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The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy

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Posted by:   bobo 4/23/2007 2:57 AM

The ever-ranting and invariably inaccurate 'lilGW has birthed yet another pearl for connoisseurs of true drivel and pap. The flawed reasoning and hyperbolic stupidity can be read here, and was sent to me by one of the few still reading Raging Bull, presumably out of boredom, or having lost a bet.

Apparently one of the 'lilGW tag team of sock puppets posted his article in its entirety, requiring that I waste about 45 seconds debunking it. So here it goes:

'lilGW cites a study published at the Social Science Research Network site, and claims that its purported "findings" (that delivery failures in IPOs aren't necessarily correlated to marked short sales) is some sort of revelation. He helpfully doesn't link the actual document, thus what it concludes is left to....'lilGW. To read the SEC-generated document one has to be an SSRN subscriber, which I'm not. But let's take it at face value, and assume that the study has more intellectual honesty and logical rigor than the SEC's pronouncements that "Reg SHO is working" or its investigation into the Gary Aguirre cover-up. How this relates to Patrick Byrne's press release memorializing his company's 500th day on the Reg SHO list is unknown, however he makes much that it might, or should, or must, sort of......er.......you know. Because.

Most notable among the badly-reasoned and poorly-crafted sentences is our hero's inability to recognize that when a share of stock isn't delivered, it doesn't really matter what you called it when you lied and represented a genuine, available share available for delivery - doesn't matter whether you lied and said it was a short sale with a genuinely borrowed share to be delivered, or lied and claimed it was a long sale with a share to be delivered. It's sort of immaterial what it was called when you lied, just as it is immaterial whether you claim that 80% of bank robberies aren't committed by "bank robbers." What matters is that no share was delivered. Or that a bank was robbed.

To borrow from the small one's prose, "Uncorrelated" means "they ain't got nothing to do with each other." Correct. How you lied when you lied is uncorrelated with whether the buyer received what he paid you for or not. In a delivery failure, he didn't. Your lying terminology is uncorrelated to anyone's confusion over whether their product was delivered (as you committed to doing when you performed the trade). Just as the number of sales transactions are uncorrelated with the number of shares issued and authorized by the company, and the price is uncorrelated to supply and demand of those limited genuine shares. Just as Congress' mandate to link payment and delivery is uncorrelated with how the market's larcenous participants prefer to work.

Astoundingly, he claims that investors aren't affected when the seller doesn't deliver what the investor paid for. That's all hand waving to 'lilGW. Tut tut, you don't actually have to get the car you just bought. As long as the car dealer tells you that you have a nice new car, it's the same as driving one. 'lilGW ignores that FTDs lack any of the rights and entitlements of genuine shares, rights and entitlements that create the value that the investor paid for in the first place. Details, details. Not one to waste one's time on that sort of thing, is our icon.

Apparently, getting the product one pays for is all part of the "highly technical" workings of the market that evade his powers of explanation and reasoning. See, you pay your money, but the seller refuses to deliver the shares, preferring to pocket your money and flip you the bird while he runs the price of the stock down, and that is really super-duper technical.

Every other industry it is called fraud. Simple fraud. I paid my money, and the scam artist fraudster never had the product to begin with, and cheated me out of my money by fraudulently representing for sale something that didn't exist in his possession - which of course he couldn't deliver, as he never had it to begin with.

But 'lilGW feels that is highly technical. Obviously far too technical for us to grasp. It couldn't be that simple. Who are you going to believe, 'lilGW, or your lying eyes?

See, you pay your hard dollars. But then the Frixxmagalorphmatron at the far end of the Gazangolator stutters, and Bathmospheric Ragalretrenuators lock into place, stabilizing the Salancrophic Hyperborotron Field....and you are out your money, and Wall Street and a bunch of hedge funds make record profits.

Very very technical.

Don't even try to understand it. Your brain will fry if you get close to the manual experts like 'lilGW consult for their wisdom, much less try to simplify it to, "I want to get what I paid for when the rules and law say I should." That's for wusses and cretins.

