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Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead...

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Posted by:   bobo 3/26/2007 1:30 PM

It would be very funny if not completely true.

Those who lost fortunes over the last 7 months, while the SEC finally grudgingly acknowledged that Reg SHO wasn't working, will be glad to hear that the desperately and anxiously awaited action we've all been waiting for has been......

Delayed yet again.

Yes, instead of doing simple things like admitting that the Grandfather clause, which was unlawfully slipped into Reg SHO, and in violation of the SEC's own rules, never received a comment period (thus making it an illegitimately issued hall pass for those refusing to deliver what they sold, often for years)...and doing away with it, what instead has the commission done?

Re-opened the comment period for SHO.

Huh? WTF? Why? We already know that there is no basis in the SEC's charter to forgive persistent delivery failures. There is no basis in its mandate of investor protection to allow exemptions for market makers to create massive FTDs - none of which has the most remote basis in bona-fide market making. Failing for weeks, months or years is not bona-fide market making. Never was, and nobody with a working brain would buy it for a second. But apparently the SEC does, hook line and sinker.

We know that Reg SHO hides information rather than encouraging transparency, and badly damages investors and companies, for whom their stock is a fiction Wall Street bad guys have simply refused to deliver - after being paid for the product.

But now instead of an end to the grandfather clause, and a tightening, if not complete elimination, of the egregious options market maker exemption (wherein the options MMs are allowed to create naked short shares in literally un-checked amounts, in order for them to enjoy cost-free hedging in the derivatives market at the direct expense of equity securities investors) we get more stonewalling and requests for comments.

Where is it so hard to see that by allowing speculators in a different market - options - to create stock at will in the stock market (for the sole reason of providing free hedging for the options speculators), materially damaging stock investors as well as the companies affected, that it is BAD for everyone EXCEPT the options speculators? Where is the SEC allowed to favor the interests of options speculators, over the interests of investor protection? Point me to the code section. The enabling language that says, "If you are a company deriving financial benefit by speculating in options, you can hedge your for-profit trades by fabricating non-existent shares at no cost to you - and do so as early and often as you like. Screw investors buying those phantom shares, and those whose stock plummets due to the massive, unauthorized volume you just printed - it's all good. Knock yourself out."

Unbelievable. Really. I've never in my life even hinted at this level of gross and callous disregard for the rule of law as the norm, and yet for year after year after year, investor dollars are taken, nothing is delivered, and the best the SEC can do is "extend" the comment period. Because 8 years ago, naked short selling as we saw in  the crash of 1929 was so, er, unexpected and misunderstood - you know, the idea that you might have to deliver the stock you sold, instead of just refusing to do so, and giving the investor the middle finger, was such a quaint notion that the SEC was unable to figure out it could damage companies and investors. That was a tough one. 8 years later, and they still need comments. How about this one: Settle the trades, or go to jail. Did I leave anything out of the mix? Some nuance omitted?

I suppose all those rapists, whose easy pickings every weekend night looked to be in jeopardy from the passage of laws that make it against the law to take women against their will, can rest easy, while the motivations of the rapists are discussed as more info becomes available. "I just get so mad," "She was asking for it," "She was wearing that dress - how clear did it have to be?"

Yet more opportunity to study the motivations of the violent criminal predators is now at hand, while the raping continues unabated.

Folks, I am absolutely dumbfounded.

"I sold, and continue to sell, tens of millions of shares that don't exist, uh, you know, because of the bona-fide market making I'm engaged in that requires the creation of tens of millions of non-existent shares..."

"Well, you grandfathered them all, so why would I go pay money to deliver the shares, when you gave me the free pass for years?"

"When I was selling with unbridled levels of aggression, while my hedge fund clients were telling me to put the company out of business, and bury them, I thought that was bona-fide market making, not criminal stock manipulation. Oops. I heard it was a fun and lucrative game. Cramer said everyone should do it. Sorry. Really. My bad."

"We figured that since you violated the law and enacted grandfathering, that was our go-ahead to use it to keep violating the law and ripping off the last remaining dollars in the US retirement savings system. How about another 6 months to comment on it while we pick the bones?"

