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Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC

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Posted by:   bobo 3/20/2007 4:34 PM

NASAA just issued forth a remarkable Amicus brief in the Whistler case, lambasting the DTCC's position that it should essentially be answerable to nobody for its role in an alleged fraud against investors.

NASAA argues that the DTCC, a private monopoly, shouldn't be above the law, or recourse in state court, because of the laughable, "Too big to fail" arguments it has advanced.

Read the Amicus brief here.

And consider the hubris required to try that argument in the first place.

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Jim Cramer was featured in the NY Post, in an article pretending shock and amazement over his statements in DECEMBER on stockwire.

Those same statements along with the footage that contained them were up at a number of different websites over the last few months, as well as on Youtube. Which apparently, the entire NY financial press corps missed for that period. But suddenly it is news. What will they tell us next - we invaded Iraq?

I reviewed his statements again from that show, and could find nothing surprising - he indicated that he knew how to break the law, to manipulate stocks, and that he did it when he was a hedge fund manager, pretty much whenever he felt like it, that he knew it was illegal, and that he didn't care, and that it was a fun game, and that he felt that other hedge funds should and often do exactly the same thing - lie, steal "moron longs'" money, manipulate using false info and fraudulent devices, etc. And that the SEC wasn't going to stop it, as it couldn't find its own bottom if it had a handle on it.

What kills me is all the folks pretending that this is news of some sort.

Jim comes out and tells you what I've been telling you for years now - the market is rigged, powerful hedge funds do whatever they like without any fear of punishment, the law is broken habitually, if you don't do it you are a moron and a rube, and there is nothing to worry about from any regulator, as they are either incompetent, or crooked - that from the recent Senate report issued by Grassley and Specter, not Cramer - and it is a big deal? Please. Man bites dog this isn't.

What kills me is that some third-tier pubs are acting like this is all just sooooo surprising. I mean, nobody wants to put any money into the US market anymore (can you believe that they are still trying to color that as due to Sarbanes-Oxley, or over-regulation, or some other windmill?) because it is so badly rigged and gamed, and it is getting worse, not better, and groups like NASAA are holding conferences to discuss what a snakepit of larceny the markets are......

And we needed Jim to tell us this?

How about when he wiped his A with the SEC subpoena? Did that afford any clues as to his fear of the regulators or their massive clout on the Street? Or how about when Cox couldn't quash those same subpoenas fast enough, literally was on the line in his PJs to shut them down....were you getting any hints at that point? How about when companies like OSTK are on the SHO list forever? Or when NFI preferred stock is on SHO, and there are no options for it, thus the "it's all the options market makers" pablum is conspicuously impossible to fall back upon? Or how about when the SEC grandfathers in all naked shorted shares prior to a company appearing on the SHO list, even though ALL rules are required to go out to public comment before they can be enacted, and grandfathering never was? Is that bad, when even the regulator does whatever it feels like, with no fear of reprisal or accountability?

And we are supposed to believe those they are policing, who hire them when they want 7-figure "attaboys" for a job well done, are terrified of them and thus behaving themselves?

We don't really need Jim to tell us that the entire system is dangerously out of control when our lawmakers and regulators ignore the rules and laws, and treat those they are chartered with protecting as annoyances. Annette Nazareth saying that those who complain about massive naked short selling and Reg SHO are crybabies upset over their stocks failing to go up, typifies the attitude of the SEC...and instead of being fired and publicly castigated, she was given a commissioner's seat. What does that tell you?

Aguire was fired for wanting to investigate Pequot and Mack, after 18 referrals and complaints from SROs over trading that could have only been insider, because Aguire had the temerity to want to do his job versus allowing the Wall Street scumbag clique rip off the American investor, with impunity. Nazareth spits on investors, the SEC delays any meaningful action for years while pretending to do some busy work (as it ignores the rhino in the room), and guys like Elgindy go to jail for 12 years for fraud, collusion, racketeering, etc. - but only after all evidence of their having know about 9/11 before it happened is struck from the record and banned from the courtroom (true story - he told his broker to sell all his stocks on 9/10, and said the Dow would fall by 3000 points tomorrow, and to wire all the proceeds to his middle eastern account). How F-d up does this have to obviously be that this kind of obfuscation goes on, and Joe Public is being told to relinquish his rights to protect himself from the bad guys?