Because it isn't that simple. Interfenestrated Saliostracophyloms are dis-intermediating the Barcolimited Macrogeliospheres that limit the entire market mechanism's Kranderhoph-algorithms, and occasionally their Silancronism-centricity causes Greolaptic oligarchatrism, and that's really why you don't get what you paid for.

Simple ideas like bad, and good, and legal, and illegal, are silly. And so are we for expecting delivery. That's the message.

"lilGW celebrates that "SEC Economists" posted a study he claims is significant, and which he screechingly touts erroneously as a debunking of naked short selling critics. What it isn't is a debunking of anything. It doesn't do what he claims it does, just as he fails to deliver what he claims he does. Which is any semblance of coherence, or linear reasoning.

The contentions of the piece, that delivery failures are unrelated to the level of short selling in IPOs, ignores the obvious question - "How is the buyer, who fails to receive the shares they paid for, any better for this "non-short" related delivery failure than "short" delivery failure? Or how about the other obvious question: "What amount of delivery failure is erroneously marked short sales disguised as long sales, that then FTD? And more pressingly, how is whether they are called long or short or naked a meaningful distinction when the same result - a delivery failure where the buyer doesn't receive the shares he paid for- is the inevitable conclusion? Simply put, who cares? If I embezzle billions, but call it clerical errors, does that make the billions any less gone?"

I guess someone should read Cox the study, as he apparently agrees that the "anti-naked short crackpots" have a meaningful beef.

One does have to wonder whether 'lil-GW is paid to mangle logic with as much effort, if little dexterity, that he displays. I mean, why else would he ignore the SIA's own spreadsheet showing $82 billion of delivery and receipt failures just in NYSE member firms, as of the last day of Q4, 2006? Why ignore all the FOIA data, for years now? Why else would he ignore that the vast, vast majority of Reg SHO problem stocks aren't IPOs at all? Why would he trumpet as a triumph the failure to deliver shares in IPOs as a pervasive practice? Is he really such a dimwit that he doesn't understand that falsely offering shares for sale, taking investor money, and then failing to deliver the shares, is bad, regardless how the sale is marked - long or short?

I mean, how hard is that to grasp?

It's like he's slipped through some sort of logical wormhole into a time and place where all the rules of logic are suspended...likely also a world where his belief that anyone is reading his screeds is valid.

Sweetie.

Please.

Try this on one more time: The 1934 Act requires one to deliver the shares one sells, regardless of how they are marked, in the same period - three business days. When one doesn't do that, one is engaging in misbehavior. If one is doing so in order to manipulate or depress the price of the security one is doing it to, it doesn't matter what one calls that - genocide and murder can be called ethnic cleansing all one wants, but most still understand what they are dealing with. Not, apparently, our own bumbling 'lilGW. If one fails to deliver but denies one is doing so as part of a short sale, apparently that is good. War is peace. Got it.

It's passed from tragedy to farce. Obligatory, illogical ranting from paranoid delusional sock-puppeteers is now what passes for the industry's self-defense.

And we are all supposed to say, "hmm, I see, I paid for shares and didn't get them, but that's good....not bad....uh, you know, because some hack insists it is...."

Wow.

I guess he left Bloomberg, and academics, and scholars, and market pundits, and brokers, and securities attorneys, off his list of pro-naked short selling audience prospects. Too bad. They probably could have used a good chuckle.

What's next - an unofficial SEC-connected study showing that Gary Aguirre is irrational, or that Grassley and Specter were misguided when stating that the Commission is either incompetent or corrupt, and engaging in a cover-up? Maybe 'lilGW can set that one to music, a la "The Producers," and get a tent and take it on the road?

Yikes.

