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The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous

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Posted by:   bobo 2/15/2006 2:11 PM

 

I was told a story today, of a pretty well established journalist whose credentials are above reproach.

This is a guy who has been in the game for 25 years, and has covered wars, and every type of ugly event that the past few decades have been able to serve up.

This journalist has been doing some digging into the naked short selling issue, in what started off as a highly skeptical treatment, and over time, as developed into a real expose. He is based in New York, and is known and revered by many there – “the real thing,” in a world where there are many pretenders to the throne.

This guy has been asking questions about a network of hedge funds that seem to have an uncanny sway on the market. We’ll just leave it at that. Some are well known, some are relatively obscure, some define the genre, some wield deci-billion dollar clout.

This gentleman went to his local watering hole, as was his habit, to slake his thirst, wash off some of the road dust, grab a bite. It had been a long day, and he was disturbed by the pattern he was seeing develop as he did more research into his latest interest. He had a book under his arm that had one of the hedge fund fellows in it, discussed by the author in some length, which was his evening’s light reading.

When he sat down at his usual spot at the bar, and ordered his drink and his sandwich, three men in Armani suits, slicked back hair, Ferragamo shoes, came in and sat down alongside him, and initiated a conversation. This is unusual in the sense that his neighborhood is not at all upscale, and the bar in question is, shall we say, humble in its appointments. The fellow next to him pointed to the book and said something to the effect of, “I know one of the guys they talk about in that book – what a prick, he’s a real SOB, etc. Has so much money and power, he probably has people killed.” The conversation continued about how this gentleman had worked with, or done some work for, the hedge fund guy in question – that was the story, anyway.

Then the trip down the rabbit hole started. The fellow at the bar told our journalist friend about a story involving the hedge fund guy’s power, ruthlessness, and vicious temper. In this story, the hedge fund guy and his wife had been at an upscale NY department store, and the wife had gone in to try on some dresses in a changing area. Apparently there was a man in one of the adjacent stalls, who peeked over and was caught in some lewd situation, watching the wife undress – presumably caught by the wife, who was horrified.

Anyway, the powerful guy was furious, and had one of his entourage find out who the peeper was (how is unclear), and then, had him killed.

That was the story. It was probably a fiction - the point was to let the journalist know that there are dangerous, powerful guys out there who could "do anything," not to tell an accurate story - their point was clearly let this journalist know that bad things can happen to people that cross the gentleman in question.

 There was more banter between the three men about what a crazy town it is, and how dangerous some of the psychos out there were, how one minute you were here, the next you were gone.

At this point the three gentlemen had enjoyed enough of the simple establishment’s charms, and stood up, putting on their overcoats. Our journalist friend asked the fellow who had worked for the hedge fund guy what his name was.

The man replied, “Just call me John - John from Saks on 5th Avenue.”

And the three men left.

I am not making this up.

This journalist is not a gentleman who is given over to an active imagination, nor flights of fancy, nor who scares easily. He isn’t stupid. He has made a career out of being observant, accurate, and correct. The message was very clear, he said, which seemed to him like something out of a movie. He’s covered mob stories, and every kind of corruption and larceny, drug wars, white slavery, you name it, and he said he has never had anything even remotely like the bar incident happen to him before.

He put it in writing, and has it with his attorney, and a few other folks, just in case, along with all the case information he has accumulated.

Just as I have my CV and data and such with several attorneys and trusted friends, just in case.

Because for all the assurances by journalists whose brushes with danger involve hangovers or hangnails, there is a faction of the world that apparently doesn’t play by the king’s rules, and those folks are apparently alive and well and affiliated with some of the truly large money on Wall Street. Go figure. I’ll remind the next flippant reporter or author who glibly says that any sense of danger is all in my head, that if they were me, they would be betting their kids’ lives on it – and I’d ask them how comfortable they would feel making that bet with their kids. Talk is cheap, and the name of the man in the bar is known to every one of these fellows – and he doesn’t tell tall tales, or make things up.

It is an odd world. This is a true story. Some folks are getting very agitated. And they are apparently getting sloppy, or so worried that they are contemplating crossing important lines. And the data is all now in the record, safe, where the outcome would be the same regardless of what action was taken – pretty good insurance, some might think. But one never can be completely sure.