Folks, the bad guys were busy naked short selling, before, during and after 9/11. WE KNOW THAT from the Elgindy thing. They do it every day - they lie, destroy honest companies and people for profit and fun, break the law like it's double parking, and nobody does anything about it.

And with all this going on, we need Jim to alert us that rich and powerful hedge funds can routinely manipulate the markets, using money, illegal trading, planting and broadcasting of lies, etc?

He's getting a bad rap. All he did was say what is completely and patently obvious to anyone familiar with the way the markets really work - it is all a lie, and you have no chance, as the bad guys run the show, and do whatever they like, and whatever it takes, to get your money. He described some of the ways they do it, and admitted that it was common.

Even as the NY press issues forth more articles about how no hedge fund regulation is needed, and how the market is a perfect entity that polices itself.

I pointed out several years ago that Wall Street was saying that back in 1932 and 1933, as the SEC was being formed - that the regulator was unnecessary, amd that the market was a perfect machine.

True.

A perfect fleecing machine, with a thin veneer of polish and civility carefully propagated by that machine's PR flacks.

Bloomberg tore the lid off the naked short selling crisis last week - did any of the big NY pubs write long exposes indicating that Patch and Bud and Faulk and Patrick and I have been right, for years now, and that the entire NY media machine was dedicated to propagating a lie? Not a chance. The less said about the Bloomberg piece, from Wall Street's perspective, the better. Nobody wants to draw any more attention to that than it has already received. Shhhhh. Ignore it, and it never happened.

So Jim says it's a cheap con, and that he has been behind the curtain pulling the levers before?

Wow. What's next? Politicians aren't honest? Attorneys lie? As do judges, regulators, cops, priests, CEOs, etc. etc. etc.?

Say it isn't so.

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I suggested in my last blog that anyone interested in making a change send a letter to the addressees, and make their voices heard. I want to remind you all again to get off your butts and do something.

Either take action, or be lunch.

Not much in between.

And if you aren't doing something, you really are just food.

Copyright ©2007 Bob O'Brien
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Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By AngryMob on 3/21/2007 8:50 AM
For those that missed it, the graphic of Cramer wiping his ass with the subpoena. Pass this graphic on as this is getting press - maybe a newspaper will run with the photo.

Cox's response, as the head of the SEC was to hold a press conference to say Cramer was right - it was really BS that he had been served and he was personally quashing the SEC investigation. Cox was embarrassed that Cramer had to wipe his ass with an SEC document and personally chastised his staff for investigating Cramer. Kind of like when the guy that got shot in the face apologized to Cheney for the embarrassment his wounds had caused him.

http://www.thesanitycheck.com/Portals/0/cramersubpoena1.jpg
http://www.thesanitycheck.com/Portals/0/cramersubpoena2.jpg

Kind of like when they quashed the NASD anti naked shorting rule in 2004 THAT WAS WORKING or the new BBX in 2003 that WOULD HAVE WORKED. OTC companies spent two years preparing for that new honest exchange. The SEC HATES IT when investors are being protected.

Remind me where the new SHO is - comments were due last fall.

What exactly IS the American dream? What IS capitalism?

A family might start with a single restaurant and over a couple of generations, build a chain of restaurants, thinking that that was capitalism is about, but they quickly find they need to compete with other restaurants that launder drug money and don't care about profits as they are focussed on laundering drug money through their public listing.

Cut to photo of Richard Grasso meeting with drug cartels, encouraging them to consider the NYSE.

People that start companies from scratch, build them up and hire others to plow money back into the community are RUBES. It isn't about hard work or investing wisely - that's what the new capitalist dummies in China, India and Russia are doing. We're about exporting factories and making money in the market, manipulating share prices up and down to steal money from people that work for a living.

The foreign countries taking our factories and working hard will never succeed in the face of our successful market manipulation and bombing others into submission.

Every time some poor kid in Iraq gets bombed or some teenaged American soldier loses his leg, I think we are fighting the wrong terrorists. The real terrorists live on Park Avenue. There are a lot of art collectors on Wall Street that could use a good punch in the nose.