"Gotta go create another million shares of OSTK while you have the rubes write letters. Too GD funny. Really very amusing. Ha ha ha ha."

And so on.

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Comments (48)
Re: Remember How The SEC Has Stalled Any Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? By tommytoyz on 3/26/2007 3:15 PM
This is probably an attempt to include all the comments as reasons for a final new formal rule that were received AFTER the official comment period ended.

But these can not be used.

The courts have ruled in the past that federal agencies may not use data or comment letters received after official comment periods have ended in justifying any formal rule making.

So now expect to see a flurry of industry comment letters regurgitating the same they already have, to make their comment and data "official" and usable by the SEC in justifying their final rule - what ever that turns out to be.

The reason given for the extension is pure Bull. They just want to officially include industry letters. That is all this is.

But it signal to me that they're concerned about being closely watched. For them, it won't do any good. That smoke screen about the NASD data doesn't even try to explain how investors in the securities they do mentioned are planned on being protected from the fails. It's actually an admission of guilt.

So the best they can do is try and minimize the problem. However, since blood is splattered all over the place - it can not be denied by the SEC that investors are harmed and securities do suffer long term fails. So they try and minimize the crime instead. But in by trying to minimize the crime, they still have to concede that a crime indeed took place.

And the idea of crime minimization is put forward with data provided by the perpetrators themselves. hahaha

The SEC already has a trunk full of data being reported to them every single day on this. Like I said, it's Bull but they will achieve their goal of getting the industry data and comments in this way to justify their final rule. But that's all this will achieve.

It also signals to me that the final rule will not be what we are asking for and that the SEC will continue to give exemptions and permit FTDs to either remain and/or continue to some degree.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By InTheKnow on 3/26/2007 4:09 PM
Since the SEC will not protect the investor from the crooks and theives then it is time that we demand that the states do what is right and protect us once and for all!

All our votes count! SETTLE THE TRADES OR SETTLE IN JAIL!
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By n-tres-ted on 3/27/2007 9:21 AM
NYT: Lying to a Banker is a felony: http://snipurl.com/1dw3w

But a banker lying to American investors to the tune of millions of shares every day is a non-event; in fact, is an event deserving support and assistance from public agencies, namely the SEC and U. S. Attorney.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Bobo on 3/27/2007 9:39 AM
Paladin: It is difficult to believe that anyone holding himself out as a stock market pundit could be so oblivious to the numbers cited in the Bloomberg video - thousand percent increases in the FTD level in a company like OSTK. His facile, "I don't see how it is possible that all those people are driving over 55 on the freeway - why, that's illegal!" take is plain silly, as the numbers clearly show they are.

And his pretended ignorance as to how FTDs are created is also rather lowbrow. Yes, one can create an FTD innocently - dog ate the cert, for instance. But what Bloomberg is talking about is many hundreds of millions of FTDs, existent for months or years. And it cites examples - Refco - where the prime broker was acting malevolently in concert with the miscreants to destroy a company. That wasn't dogs eating certs. It was bad guys working with other bad guys to destroy companies and shareholder value. To dismiss it as not a big deal because you don't think about it much is akin to saying cancer isn't a big deal because you don't have it at present - that you know of. It is a big deal. The SIA spreadsheet shows $63 billion as of the last day of Q2, 2006. If that isn't big, what is?

I'm not going to waste my time on this chap. Sounds like he already knows what he knows, which is a dangerous thing when attempting to learn.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By gregcable2002 on 3/27/2007 9:44 AM
n-tres-ted

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government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for
national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By bobo on 3/27/2007 9:50 AM
Huh. The newest spreadsheet from the SIA shows that FTDs and FTRs declined to about $55 billion on the last day of Q3, 2006, offset by higher borrowed shares - so the industry actually went out and borrowed more to offset the FTDs and FTRs. Go to SIA.com under research and check it out. Still a mountain shorted, but obviously a push to lower the overall number some - so now only 9 times larger than the DTCC will admit, just in NYSE member firms.

Dave Patch has a remarkably lucid comment letter to the SEC, which will be available for perusal at the SEC.gov site shortly. I believe it is already up at Investigatethesec.com. I sent one in I jotted off last evening, furious over this farce.