So there is the thought for the day, and an insight into the life of a journalist who is really digging around and stirring up dust. I happen to know there are others, but this is the only story like this I have ever heard.

And Easter is on its way. Just another day in the life of the bunny.

Here is an email he sent when asked to document the outline of the story:

"Friday night, I finish work late and stop in at a nearby dive bar to have a beer, finish a book I've been reading. Three well-dressed guys, Armani-like clothes, lots of hair gel, walk in and sit next to me. "What are you reading?" says one of them. A book about Wall Street, I say. Oh yeah, says Armani, anything about XXXXXXXXXXXXX in there? I say, yeah, he's mentioned. Armani laughs and says he used to work for the guy, and "he's a real prick, thinks he's got so much money he can do anything he wants; hell, he's probably killed people for all I know." Then he tells a bizarre and totally convoluted story about how some guy from Saks 5th Avenue murdered a customer because the customer went into the ladies changing room and tried to watch the guy's wife get undressed and "you know, the guy's pervert, there some things you don't do, some things you keep your nose out of, I would have killed the guy too."

Then they say they have to go. I ask for his name, he says it’s John.

John who?, I ask.

John from Saks, he says, give me a call, Saks on 5th Ave.

And they're out the door."

 

 

Copyright ©2006 Bob O'Brien
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Comments (20)
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By Anonymous Coward on 2/15/2006 3:08 PM
That's scary.

The guy in the book, would we know who he is?
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By astonmartin on 2/15/2006 3:09 PM
could it be the badian brothers? i hear one is expert in filipino knife-fighting arts. they also appear to own an island (look it up Badian island).
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By rtway1 on 2/15/2006 3:10 PM
Seems to me that some of these bashers ought to re-think their $20 post. When the poo-poo hits the fan, one would have to think if it was worth all that typing and name calling while they are being investigated. The feds will spend any amount they want to get their job done, just like the I.R.S. When the poo-poo hits the fan the coward factor sets in also, as they throw their buddies under the bus to save their own ass. This is getting good. This will be a great book, be careful my friend.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By bobo on 2/15/2006 3:10 PM
You would know instantly.

I won't speculate as to his identity.

The point is that some very bad people appear prepared to do some very bad things, or at least are engaging in the sort of things you only hear about in mob movies.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By An mp3 or a jpg is worth a thousand words.... on 2/15/2006 3:27 PM
Net time...Get a photo from a camera phone....or a video from a treo or something. Most phones can do movies now a days. imho
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By astonmartin on 2/15/2006 3:40 PM
Badians, BAWAG, Refco: all that Austrian stuff must emanate from them. you really think they left the street ? Their billions could be behind any number of funds employing strategic delivery failures. Plus they stole my car. Has anyone looked into that? Badian Island, huh, wonder what goes on there? Maybe we should try to hold that conference there but betcha they only sell one-way tickets.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By rtway1 on 2/15/2006 3:36 PM
I don,t beleive this idiot made this statement about taking a picture. Should he have asked him what his best side was before taking his picture. It is also real hard to take the phone out of your ass after you take this little cinema of a perfect world, with perfect conditions. If someone were talking about doing someone in, you look for exit sign, not phone. I-Pods are hard to take out of your ass also.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By Mississipibluffs on 2/15/2006 7:42 PM
Yeah, I know it's spelled wrong.

Just for the record, and for the sake of history:

Remember Karen Silkwood.

Remember Danny Casolaro.

A.L.L..T.H.A.T..M.O.N.E.Y

And so many powerful hands in the pot.

Maybe it's time to switch to PGP for your internal conversations.

Quote from Eric Hoffer --

"It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable."

Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By faggetaboutit on 2/15/2006 7:43 PM
Mr Bunny is lucky he recieved a visit. Most dont recieve that courtesy.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By cyberjunkie on 2/15/2006 7:44 PM
Bob, did these men scare this journalist enough to where he is dropping his investigation and possible expose on the naked short scandel or does this make him want to pursue it further? I hope he is not swayed.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By sean b on 2/15/2006 7:44 PM
Google "suicided" and find references to other journalists, such as Gary Webb who discovered CIA / cocaine trafficing, then killed himself by shooting himself in the head. Twice.