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Comments (28)
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By Browntrout on 4/23/2007 7:56 PM
Wuss is just a paid whore that can't argue with logic so he thinks arguing with bravado wins. Kind of how our co-opted media operate. Gary lives on Fantasy Island. Da plane, da plane boss. No facts just fiction and a lot of noise. Gary is so twisted that I doubt any shrink could help him straighten out his crosswired lobes. I really think he could be a danger to society and to himself. This guy is just a ticking timebomb. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.......
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By Boy on 4/23/2007 7:57 PM
That pretty much sums it up. Nice job Bobo. This Gary guy sounds like a real Benedict Arnold. What publication does he work for? They should fire him immediately.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By torrevista2 on 5/14/2007 3:03 PM
Ya know, sitting in my little corner of the new Orwellian world, having a well earned cocktail, it ocurred to me that I had been seeing quite a few posts on Yahoo of the same ilk. My favorite is this one. "Insider selling is Good".Found on the CROX board.
Now this looks like, feels like and smells like a crock of schitt to me. Perhaps it is just Gorgonzola but, somehow I doubt that. Think I'll have an extra cocktail tonight to celebrate the few sane souls kicking around the planet.
Bottoms up,
Tor.
p.s. I am referring to massive amounts here not Allisons 15,000 which might get her a very nice used vehicle. Or possibly a deposit on a dump in California.
Special thanks to Kirby for his excellent narrative regarding the Schitt family tree.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By torrevista2 on 5/14/2007 3:03 PM
Ya know, sitting in my little corner of the new Orwellian world, having a well earned cocktail, it ocurred to me that I had been seeing quite a few posts on Yahoo of the same ilk. My favorite is this one. "Insider selling is Good".Found on the CROX board.
Now this looks like, feels like and smells like a crock of schitt to me. Perhaps it is just Gorgonzola but, somehow I doubt that. Think I'll have an extra cocktail tonight to celebrate the few sane souls kicking around the planet.
Bottoms up,
Tor.
p.s. I am referring to massive amounts here not Allisons 15,000 which might get her a very nice used vehicle. Or possibly a deposit on a dump in California.
Special thanks to Kirby for his excellent narrative regarding the Schitt family tree.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By torrevista2 on 5/14/2007 3:09 PM
Another member of the illustrious Schitt family?
Tor.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By Tony on 4/23/2007 7:58 PM
Legal Definition of Counterfeit: It refers to the copying, duplicating, deceiving and fraud. Normally it’s the copying/faking of currency notes and coins, important documents or bond and presenting it as real and genuine in order to commit fraud.

Licensed-brokers are selling counterfeit shares. Let's keep it simple for the jury trials.

http://www.legal-explanations.com/definitions/counterfeit.htm

Contact the Inspector General of the Treasury Department to report counterfeiting:

Hotline@oig.treas.gov

I did! - Tony

http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=3532&mn=7026&pt=msg&mid=1963623
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By bobo on 4/23/2007 8:03 PM
Tony: Actually, what they are technically doing is issuing and trading in unregistered securities. A felony per the 1933 Act.

They are also representing these different, non-genuine securities as the genuine article. That's the fraud part.

Whether that is technically counterfeiting is up to a judge and jury. But what I absolutely know is that Section 2 of the 33 Act has a list of definitions, and if you read the definition of a security, and of an issuer, you will find that the brokers issuing the things that they are trading that aren't genuine shares, are in fact meeting all the tests of issuing, and of issuing "securities". That they aren't accurately representing these different than the genuine article securities as different is the fraud aspect, but there is no question that those securities aren't the ones issued by the company, nor are they registered. Thus, trafficking and issuing unregistered, non-exempt securities.

Nobody has punched a hole in that one.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By bbhindyou on 4/24/2007 11:54 AM
The NCAN's letter to the sec was a through and accurate accuonting of the problem and what needs to be fixed.
I love the way some smart boy has found a way to make their failure pay.
I personally hope they twist the knife when they hit them with it.I can't wait to see the first divident bleed out happen to a short manipulator.
Happy happy joy joy happy happy joy.
What a day I can't wait.
How do they get out of this one?
And to think everbody is watching american idol!
This is like the three stoges painting themselfs into a corner.
What ARE they going to do?