None of this seems to change the SEC's willingness to allow rampant abuse, nor for talking head apologists to claim that there is no there there.
Only a 30 days extension? By sjstockshark on 3/27/2007 9:59 AM
It looks to me like the SEC is reopening for 30 days only after publication in the Federal Register, see below:


http://www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/2007/34-55520.pdf

This appears to be in response to the NASD's findings and data submitted on March 12, 2007. I do not see this a negative move by the SEC. One of the reasons for the additional comment period is the significant amount of fails to deliver by broker dealers using the "grandfather" clause not to close out trades.

It sounds to me the "grandfather" clause is a goner.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By MarionPolk2000 on 3/27/2007 10:42 AM
Only in the USA is it possible to freely criticize the crooks running the government without fear that it will result in any action what-so-ever.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By who isnt disgusted on 3/27/2007 11:08 AM
well said marionpolk.
i've just about given up on my government. its systems are broken & they are lying about them. we have just shown they won't respond to fraudulent market actions. our intelligent pleas for help fall on deaf compromised ears. all they give are useless speeches to ease the masses and then let the problems fester. they spend taxpayers money making toothless laws that they won't enforce. and we waste time, effort & money voting for their chosen people who are unresponsive & useless. voting is a sham choosing between only those that can "deal up" enought money to launch expensive campaigns. as the "out of power" class, we are not represented in our gubmint. our savings will be drained off. we will work til we drop.
this system is no different from any other slave induced oligarchy.
the USA as was sold to us is over.
next world series...when they play that star spangled banner... most honest response would be to turn our backs. our leaders have turned their backs on us.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Patchie on 3/27/2007 11:21 AM
This is a delay tactic of a deperate (and conflicted) individual. Consider carefully some qualifiers:

1. The SEC admits that both the NASD data and NYSE data was part of the data used in the OEA analysis publicized in August 2006. So what new data is being presented?

2. The two paragraphs of data submitted this time through does not constitute "solid emperical data" which was the specific request of the three commenters identified as responsible for this delay. In fact the language used implies that only cursory inspections took place.

3. Regarding those three, each submitted a comment letter AFTER the August analysis was published (the August analysis now referenced in this memo).

4. Of those three commenters, two had never commented on the original SHO proposal and one all but admitted in his first comment memo that he is a short seller who believes that there should be unlimited short selling in the OTCBB and pink Sheets.

I want to know if the SEC was smart enough to evaluate whether these FTD's attributed to options fails were localized to a very small focus group of hedge funds thus making this hoopla all about protecting a small universe of hedge funds.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By framsebner@shaw.ca on 3/27/2007 12:47 PM
In investors information the SEC.say's:"We can not tell you what investments to make, but we can tell you how to invest wisely to avoid fraud."Please SEC. tell us
how to invest wisely on your recommendation when you for years knowingly supported the CROOKS that are nacket shortselling our investments and you are supossed to be the policing authority. "NOW SEC. WHAT DOES THAT MAKE YOU ?
Grandfathering is criminal !!!
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By mhatmccane on 3/27/2007 1:49 PM


We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way
> through Congress.
> -- Will Rogers

or the SEC
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By ted on 3/27/2007 2:02 PM
Are they working under some other government agencies rules? Is there a maximum amount of time between the posting of a proposed rule, when the comment period ends and when the rule has to go into effect?

They did this same stall for the original rule SHO - that dragged out for around nine months.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Both oars in the water on 3/27/2007 2:07 PM
"New congressionally mandated oversight of credit rating agencies by the SEC and combating abusive "naked" short selling are other areas where the SEC is focusing, according to Cox. "

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20070327%5cACQDJON
200703271337DOWJONESDJONLINE000527.htm&

Make sure you and everyone you know comments and demands immediate trade settlement!

It will not cause short squeezes. It will be a naturally driven upward adjustment, which is different than a short squeeze.

He who sells what isn't hisin,

Must buy it back or go to prison.

Buy back time.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By hedgie on 3/27/2007 3:04 PM
http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a2656.htm
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By hedgie on 3/27/2007 3:22 PM
Scroll down to this part on the last link.

