailed the pattern of market maker illegal failing to deliver that characterized the trading in his stock, documented the complaints to the SEC and the pleas to come to the assistance of the company when facing blatant manipulation, chronicled the history of abuse that took it from a double digit stock to a penny stock in a matter of a few months.

No, the remarkable part was the question from the SEC commissioner, a Ms. Glassman, the only question leveled by her, really, which was:

“My Understanding is that companies generally use earnings from operations to pay for costs related to filing the registration statements” 

Huh?

Development stage companies don’t have that option, as their product isn’t being sold yet. Their currency is their stock. They raise money by borrowing money using their equity as collateral, or sell equity to fund their R&D and operations.

Now, the inference was obvious: You weren’t a real company, thus had no business being listed.

The reason this was noteworthy was because it followed Rod explaining, in detail, how the company was crushed by illegal stock manipulation that the SEC had allowed to occur. Which Ms. Glassman apparently missed, or wasn’t interested in.

Ms. Glassman, who likely has never run a business in her life, nor started one, probably isn’t aware that a lot of companies have a period where they are in the development side of the curve. Thus, she probably doesn’t appreciate the distinction between a development stage company and one that has revenues.

Given that she is one of the commissioners who is chartered with policing the markets, I felt that it would be wise if she had the faintest inkling as to what she was talking about. In that spirit, I have designed a primer for the SEC commissioners to use when considering complex business issues, featuring the intrepid signing gorilla Koko:

Koko have 10 apples. Koko love apples. Tasty apples good, yum yum yum.

Koko want to make apple pies. Koko think can sell pies for more than apples. Farmer always saying, “I love those apple pies!”

So Koko start a pie company.

Koko take her apple basket and put by the table. Make the pie crust. Yummy crust.

Koko then slice up apples. But two are mealy. Bad apples ruin that bunch for pie. So now Koko need more apples.

Hen come along and say, “Hey Koko, go pick apples, I’ll watch these.”

Koko know Hen sneaky, always trying to trick her out of apples.

But Koko need more apples. So she agree. “Watch apples, Hen, Koko be back quick.”

While Koko off picking more apples, Hen steals all Koko’s apples and sells them to Mr. Fox, the landlord, who is supposed to protect the farm, and who also loves apples. Hen sneaky. Bad hen.

Koko come back with 3 apples to find Hen gone, apples gone, pie company in shambles.

“What am I to do?” cries Koko.

Farmer come, see Koko, ask Koko what is wrong. Koko know she in trouble now, because every day she supposed to give Farmer 10 apples, so he can give them to Mr. Fox.

“Hen stole all my apples, Farmer!”

Farmer say, don’t worry Koko, we explain to Mr. Fox, and he will understand, punish Hen, get your apples back. So they go see Mr. Fox.

Mr. Fox is just finishing up the apples he bought for pennies from Hen. “What is the problem, Farmer, Koko?”

“Hen steal all my apples, and I was going to make a pie, and now no pie, no apples, and no Hen.”

Mr. Fox smile an evil smile. “Well, Koko, that is sad, but where are the 10 apples you and Farmer owe me today?”

Koko look down and see apple seeds and peels all around Mr. Fox’s feet.

“Mr. Fox, Koko no have apples, you ate my apples that Hen stole from me!”

Mr. Fox burp apple. “Koko, I am under the impression that successful apple pie companies pay their daily apple quota from their surplus of apples – why don’t you have any apples to pay me with?”

Farmer steps in. “Because Hen stole them.”

Mr. Fox says, “I see. So you have no apples. I’m afraid I am going to have to throw you off my land, then, as no apples, no land. So sorry.”

Koko can’t believe it. “But Hen steal my apples. You ate my apples! This isn’t fair!”

Mr. Fox smile. “I make the rules. Hen is a valuable participant. You have no apples. Shame on you for not having apples – what a lazy dirty monkey.”

Now, the moral of the story is simple – if you are going to let miscreants rob your startup companies blind, cutting off their access to vital resources, you can’t pretend you didn’t know about it (especially if there are hundreds of complaints) and then chastise the companies. It isn’t fair, or good, and it is akin to robbery.