P.S. the computer problem when I couldn't open the letter or post at times earlier was mine.I lost the letter I was attempting to post to the sec site in the process however.These questions were the start and the end of the piece.
How did the liabilitys exeed the assets ?
Where has the value gone?
Where did the assets go?
I applied them to the auto industry and then to the market.
Pretty grim.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By gregcable2002 on 4/24/2007 11:56 AM
The cockroaches are all stirred up over on the OSTK board today,this article is great,keep up the great work Bobo.The theives got me tossed from yahoo yesterday,I wonder who controls yahoo?
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By Tony on 4/24/2007 11:55 AM
Thanks, Bobo. I'm not getting a response from the SEC so I'm trying the Treasury and Justice Departments. Keep filing complaints. Government employees hate complaints. Complaints get assigend numbers and become official records that require someone to act on. OTOH, Maybe a slick lawyer like John Edwards will decide to take on the securities industry if he doesn't win the primary. ;-) -Tony
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By davidn on 4/24/2007 11:58 AM
I've been trying to use language more precisely. Since there are so many levels, we should use different phrases for different crimes.

NAKED SHORT SALE: An investor knowingly sells a share without borrowing it. For example, he may tell his broker that he is making a long sale and will deliver the certificate within three days.

FAILURE TO DELIVER: This is a different animal. For example, a shareholder may really own the shares and sell them long, but the brokerage may still fail to deliver them as they need them for inventory to lend out to someone else who is borrowing to do a legitimate short. Another scenario is a brokerage charges a fee to the short for a legitimate short, but doesn't bother having the shares. That's what the hedge fund lawsuit is about. Another one is they take the buyers' money, but don't bother buying anything. They print the trade and the sucker is none the wiser.

FRACTIONAL RESERVE CUSTODIAL SERVICES: We all trust our brokerage to arrange to keep our shares safe somewhere. They put nice little words on our brokerage statement such as "segregated" or "safekeeping" that really don't mean much.

At each of the levels of the brokerage, clearing brokerage, prime brokerage, depository or foreign depository, they can choose to own less shares than they are contracted to own.

The way they weasel this is through netting, repurchase agreements and straight fraud. No one double checks them. No one audits to make sure they own what they are supposed to own.

As long as they put up value, where a share of IBM and a share of pinksheetcrapco are treated as being equivalent, no one seems to care if they have enough shares on deposit.

_________

Out of the three crimes, I think the third one is the most serious and the one we should concentrate on. It has nothing to do with shorting. It means there is some custodian who is lying to the real owner of the shares, who they have a contractual relationship with.

To me, this is fraud on the highest level.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By The SEC on 4/24/2007 11:58 AM
It's funny that the guy that claims naked shorting doesn't exist actually seeks authority from a report that acknowledges the existence of naked shorting. Real funny.

Also, why would the underwriters adding of price support cause fails to deliver? Is it just me, or does that not make any sense?

A rose by any other name.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By CategoryV on 4/24/2007 11:57 AM
I believe this must be the document you are referring to. As linked by Seth Jaysen on the TMF ostk board. Incidentally he issued forth a challenge to "refute the conclusion" I did not need to log in to access it.

(http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=981242)
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By b8nw84u on 4/24/2007 10:33 AM
Only thing I can conclude is lilgw's leash is getting tighter these days. Seems his handlers have applied a new shock collar to this mutt which renders even more incomprehensible dog speak. Memo to liggw: You just got slapped!! (again) BTW bobo, you left me in tears!! Priceless. Thanks.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By bobo on 4/24/2007 12:13 PM
Category V What the SEC does is refer to naked short sales by the underwriting brokers as overallocated, rather than naked. It is a rhetorical dishonesty. Then they theorize that the fails MIGHT be due to all these overallocated shares being sold before the underwriters can deliver. Might, as they dont actually know. As in, they make up a guess, and posit it as fact. So they call it something different, and then theorize that FTDs might be due to all this.
Be that as it may, here are some interesting thoughts.

The SEC lied when it said Reg SHO is working. It lied about Aguirre. It lied about a lot of things. How many lies do we have to show it advancing before its latest fine work is questioned?