Washington, D.C., March 26, 2007: “Sometimes one can discover fascinating facts in unexpected placed. In the Business section of the New York Times on March 26, we see an ad for an auction on page C9. It announced that Morgan Stanley Mortgage Capital, Inc. is auctioning off 13,200 residential mortgage loans on March 29.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Bobo on 3/27/2007 3:37 PM
So NEW generated a bunch of garbage loans, as I said for years they were doing. What does that have to do with this blog, or the SEC, or failure to deliver, or realy anything at all we are discussing? Would that be nothing? At all?
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By banksters on 3/27/2007 3:48 PM
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By old duffer on 3/27/2007 6:07 PM
Looks like one of our favorite crook broker/dealer/bankster Gs may get 'GOLDEN GUTTING'

Read this then go to this link. much more pain for other favorite bad
guys

http://news.goldseek.com/LemetropoleCafe/1175097600.php

Take care,
Scott

Bill,
In the March 26 session on the TOCOM Goldman Sachs increased their short position by 288 contracts to bring their short position to 31,861 contracts. I have included the updated chart of GS TOCOM position against the gold price. There are three uptrend channels marked for the gold price. It can be seen that the GS short position also follows three distinct uptrending channels marked in red #1, #2 & #3. These uptrend channels of their short position are consecutively at lower levels which clearly shows that GS is staging a managed retreat from their toxic short position. What is interesting of late is that GS is 100% short without a single long contract. Is this indicative of it becoming more and more difficult to hold down the market? I don’t know, but we are likely to find out soon.


Like i said,buy gold and silver now!




Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By old duffer on 3/27/2007 6:22 PM
seems like the same crooks show up in several markets,er i mean rigs jobs.

ole joe kennedy would be so proud ,if he wern't so busy roasting
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Both oars in the water- on 3/27/2007 6:32 PM
"He (Cox) called the SEC's past efforts to address short- selling abuses "inadequate" since some pre-exisiting short sales were exempted from stricter rules by a "grandfather" clause, and said ENDING THE EXEMPTION" will further tighten" short sales and help eliminate abuses.'

By Judith Burns Dow Jones released today
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By tommytoyz on 3/28/2007 1:51 AM
The final rule will be a gradual elimination of the grandfather provision and the cosmetic tightening of the market maker exemption.

That's my guess.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By b8nw84u on 3/28/2007 8:35 AM
Tommy:

I really don't think a final rule, when or if, will be relevent anymore. It is becoming more apparent each day, the plan is to crash the markets to buy in those fails. In some regards, I am starting to feel like we have been played and induced to assist the miscreants with their efforts to spread the fear. How do you crash markets? You spread fear. By creating more controversy around NSS, it induces us to spread the word, which in essense spreads the fear. Does anybody else think FEAR was the objective of releasing and spreading Cramers's expose of hedge fund tatics? What other possible reason would there be for booyah to admit to and expose fraud, 2 months after the original taping at that? The financial media in collusion are reporting nothing but negative news? I mean, how many times over the next month are we going to see the headline: Markets down as investors fear subprime woes. I suspect we will start hearing more Cramer like exposed tatics, such as Iran fires missles at US ships like yesterday. Oh, those rumours sure do have a negative effect. Spread the fear. SEC extending the comments is a pure stall tactic to allow a market crash for the benefit of bad, very bad people. I am just trying to figure out what the main event will be to cause the capitulation. Hmm, another 9-11 type event? Who knows. Well, I suppose there are those who do know.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Phil Saunders should be arrested for sodomy on 3/28/2007 2:15 PM
After the butt fucking he has given all the morons who followed his moronic investment advice.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By old duffer on 3/26/2007 4:40 PM
Cox is a lying criminal!
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By roger_fleetwin on 3/26/2007 5:43 PM
On Thursday, Mar 22nd, the SEC addressed a forum at City Univ of NY on the RegSHO amendments. Spokesman James Brigagliano, SEC's Associate Director of Market Regulations, made an astonishing statement---"The SEC will consider how any change in RegSHO could affect prime brokerage arrangements."
Here it is, in plain language, that the SEC's first mandate is investor protection, insofar as nothing upsets the thieving plans of the Wall Street powerhouses.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By rtway on 3/26/2007 5:59 PM
Whatever happened to all the rhetoric from Specter and Grassley and all other defenders of the investing public. Sounds to me like its time to break out the vaseline again. We can't convince Joe six pack that he is being ripped off, but Mark Cuban and Charlie Sheen are working on a 9-11 conspiracy film that shows America killing America and Joe six pack will believe it because Michael and Mark wouldn't lie to us and hey its on film. The dumbing of America continues and with great profits.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By n-tres-ted on 3/26/2007 6:55 PM
Specter, Grassley, Bennett and Hatch are the only senators who have expressed interest and concern about corruption at the SEC providing Wall Street players wide lattitude in insider trading and selling shares they do not own or deliver. The SEC stiff-armed Specter and Grassley last summer and fall on the bet the election would put the Democrats back in charge, and the bet paid off. Not one of the four senators named above now has the authority to convene a hearing or subpoena a witness. In short, the heat in off of the SEC and its staff, and they will do as they wish when they wish. Outrageous!!
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By clearthinker on 3/26/2007 7:23 PM
SETTLE THE TRADES.