Almost 100,000 people watched the Cramer video. Wallstreet, in their bravado underestimates Joe Sixpack. He's slow to get pissed off, but when he does, I'd hate to be the poster boy for the share counterfeiting scandal.

Gary Weiss, Jim Cramer, et al are crazy to brag that they support ripping off widows and orphans.

We're wheeling out the guillotines, but there is still time for the thieves to grab some common sense and realize they've stolen enough.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By danny on 3/21/2007 8:52 AM
If we're going to stop the bastards from orchestrating another 1929 depression, we need to read our history. The bastards that stole from us in the 1920's became our leaders, including president.

Read this series of Time magazine articles:

*** Feb. 1929 before the crash ***

Deja vu, senators from Utah, corrupt brokerages and a crash for the people.

"Since, however, the very Senators and Representatives who were most inclined to view Wall Street as the heart of the money octopus also regarded the Federal Reserve System as at least a tentacle of the same monster, the banker was scolded while the broker was flayed."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,880512-1,00.html

*** November 1929 ***

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,787517,00.html?internalid=AE

The Sith Lord of 1929:

"No one could quite believe that Mr. Livermore was, in storybook fashion, tsar of a band of bears which had fanatically obeyed his orders for two months. But certain it seemed that a colossal effort to reduce the price of stocks had had masterful direction, beginning with the selling of U. S. securities by the French Government and other European investors weeks ago."

*** 1930 ***

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,787624,00.html

"Afterwards in the quiet security of an upstairs study President Hoover heard Richard Whitney, president of the New York Stock Exchange, and Allen Ledyard Lindley, its vice president, talk about the stockmarket, bear raids, short sales. President Hoover was vitally interested because the recent fall of stocks below the lows of last November's crash focused the business depression in all its gloom before a nationwide electorate on its way to the polls."
"Last week it was estimated that the Soviet Government had made close to $1,000,000 profit in a month by covering the short wheat sales which precipitated Secretary of Agriculture Hyde's violent but short-lived anti-Red campaign."

*** 1934 Pecora Hearings ***

http://jcgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,754118,00.html
Kind of like lying on FOCUS reports.

"Mr. Pecora's figures were out of focus because not all brokers answered his questionnaire in the same way. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. and the House of Morgan reported only their modest income from commissions, not their underwriting and banking income."
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By rtway on 3/22/2007 11:30 AM
John Gibson called for an investigation of george Soros and Jim Cramer on his Fox news show this afternoon. Gibson did a story on Cramer the day before because of his film.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By Sean on 3/22/2007 11:32 AM
Thought you may like to see this!!

Cramer's clip quip may breach contract
By Riva Froymovich
March 21, 2007
Jim Cramer, host of CNBC’s “Mad Money,” may have broken a "disparagement clause" in his contract when he boasted about manipulating stock prices when he was a Wall Street trader in an interview, The New York Post reported.
webcast for TheStreet.com, now circulating widely on the Web, Mr. Cramer said one winning trading strategy is to spread rumors to reporters on stocks, and named CNBC correspondent Bob Pisani, who reports from the New York Stock Exchange.

Most CNBC employment contracts have a "disparagement clause" that bars employees or contractors from publicly criticizing on-air talent, unnamed sources told the Post.

http://www.investmentnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070321/REG/70321015/1022/ONLINENEWS
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By bobo on 3/22/2007 11:43 AM
There's no way Cramer gets axed from CNBC. I just think this is amusing, given that it operates exactly as I have been saying for years. Short and distort. Lie, cheat and steal.

I love where he's now saying he is a poor communicator, and it is all a misunderstanding. The guy who communicates for a living, and has a law degree, is suddenly the dumbest guy in the room.

I watched the clip again, and it seemed pretty clear to me. He actually did a very good job of communicating exactly how the game works. Now he is backpeddaling - "Er...I didn't mean I actually ever did any of that....er...ahem..."

Sure thing, Jimbo. Were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By Robbing Us Blind on 3/22/2007 2:31 PM
What happed with those subpeonas? The people have a right to know.