Apparently that is the business some folks at the SEC believe that they are in. I was actually stunned by that question, as it told me all I needed to know as to the acumen of the commissioner.

Now, I’m not arguing that Rod’s company should or should not be de-listed. I’m not saying that the company is good, or bad, or anywhere in between. As with OSTK, I don’t much think it matters. What matters to me is whether the SEC understands that the law is supposed to be applied evenly, for all companies – and if it failed to take action against those that Rod claims robbed his company blind, how can it then ask questions like the one the commissioner asked? It is akin to a cop watching thieves steal the gas out of a car, and then coming over and demanding that the owner move the vehicle or be cited.

And I found it more than a little shocking. As should you.

Copyright ©2006 Bob O'Brien
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Comments (16)
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By anonymous on 2/20/2006 7:53 AM
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You HEATHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You expect that ALL be treated FAIRLY under the law?????????????????

It would be nice, wouldn't it?
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By mfm1021_99 on 2/20/2006 7:54 AM
Ms. Glassman has a cute voice. Does she also have big hooters? She sets the 'womens' movement' back 20 years but maybe we can offer her "Bimbo of the Week" as some solace?
Or might that award more appropriately be given to the attorney for the division of SEC enforcement? He spent all those gov't resources only to conclude the obvious: a company without revenue cannot afford filing costs.
A total disgrace!
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By piddly_sum on 2/20/2006 7:55 AM
Every time Commissioner Nazareth looked out into the audience, she quickly gave up on this effort. Maybe it was just me looking her daggers back, or maybe it was the whole audience.

How do these people sleep at night?

Too bad for the snowstorm.
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By curious george on 2/20/2006 7:56 AM
Monkey Business

Allow lifesaving biotech startups with potentially great new medical treatments to go public.
Raise funds from investors to pay for the expensive research and patient trials necessary to bring the product to market.
Collude with other naked short scammers to destroy the price of the company because they have no product yet.
Naked short the company so that it cannot afford to continue product and treatment development.
Use some of your naked shorting profits to buy gifts for your new found political friends on the Hill.
Use the rest of the fool hardy investor’s money to buy yourself a big house in the Hamptons far from the madding crowd.
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By anon on 2/20/2006 7:56 AM
Appears that after 2000-2001, it's official SEC policy that only companies that have positive cashflow at all times, don't ever require secondary offerings, and have protection paid off via underwriting to Wall Street, deserve the protection of securiities laws in this country.
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By antny@singsing on 2/20/2006 8:30 AM
The talent pool is pretty thin at the SEC. Rod should have replied "REFCO had earnings and filed on time. Is that what the SEC sees as a success story?"
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By aldigit01 on 2/20/2006 8:26 AM
Bob,
Call me naive and overly hopeful but I heard something else in Glassman's voice and question. When listening, thought I heard this to be a leading question designed to get the answer into the record.

Up to that point, hadn't heard a connect the dots statement that tied Rod's reason for not making the filings to the SEC failing in its responsibility to protect Eagletech from market manipulators/illegal naked short sellers that had cut him off from the capital needed to make the filings.
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By bobo on 2/20/2006 8:33 AM
aldigit: The earlier guy asked the same question during the hearing. My feeling was that they were establishing that Eagletech wasn't a "real" company deserving of being listed - or apparently of the protection of the securities laws.

That's what I got from it.

Again, I don't argue that they should or shouldn't be de-listed. What I am pointing out is that it is hypocrisy of the highest order if the circumstance that destroyed their ability to meet filing deadlines was illegal market manipulation condoned by the SEC.
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By aldigit01 on 2/20/2006 8:52 AM
Bob,
Just re-listened to it. I missed the first time the question was asked and now I concur with your analysis completely.