Everyone should bombard the SEC with emails and phone calls demanding the immediate end of the grandfather clause, and settlement of all fails.

Focus all voices on one mission.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By b8nw84u on 3/26/2007 7:42 PM
This is my final "comment" posted on the SEC website. The group of investors I belong to are taking matters into our own hands. Enough is enough. Writen in haste and out of complete disgust, so not the most elegant of prose.

Okay, I give up. You folks are worthless. Funny, how others can see the problem and identify the laws YOU have broken, yet you still need more coments before enacting any kind of protection for the little guy, you know the other 95% of American investors trying to secure a decent retirement. Thanks for all your help protecting my little nest egg. I am not giving Wall Street my money. Instead, I am going to put a sign on my house inviting crooks in to steal whatever they can get their hands on. This way, I will at least be able to look the THIEF in the eyes as he walks away with my property. You at the SEC (Simply Enabling Crooks) are nothing more than the fox gaurding the hen house. Don't care if this is an A or B letter or if you even post it because you get the message. Simply disgusting, all of you.

A REAL American

Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By tmg on 3/26/2007 7:46 PM
The SEC needs to be called onto the carpet for this. Maybe if the HFS gets enough telephone calls they will figure it will take less energy to do its job than to delete voice mail messages from us: Lawranne Stewart 202-225-4247. Also Brack Hudson at Senate Banking 202-224-7391.

There is no excuse for the SEC not to proceed immediately with the proposed amendments and then continue the much needed reforms from there.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By rtway on 3/26/2007 8:38 PM
BY n Trested I am so glad you posted this. This will show the hypocrisy of this whole smoke and mirrors that these politicians play. Lets cut to the chase and get all the bullshit out of the way. Either party will severe one another's throats if they know they can win and gain control. The Dems had a package gift wrapped and handed to them via the Reg. Sho. and Gary Aguire, not to mention a hundred other scandals that I don't have space for. Durbin and many others knew they could nail Cox to the cross and did nothing. Now we have Barney Frank who will spit fire for a couple speeches and then back to business as normal. Bobo is right in that this system is broke beyond repair. This country has been so hold out and a new world order will emerge. Call me a kook I don't care but the hand writing is on the wall like neon spray paint. All these pols are in it together with their world partners as part of the global economy. Such a cute phrase for world wide crooks with the same motive. The Rothschilds and Soros of the world are truly having their way with Joe six pack.
More Stalling to ComeRe: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Good Fundamentals on 3/26/2007 9:24 PM
I doubt that the SEC will force immediate settlement of the grandfathered FTDs - they can't even effectively regulate the non-grandfathered FTDs like the NFI (Novastar Financial) FTDs. NFI was off the SHO threshold list for over a month in April-May 2006.

The SEC needs a solid plan for clearing up the FTDs that won't simultaneously create the MOASS (Mother of All Short Squeezes) the Prime Brokers and Options MMs deserve.