Lets have a congressional hearing about the billions of dollars being stolen from the individual investor. What more important a baseball congressional hearing or a hearing about how these crooks are robbing YOU blind?
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By long_ostk on 3/22/2007 2:32 PM
cramer had the video pulled from you tube. No longer available.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By rtway on 3/22/2007 2:33 PM
I hope CNBC axes itself via crappy ratings. When the next bear market comes as it always does at some time I think Jimmy and many others over there are toast. Maybe Becky could get a job at the VIEW and be a tag team with Rosie as to see who can make you vomit first.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By clearthinker on 3/22/2007 2:34 PM
OK - so we have Jim Cramer admitting for all the world to see what we already knew, that Wall St is a rigged game and that people who know how the system works can steal money. No different that the specialists on the floor, no different than market makers seeing bids come in and scalp...so many loopholes so little time....

HOWEVER, we shold not lose our focus. SETTLE THE TRADES...STOP ILLEGAL MANIPULATION (ALA SEDONA, courtesy Refco)...

Send the manipulators to jail...no more ridiculously low fines "wihtout admitting wrongdoing"....what kind of BS is this.....
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By InTheKnow on 3/22/2007 8:42 PM
Wall Street vs. Main Street
by Mark Faulk
March 22, 2007

In Oklahoma, a man faces up to 20 years in prison and $250,000 in
fines after pleading guilty to selling $21,000 worth of concert and sporting
event tickets on the internet, but never delivering them. In another case, a
man and a woman are charged with selling computer software to customers on
Ebay, and face felony charges for not delivering the products. In that case,
Oklahoma Attorney General Drew Edmondson said that ³We allege that customers
paid for items they never received. The internet should not be a safe harbor
for criminals.²

Yet every day, six billion dollars worth of shares are purchased in
companies in the US stock market, and not delivered. Someone signs on to
their brokerage account, or more accurately, millions of someones sign on,
and pay for shares in companies that their broker doesn¹t deliver. In some
cases, those shares are never delivered, creating what is essentially a
flood of counterfeit shares in publicly traded companies, harming both
investors and the companies themselves.

In the next few weeks, the Oklahoma Legislature will vote on a landmark
bill that could serve as the model for stock market reform efforts
nationwide. It has been written to withstand the legal assault that Wall
Street has unleashed on other legislation introduced in other states. The
measure, SB979, has already passed the Senate and will come up for a vote in
the House sometime in the next few weeks.

This issue is NOT as much about Wall Street screwing investors as it is
about the loss of potential jobs, local and state tax revenue lost,
citizens¹ investment funds stolen, and retirement funds decimated. It¹s
about hedge fund managers building hockey rinks in their backyards while the
rest of the country struggles just to make ends meet. It¹s about CEOs of the
major brokerage firms getting bonuses amounting to tens of millions of
dollars a year while small startup companies are forced into bankruptcy
before they even have a chance to see if they can flourish on their own
merit.


To read the rest of this article and find out how you can help, go to:
http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Investing101/1073.html




Mark Faulk
info@FaulkingTruth.com
www.FaulkingTruth.com
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By ckza on 3/22/2007 8:43 PM
Why hasn't he been indicted yet?

His prior admission at the NY Investor conference surrounding Enron, his Merrill buddy on the soccer field, and his blatent demand for the Health South CEO to release earnings numbers to him in advance of the public report was more egregious.

This man belongs in jail! imo
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By rmr on 3/22/2007 8:44 PM
the cramer video is gone from youtube. is it saved somewhere else?
thanks.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By AND.ON.AND.ON on 3/22/2007 8:45 PM
I EMAILED CHARLIE, HIS RESPONSE "WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO WITH IT" my reply back was as a investigative reporter dont you think this should be looked into?? his reply back..."WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ME" looks like hes not interested in touching this story or getting involved with this!!!
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By Tom Thumb on 3/22/2007 8:53 PM
The Cramer Video is back up at youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7VUBPwIhHs

Want to bet it is reloaded to many sites as fast as Thestreet can whine about copyright infringment and get it pulled from youtube each time? What a bunch of pathetic creeps.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By whatafugker on 3/23/2007 3:19 PM
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by TheStreet.com
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By kashman9 on 3/23/2007 4:51 AM
Dear CNBC,

Before I enter your “$1 Million Dollar Portfolio Challenge” I would like to ask you a few questions regarding the rules of trading for your challenge.