Or Danny Cassalaro who was investigating software that could access FBI databases and bank back offices.

There are dozens of examples of people who have been "suicided".

If I were the bunny, I would try not to personify the battle. I think of the mob in Italy who kept killing judges until the crowd rose up, daring them to kill everyone.

The mob realized they were no match for the crowd.

The Faulking Truth is that we have reached a tipping point, a critical mass where the investor crowd is gaining control over this issue and where it is becoming irrelevant whether or not the mainstream media censors the story.



Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By bobo on 2/15/2006 7:48 PM
I am hopeful that he did not drop the story. Then again, I would understand if he did. I suspect we will know very soon.

My departure from the scene would accomplish nothing at this point. The momentum is such that whatever will be, will be.

Still, it is a scary world at times. This is one of those times.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By Vinnie the Butcher on 2/15/2006 7:52 PM
Eh Bunny boy. Your buddy so lucky. Normally we don't give no second chances. Boss musta figured we could scare im off. Tell Gary we gets 20% off the top of 'is new book, capice? Whata plan-youse and Gary!
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By blackrhino on 2/15/2006 10:29 PM
Finally someone mentioning the dark prince or sith lord Badian by name. There he is lurking in byrnes slideshow, seeping out of Refcos sordid books. The Austrian nexus and more than that. Some of us have truly investigated the Badian clan. One thing we discovered is that Badian means "star anise" in a number of languages. Innocuous right? Till you learn that star anise or Badian is the key ingredient in Tamiflu (go to wikipedia and look up star anise etc) and the supposed short supply of Badian is the reason for the shortage of Tamiflu,the only known effective treatment of bird flu. Rumor is that the Badian clan cornered the Badian market a while back (truly sith like morbid anticipation) and are holding the world hostage. Deduction is that they are behind a number of these bird flu pump and dump stock scams savaging investors currently. The Feds need to get to Badian Island immediately where they are likely hording Badian. Terrorist threat? You dont even know how deep it all runs .... Its time people got the courage to mention Badian by name.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By bobo on 2/15/2006 10:30 PM
Very funny stuff.

The guy in the book is a household Wall Street name. Even Weiss would recognize it.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By Anonymous Coward on 2/16/2006 1:53 AM
Badian, shmadian. Ivan the Terrible.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By blackrhino on 2/16/2006 9:14 AM
I get the reference to Saks 5th Ave and SAC Capital the domain of the legendary Stevie Cohen. I bet thats the insinuation here. The most feared hedge fund operator whose secretive maverick tactics pound the market and competitors. But, come on,he's a fall guy, an all too public face. It is who is behind Steve Cohen that should interest you. The Badians are cornering the Badian market and you are worried about little stevie cohen arbing a few stocks? Their billions will become trillions once the bird flu epidemic becomes pandemic and they are already orchestrating these bird flu pumps and dumps like only a true insider could, like only a Marc Rich type but bigger could. Take a look at their connections with Viragen Track down the Badians personal shopper at Saks and get the true scoop.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By x. trapnell on 2/16/2006 9:22 AM
Spying the wife "near-naked" in a "changing room". Nicely sinister trope for FTD research!
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By bobo on 2/16/2006 10:53 AM
The story told by the three guys is obviously false, and was intended to serve as a warning, not as a fact finding mission.

Still, and I don't have the means to do it, does anyone have the ability to see if any Saks employees died untimely deaths, following an incident with a Wall Street household name?

A long shot, and likely a dead end. I can't believe that the story was anything but an artifice to pass the message to the journalist: These guys are dangerous, and you could disappear if you ask too many of the wrong questions.

Whether they are in fact dangerous is unknown. But it does raise a host of interesting questions.
Re: The Threat of Real Harm, or Why The Bunny Has Remained Anonymous By One Patch on 8/5/2006 9:24 AM
Couldn't be Stevie, his wife is too ugly to risk a sprained ankle for.

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