Best Way to Eliminate FTDs is to Charge Daily FTD Fees that Increase Over Time
The SEC could issue a rule that the fees have to be provided to the companies who must pay 75% or more of the fees to the shareholders as non-qualified dividends and can keep up to 25% for the company with corporate taxes only being paid on the "up to 25%" being kept by the companies - in essence REIT distribution rules but a 75% threshold instead of 90%.

The fee should be a % of share price so that all FTDd securities are treated equally - no preferential treatment for the big dollar stocks or the penny stocks. No preferential treatment for grandfathered securities except that puts sold before the effective date of the plan would have until the put expiration date to be covered.

Nice and easy - start the fee at 1%/day and raise it 0.5%/day. Capping at 100%. The fee should be based on all FTDs - not those over 0.5% of the float. The are NO excuses for FTDs. All shares must be at the DTCC in order to be traded - immediate settlement - not three days.

I think the naked shorts would make a relatively quick run for the exits or the degree of fraud would have to deepen.

No more temporary broker or MM exemptions, except for grandfathered puts.

This is just a rough framework but the SEC needs a step by step plan for bringing in the phantom shares that doesn't destroy Options MM spreads on existing contracts - no matter how crooked Wall Street is.

Also, Wall Street needs to provide open short interest figures with the quoes that are as timely as the quotes.

Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Brian Maguire on 3/26/2007 9:39 PM
Tell me it ain't so!!! When will these perps ever let the the victim off the canvas?

It must be so lucretive and the SEC is so well compensated by these shylocks that they have to be jailed to be stopped or worse!!
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Bobo on 3/26/2007 10:13 PM
It's really simple. Stealing is wrong. Fraud is wrong. Stealing and fraud pay well. The cops no longer stop things that are wrong, or that are against the law. Because they pay too well.

And nobody can figure out why there is no appetite to keep money in the US market. Gee.

How about another comment period on whether it is bad to take money from investors, and refuse to deliver, for years, while you make money by running companies into the dirt? Do as Jimbo says, and make sure there's lots of press to enforce your view of the truth - which is usually a lie as the truth is so against your position - that way you can point to the "news" as the reason you were forced to sell millions of shares that didn't exist.

And on it goes. Nothing changing, bad guys pocketing billions, as we stand with our noses pressed up against the glass, wondering what it must be like to live in a free and fair place.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By FreddoCazzo on 3/26/2007 10:58 PM
.....to me this signals a terrifying moment.....

A revolution is mounting. The gubmint may just have to declare martial law...

This is an absolute outrage.

Cox.....off with the head of it!

FC,CF
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Both oars in the water on 3/27/2007 2:23 AM
I read this as a positive. I think we now have an opportunity to make sure this illegal grandfathering loophole gets eliminated. Anyone who has seen Phantom shares or Jim Cramer on Market Manipulation on Youtube can clearly see the need for reform.
They tried to derail this with a biased round table last fall. This is our opportunity to give them all the ammo they need to do the right thing and settle the trades. Everyone here has enlightened at least a few more people since the last comment period. Encourage them to comment! Anyone who has seen Phantom Shares knows how important this is. Let's utilize this momentum to GET A FAIR AND WELL POLICED MARKETPLACE WORTHY OF OUR INVESTMENT!

WE WILL GET THE SHARES WE PAID FOR AND WE WON'T SETTLE FOR LESS!!!

Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By R Roncaglio on 3/27/2007 4:30 AM
Bobo..Isay we unite and take out a full page ad in either NY Times or Today.This is total bs,we're being raped by our own government.You could provide or Dave Patch/Mark Faulk could collaborate on some painful insights that would embarass the SEC..what say you..THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By R Roncaglio on 3/27/2007 4:31 AM
Bobo..Isay we unite and take out a full page ad in either NY Times or Today.This is total bs,we're being raped by our own government.You could provide or Dave Patch/Mark Faulk could collaborate on some painful insights that would embarass the SEC..what say you..THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By FreddoCazzo on 3/27/2007 5:18 AM
tmg.....I was informed that brack hudson hasn't worked for Senate Banking in years, but they did forward me to someone's mailbox to leave a message....I hope it does some good.