If I decide to short a stock that I pick for my portfolio will CNBC condone my strategy to “…create a level of activity beforehand that would drive the futures….” of the stock that I wish to short?

The reason I’m asking this is because if Jim Cramer feels that it’s safe to enact this type strategy that “the Securities and Exchange Commission never understands this” then I guess CNBC would condone it. This would mean that there’s a good chance that this strategy would work for me in your portfolio challenge.

Is this type of strategy a good and legal strategy for your challenge?

Also, in regards to the stock that I plan on shorting, I was thinking of calling a few hedge funds and asking them to “not do anything remotely truthful…” regarding my stock pick, “because the truth is so against your view that it’s important to create a new truth to develop a fiction…”.

So if a little negative fiction gets planted in the marketplace by a few of the hedge funds that I call, is this also a good and legal strategy for your challenge that might give me an advantage over your other contestants?

I figure, “Look, over maybe 2 weeks from now the buyers will come to their senses and realize that everything that they heard was a lie, but then again Fannie Mae lied about their earnings for 6 billion dollars, its just fiction and fiction and fiction. And I think its important for people to recognize, is that the way that the market really works, is to have that nexus hit the brokerage houses with a series of orders that can push down, then leak it to the press and then get it on CNBC, that’s also very important; and then you have a vicious cycle down…”

“It’s a pretty good game.” …and I think it might be a very good strategy for me trying to win your “$1 Million Dollar Portfolio Challenge”.

What do you think?

Before I try to enter using this strategy, I just wanted to clear it with you to see if CNBC will condone my strategy for winning your “$1 Million Dollar Portfolio Challenge”.

I await your reply, before I enter your contest.

Sincerely,

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Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By kashman9 on 3/23/2007 7:23 AM
bobo,

Please read my "Letter to CNBC" posted above regarding using the "Jim Cramer" strategy to enter their "$1 Million Dollar Portfolio Challenge".

Sorry to bring attention to this post, but when I posted it this morning it did not post in chronological order as a new post, but instead got posted up in the middle of all of the older posts on this thread.

Anyway it was posted today, March 23rd.

Just want to make sure that you read it.

Thanks for all that you have done and continue to do regarding the "Naked Shorting" fight!

kashman9
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By iscore4evr on 3/23/2007 3:20 PM
Maybe Cramer thinks that the DOJ is finally going to be doing something about all this. Maybe he knows by making himself so publically visable on the subject of market manipulation, the DOJ will go to him first for his full immunity testimony. The guys a snake and will turn on his fellow reptiles with venom if he thinks there is a profit for himself somewhere.

But I doubt it. He thinks he is untouchable. I agree with him, he is. All the miscreants are. If they started prosecuting the felons there would be no publically elected officials left to run our country(into the ground). Few will ever pay the price of hard money and harder time. Those that are will only be show pieces to placate.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By oldfeller on 3/23/2007 4:29 PM
I`m interested to see how they do away with the grandfather clause yet not create the market volatility or short squeezes they seem intent on preventing. How do they intend to buy in millions of fake shares on the open market and at the same time prevent prices from going back up to where they were originally? This will be interesting.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By InTheKnow on 3/24/2007 12:36 PM
Another good blog:
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/sutton/2007/0323.html
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By cynabear on 3/25/2007 4:29 PM
Hey Kashman please be sure to post any reply that you get!!
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By RVAC106 on 3/25/2007 8:34 PM
Let's not lose track of the smoking gun.

http://videoplayer.thestreet.com/?clipId=1373_10329438&channel=Cramer+On+Demand&puc=&ts=1174686551750&bt=NS&bp=WIN&bst=FF&biec=true&format=flash&bitrate=300

Once upon a time, when I was a short, at my hedge fund..........