I presume that the conclusion Seth is inviting folks to refute is that FTDs aren´t connected to short sales. Which merely proves that a lot of miscreants failing don´t bother marking their sales of imaginary, nonexistent shares as short sales. Wow. Big surprise. Again, if the end result is an FTD, who cares what the liar who failed chose to call it on the front end? Why is that significant? And what does it have to do with companies like OSTK? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

When you get done accessing that paper with no problem and no sign in, explain how to do it.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By Wake lil'G Z! Wake up! on 4/25/2007 4:42 PM
Subject: File No. S7-12-06
From: Gilbert M ErskineApril 23, 2007

As of 04/23/07, there have been 857 comment letters on Amendments to RegSHO since the first one on 07/16/06.
A 100% audit of these letters show---
Individuals opposed to amending RegSHO 9
Organizations opposed to amending RegSHO 14
Letters not relevant to RegSHO 7
Individuals organizations in favor
of amending RegSHO 827 (96.5%)
As more and more investors have become aware of the enormity of the problem of abusive naked short selling, the bulk of letters favoring amendment cite---
1 Elimination of the grandfather clause
2 Elimination of the option market maker exception
3 Concern over the breakdown in enforcing
law and policy at the SEC
4 Other detail concerns relating to transparency
and appropriate disclosure of information
The NCANS letter of 09/30/06 has (adjusted) 1,049 signers.
Many individual's on other dates have written more than one letter. A conservative estimate of individuals organizations favoring amending totals 1,800. This dwarfs the 23 individuals and organizations opposed to amending.
A number of individual's letters detail specific instances of the devastating loss of investment capital when, as shareholders, their companies have been targeted for rampant abusive naked short selling practices.
The SEC's INVESTOR'S ADVOCATE formally states, "This mission of the SEC is to protect investors...As more investors turn to the stock market to secure their future, our protection mission is more than compelling than ever."
The question that everyone has now---
Why is the SEC so slow, so blind, so ineffective, in
dealing with such a major problem in the American capital markets?
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By InTheKnow on 4/25/2007 4:43 PM
Can someone please put up the Bloomberg Phantom Share report back on youtube.com. It was taken down and people are directed after seeing this to write a comment letter against Reg SHO at the SEC proposal comments.
In Canada... By Get this!!! on 4/25/2007 4:44 PM
Right now in Canada, new rules are quickly becoming policy. The policy is guenuine certificates can not be placed back into the system. The reason? There is fraud in the marketplace!!! LMAO. Only the OTCBB and Pinks now, but just wait.

This is changing the supply and demand by keeping real shares out of the system and blocking investors any chance of keeping the supply and demand in check.

This is much grander than many are aware of. Please watch Arron Russo's film.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By Patchie on 4/25/2007 4:41 PM
The SEC uses a study (Arrgawal (2000)) as a foundation to their conclusions. Now take a look at what Arrgawal states right up front in her study.



Aftermarket activities are price-influencing activities that affect both issuers and investors. We discuss and empirically analyze the use of the following three forms of aftermarket activities:



1. Underwriters post a stabilizing bid to purchase shares at a price not exceeding the offer price if the distribution of shares is not complete. To the degree that these shares must be resold if a negatively sloped demand curve is assumed, this postpones a price drop. We refer to this direct intervention as “pure” stabilization.



2. Underwriters initially sell shares in excess of the original amount offered, thereby taking a short position prior to the offering. This short position can be covered by exercising the overallotment option and/or by short covering in the aftermarket. Almost all IPOs have an overallotment option whereby the underwriter can sell additional shares up to 15 percent of the offer size, exercisable for 30 calendar days after the offering. In offerings where weak demand is anticipated, underwriters frequently take a naked short position by allocating more than 115 percent of the stated size of the offering. We refer to this form of price support as aftermarket short covering.



3. Underwriters may penalize members of the selling group whose customers quickly “f lip” shares in the aftermarket by taking away their selling concession. This is referred to as a penalty bid.





For some reason the SEC OEA decided that these overallotments were not short sales and were not naked short sales when in fact that is EXACTLY what they were. The premise here was to discredit the naked short and short in these discussions. The reason they do price support only up to the offering price is because any price support above the offer price would put their naked short at a loss.