FC,CF
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By old duffer on 3/27/2007 5:31 AM
take all your money you have left out of US markets and buy silver and gold. the only things that hold any value in a total finacial collapse which I now believe is going to happen for sure from what we see going on.

think survival first and justice second
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By bbhindyou on 3/27/2007 7:30 AM
Duffer is right.
Don't forget a sucessful survival for us bunny types always depends on having a escape route planned and a few back door exits no one knows about.
A stash of coin NOT paper no new worthless coin either which lets out any american currency this century.
Don't forget the value of something is what people can afford to pay for it.
When things needed for survival are not affordable to the average person then the things of value now will be worthless.
The value is gone from the losses on stock accounts in the last ten years.
The value is going where the retired people were convinced the way to make up losses were new morgages and stock investment in aggresive funds .
I heard a neighbor explain how after going down so much the market HAD to go up now,it was the chance of a lifetime , replace all the 401-k losses before the morgage rate adjusts and pay it all off. This was in 2000 now she has no money and a high adjusted morgage.
She is not the only one.
When the amount of houses in forclosure exeeds the amount of buyers availible the housing value in america will plunge.
Stock equity/value gone.
Real estate equity/value gone.
Where?
Who?
Why?
I see a perfect storm ahead.
Life jackets everybody this ship is going down.

Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By gregcable2002 on 3/27/2007 8:13 AM
Is this what we are seeing today?
The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia.
Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that
human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need". The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions,
assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived
common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding,
and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are
made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by
government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public
opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the
government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power,
creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated
entirely or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon
for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the
arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing
to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in
fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to
government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for
national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or
even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the
media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

[see http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By gregcable2002 on 3/27/2007 8:21 AM
Fourteen Characteristics of Fascism

Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, wrote an article about fascism which appeared in Free Inquiry magazine -- a journal of humanist thought. Dr. Britt
studied the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). He found the regimes all had 14
things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The article is titled 'Fascism Anyone?', by Lawrence Britt, and appears in Free
Inquiry's Spring 2003 issue on page 20.


Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Bobo on 3/27/2007 8:24 AM
I was one of the first, if not the first, commentators for this new round of dross. Let's see if they actually publish the comments. We can assume that the Carol's of the world will make much hay out of the industry pieces, while completely ignoring all submissions that run contrary to the industry status quo...
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By gregcable2002 on 3/27/2007 8:30 AM


Things that make you go,HMMMMMMMMM????
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By rangercapt on 3/27/2007 8:52 AM
I am not going to keep up with this web site any longer. It is not getting results period. If any of you folks are still investing in the markets you should have spotted the pattern that is emerging. Big Money is moving into Bonds. The short interest in the overall markets is at historic highs. They have sold stock short in massive amounts and used the money to buy into the bond market. The stocks of most companies are going to fall this year. The stock markets are going to crash and the bond markets are going to explode. The plan to short billions of shares worked. The markets are in for a massive decline and the massive short positions will be covered for profits next year when the stock makets start to make a bottom. There is a huge crash coming and it was created by massive debt. The private equity folks came in and bought up companies that were depressed in price by short sellers and then loaded up the companies with debt. They get thier money back in the form of a dividend and the company is left with too much debt to every make a proft. The private equity till push these companies into the stock market again, just not the US markets. The Baby Boomers that do not covert assets to bonds, CD's, or Tresuray notes are going to lost 50% or more of thier nest egg. The stock markets are broken and the lack of regulation by the SEC police is responsible for the problems. Hedge funds only took advantage of the laxed regulation and got rich, which is what they were created to do. I do not like being so negative but the markets are setting up for what happened in the early 80's. It is over and long slow decline is upon us. Be smart and get out of the way or pick out a really strong American company and short the crap out of it. They will all go down with the makets period.
Re: Remember How The SEC Stalled Meaningful Action for Years on FTDs? More Doing Nothing Ahead... By Paladin on 3/27/2007 9:16 AM

Anyone care to "educate" this guy? He's looking for comments.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/30732

He saw the Bloomberg video and is unconvinced. Or else he's just trying to stir up the pot and get people to post so he doesn't remain alone in the woods.

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