So, the only question is whether Ms. Glassman is truely ignorant of the issue and this is the Peter Principle in action which cheats the issuers of protection they're entitled to or it's an intentional bit of hide the problem housecleaning which speaks of a criminal complicit level of cooperation between the SEC and those abusing loopholes in the system.
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By hwh on 2/20/2006 9:58 AM
The names of companies w/significant revenues that file secondary offerings to finance growth due to new lines of business & new product development would astound her. They would compliment the argument also. She must resign, and Mrs. Nazareth must choose objectivity leaning to the company side(ties go to the runner) or recusal...hwh
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By MajorIssuer on 2/20/2006 9:59 AM
Everybody is a criminal if given the opportunity. Clearly, there is a little bit of the Peter Principle at play here, but my guess is that complicity is such that it can now be considered criminal. Does it matter? He who knows how to play the game needs no special protection. Call me a cynic.
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By antny@singsing on 2/20/2006 11:57 AM
http://www.thestreet.com/_tscrss/stocks/brokerages/10269303_2.html

see this? congrats to those fighting this fight. the stampede has already left the barn
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By robelita on 2/20/2006 10:41 AM
Woodrow Wilson, in his declining years after his presidency, privately admitted his regrets with the establishment of the Federal Reserve System, another PRIVATELY-held organism with publicly-held beliefs misconstrued by the vast majority of citizens-much akin to the DTCC. When the US dropped the gold standard in favor of paper or fiat currency a means was created whereby monetary value could be "adjusted" with the addition or removal of printed notes making value a subjective measure contrary to the objective standard inherent in the price of gold. The problems associated with subjective valuation are too numerous for digression-suffice it to say that inflation, recession, stagflation and depression are the unintended (or intended if you subscribe to conspiratorial conjecture) by-products. Now with the DTCC we see more of the by-products of private ownership of public transctions-FTD's, NSS, lack of scrutiny or transparency and a general shroud of secrecy-much like Skull and Bones and other secret societies. Casting day-light on these vampires is only a precursor-the stake-in-the-heart will be public indignation followed by the cleansing of the political temples which engendered and empowered the abuses to exist. Like the usurious acceleration clause in a mortgage contract which allows a bank to collect interest before principle in the early life of a typical mortgage, public education will foster the appropriate reform. America's history of revolt is ingrained in the huddled masses.
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By dave on 2/20/2006 11:42 AM
The nature of the fiat money system is such that ANY private bank can effectively print money. It's because of the netting.

In the continuous net settlement system, 97% of share trades cancel out.

The same happens in a bank. For every bank draft or wire going out TO another bank, there is an incoming bank draft or wire FROM another bank.

Effectively, all money is created out of thin air by the act of borrowing.

Most people know the Federal Reserve can print money (I met one of the guys who did their software and they quite literally can write checks backed by nothing to buy government bonds), but few know that any bank can do the same thing. Your mortgage document becomes the asset the cancels out the loan that they give you. They monetize your debt.

I think it is the success on the banking side that makes them brave in securities.


Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By hwh on 2/20/2006 2:52 PM
Everyone seems to be learning this is a banking problem more than securities. When that is addressed througn the O.C.C(Office of the Comptroller of the Currency) things will get resolved fast. The FED wants people to think they are in charge when it is actually the OCC...hwh
Re: Rod Young versus The SEC By kevinw777 on 2/21/2006 7:17 AM

“If Eagletech was simply a shareholder, it could argue the property rights of a shareholder”.

Thank you Rodney Young! Thank you for standing up for the rights of companies and their shareholders against the market manipulation being carried out by unscrupulous thieves and apparently sanctioned by members of our Senate that have been hired and trusted by the people of America to safeguard our markets.

Why is obvious counterfeiting of securities in our markets being allowed to happen under the watchful eyes of our Senate Banking Committee who is responsible for the oversight of regulation in our markets? Why is the Congress, the Senate and the White House not taking action on this crime that is now quickly becoming a news event? We will tell you why in a moment. But first, let's take a minute to examine what is happening today.