The Arggawal study:



http://faculty.msb.edu/aggarwal/jfstab.pdf


Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By oldfeller on 4/25/2007 4:45 PM
I certainly appreciated Alan Greenspan`s statement today that us baby boomers should take more responsibility to prepare for our retirement. He says our government will find it difficult to keep the financial promises it has been making to us for the last few decades. Thanks for letting us know that Alan. While we are having a polite conversation like this may we ask why you once said money that was not backed by metal was worthless but then decided fiat dollars were good enough for us? Ayn Rand would probably frown a little if she was around.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By rtway on 4/25/2007 4:45 PM
If Seth were ever confronted with a conspiracy charge of real meaning that could carry jail and fines he would run like a sissy and jump on his bicycle and ride off to another job that involves little work but great rewards for being a stooge and puppet. He and GW are made of the same mold that chlorine can not clean. Seth, I would pay admission to see you in a jump suit.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By long_ostk on 4/25/2007 4:48 PM
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Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By United States of Enron on 4/25/2007 4:49 PM
lilGW is an example of what is wrong with our schools today. I was a teacher for a short while some 30 years ago and lilGW's writings are reminicient of some of the papers I would see. It doesen't have to make sense it just has to be three pages.
Maybe if they paid him more he might be able to produce something clearer and persuasive. Who is he working for the SEC, or is it the DTCC?

This morning I saw a qoute on MTV of all places that stated the following;
never doubt that a small group of committed people can ever change the world. It is the only thing that ever has, indeed.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By Categoryv on 4/25/2007 5:02 PM
Whatever... I assumed the link would work for you, as it did for me. So if you would indeed like to question their latest fine work, then perhaps you can tell me how to send you a pdf without the rhetoric or the sarcasm?
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By bbhindyou on 4/25/2007 5:03 PM
Reviewing history can be so gory.
The market in particular seems that way .I was going over the market value patterns of the 1915-1935 market and I noticed a few repetitive patterns to the total market value regaining and passing its's previous low that was proclaimed as a recovery just before the bottom fell out.
I had seen the pattern before and when look back to the 1800's the same darn thing seems to be there ,but this time as if now that its history , the records seem to indicate the big players got out just before the crash.
In the year 2080 I'm sure by then it will be history [ who knows maybe by then their power will be such that they brag about it] and we will find out where and with who the money went both in the 1920's crash and now.

Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By bobo on 4/25/2007 6:45 PM
CategoyV: The link requires a subscription. As in a login. There is no way to make it not require one. Someone else sent me the study, so it's all good. Dave P has done a nice debunking of it. No point in belaboring the obvious flaws or agenda. It is pure horse poop. The authors engaged in rhetorical dishonesty to advance their agenda, as the above post clearly indicates.
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By GJW46 on 4/26/2007 7:04 AM
This may be of interest. The trading of an OTC security AMEP has met with some broker restrictions. Internet BUYS are now restricted such that one has to call the broker to place the trade. Internet SELLS are not restricted and can be executed normally. One would think that either the standard applies to both the buy and sell side or the SEC steps in and halts the trading. Is this legal? The brokers are citing "hacker problems" from Europe as the cause for the change. If the "locate" rules are being taken more seriously then protecting the short position will require a different tactic. Could this be the tactic?...throwing an impediment into the path of the buy side only. G
Re: The Ever Forgettable and Oft Ignored 'lilGW Hurls Forth Yet More Tortured Idiocy By InTheKnow on 4/27/2007 3:30 PM
GJW46

This buy restriction has been going on in Jag Media (JAGH) for years. The brokerage house I dealt with has had a restriction on buys of JAGH going back 3-4 years. The reason they gave was "they were trying to limited their liability."

Just last week my brother's broker informed him they would not execute any more buys in Jag Media (JAGH) and the excuse was that they were trying to protect his money! LMFAO... when does a brokerage house give two shits about what you buy or sell! And, to boot, he has a nice profit on his purchases of JAGH!

Merger Acomin' as they say on the RB Jagh board.

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