On Monday, February 13, 2006, Rodney Young was given the opportunity to participate in an oral argument on the petition of Eagletech Communications, Inc. of the initial decision of Administrative Law Judge William Kelly to revoke all classes of Eagletech securities. Commissioners present at the hearing were Cynthia A. Glassman, Paul S. Atkins, Roel C. Campos and Annette L. Nazareth. (complete transcript of the hearing available at http://www.investigatethesec.com/ET20060215.pdf or listen to the web-cast at http://www.connectlive.com/events/secopenmeetings/sec-021306-archive.asx )

Representing the SEC in this hearing was Anthony T. Byrne. We would like to thank Mr. Byrne for making the following statement: “If Eagle Tech was simply a shareholder, it could argue the property rights of a shareholder”.

What are property rights of a shareholder? They are the rights of that shareholder to be able to obtain true value and physical possession of the property that they paid for. What is physical possession of property? Holding a paper stock certificate representing each share of stock you purchased.

For many years, the criminal act of counterfeiting securities has devastated our U.S. markets. The people responsible for perpetuating this crime have been allowed to steal billions of dollars from the pockets of everyday people like you and me. Some say, “why should I care, it doesn’t affect me. I don’t even know anything about the markets”. But these people only need some simple and basic financial education to understand how badly they are being hurt every single day by this crime. You can view a simple to understand animated look at this crime at http://www.businessjive.com/nss/darkside.html

How many of you have mutual funds, retirement plans, college funds set aside for your children and/or grandchildren, 401K’s and other investments? How many of you have to buy food, gas, clothes and utilities? Don't you find it harder and harder to live daily on the same pay as inflation on these basic necessities keeps increasing? This is what happens as a result of money being taken out of our stock markets through criminal acts like Naked Short Selling.

This crime has several names today, some call it Naked Short Selling or FTD (failure to deliver)…… but it is downright stealing through the act of counterfeiting securities! It is just like someone printing counterfeit money and buying stock with it. Shouldn't anyone caught counterfeiting money go directly to jail? These market manipulators are printing electronic counterfeit securities (fake electronic stock markers) and selling them to you and me for real cash! You don't own what you paid for! Would you buy a car or a house and never ask to use it or take physical possession of it? The only way you know you have received the real shares that you paid for is to take physical possession of your investments by ordering paper stock certificates for 100% of your holdings.

So, now that you know about this crime, there should be an obvious question that would come to your mind. Some people will stick their head back in the sand and not think twice about it. But some, those like you and me that want to make a difference will ask, “What can I do to help”?

For those that ask, the answer is very simple. You have to make noise and be heard! Start asking your state leaders in the Congress, the House of Representatives and the Senate by calling them, writing letters and emails to them. Also start corresponding with editors of business columns, editorials and shows at your local newspaper, radio and TV stations. It doesn’t take much of your time to make a big difference. When enough noise is being made, our Senators and Members of Congress will have to start taking action. It will actually “benefit” them to take action. Yes, it’s a crying shame that it has to benefit someone before they will do what is right, but that's the way it is in politics.

What will make the surest, fastest and most notable difference? If you are an investor or the owner of any company’s stock, demand to take physical possession of paper certificates for the stocks you hold. Why is this important? Take a few minutes and watch the animated presentation linked above and you will understand why you must take this action. Chances are very good that a portion of the stocks that your broker shows you owning in your account are not real, they are only a counterfeit electronic marker for the shares you paid for, but do not own. If you want to own the shares you paid for, you simply need to request to take physical control of those shares in paper certificate form. It’s that simple.

As people are taking physical control of their holdings by requesting paper stock certificates, the real shares available in the market will begin to dry up and you may not be able for you to obtain a stock certificate for the shares you paid for. If and when this happens to you, then it will be necessary for you to start complaining to your state Attorney Generals office, State Securities office and to the SEC, NASD and your State Representatives in Government to demand that you given the physical certificate to the stocks you paid your broker for.

At www.AmericaNeedsToKnow.com, we are providing the resources to sites around the country that have the direct links and information you will need to contact all the people and agencies listed above. The best way to help you to help America is to provide free access to the tools necessary to complete this simple task.

Rodney Young made one last statement before he left for the day. He asked, "When are you going to start doing your job"?

Stand up America and take your country back!

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