RVAC
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By bbhindyou on 3/26/2007 5:14 AM
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=297
Any questions about WHO these are built for?
If it's us V.S.them and we don't have weapons or 'containment camps' who's gonna win?
But don't worry be happy all is under control your government is here to protect you!
Just like the sec protects the individual small investor.
Excuse me I havta go puke now.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By bbhindyou on 3/26/2007 6:16 AM
Before anyone misunderstands my previous post's referal to weaponry ,
I feel the weapon we have to fear the most is the one we have seen the most used lately.
The control of the media.
Silence is the deadlist thing I know of.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By Herbster Video from his house on Cramer's Confessi on 3/26/2007 3:24 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/tvradio/player.asp?guid=%7BDDF27F4D-31A0-49DF-83D4-CF05B135A01E%7D
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By CeeJay on 4/4/2007 11:43 AM
Sorry Bob, but it sounds like you're more upset about Cramer getting credit for exposing the sham than you are about the sham!!! Come on, you've worked too hard, for too long to let something like "credit" distract from the cause. Fact is the Cramer video is bringing much needed attention to this problem. His admission of perpetrating the crime day after day is huge - not the fact that he did it, but the fact that he's putting it out there for all to hear, including us lowly investors! Instead of mocking his exposure let's harness it and use it for good!
Jim Cramer is a good man By Phil Saunders on 4/7/2007 10:57 AM
It was entirely my fault that I rejected all the wisdom of the shorts and persisted in pumping a worthless subprime mortgage lender when it was painfully obvious to anyone that the subprime market was collapsing.

I'll probably end up in jail for my role and my poor mother will be forced to live under a bridge and eat cat food because I even conned her into buying all that Novastar junk.

One last thing, I'd like to apologize to David Rocker and Marc Cohodes. Particularly to Marc for stalking his family. They are both honest and honorable people who short the same worthless stocks David Patch buys.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By danny on 3/21/2007 8:53 AM
of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses... This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...seizes...our executive officers...legislative bodies...schools...
courts...newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”
N.Y. Mayor, John Hylan

http://www.fdrs.org/in_our_country_the_federal_reserve_is_run_in_secret.html

When a magazine like Time runs a hard hitting investigative series, the answer is to buy them. Cede & Co. is the anonymous private partnership that actually owns your shares. You are the beneficial owner of your shares, but only by a contract with the actual owner. The actual owner gets voting, dividend and othe rights.

On October 12, 1971, Senator Metcalf was trying to figure out who owned Time Magazine and as part of that, he wanted to find out who Cede & Co. was. He couldn't get an answer. The best he could get was:

"Another of TIME's stockholders is reported as Cede & Company,
box 20, Bowling Green Station, N.Y. Persons who follow regulatory
matters will recall that Cede & Company shows up repeatedly on
ownership reports of power companies, airlines, and railroads,
and that not long ago the Interstate Commerce Commission expressed
mild interest in finding out who controlled all those Cede & Company
shares ..... "

"...The nominee list shows that Cede & Company is the
Stock Clearing Corporation, at 44 Broad Street. I would add that
the Stock Clearing Corporation is a wholly owned subsidiary of
the New York Stock Exchange. ..... I leave it to the would-be
Lieblings to ferret out press ownership and its implications."

For those who don't know it, the Wizard of Oz was about the banking system. OZ is ounce of gold. The man behind the curtain is the scumbag banker, a decrepit old man that we shouldn't be afraid of. We have all the power.

http://www.halexandria.org/dward313.htm


Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By bbhindyou on 3/21/2007 8:54 AM
Same story day in day out.
Nothing will change.when everything we have that they want is gone we will be kicked to the curb with the rest of the trash.
Yet we willingly give what they ask for every time.
SIGH.....
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By old duffer on 3/21/2007 9:04 AM
sent.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By mhelburn on 3/21/2007 8:55 AM
There are new measures of relevance on news stories. It now has nothing to do with content. It is more to do with the number of people who have become aware of the situation.

Those of us who saw the Cramer video months ago were surprised that he was so transparent about how to manipulate stock, not that it was being done. It wasn't newsworthy until a larger audience sees the evidence. I'm certain nothing will come of this because of the statute of limitations. Cramer knows that, too.

The confession of a stock manipulator will prove the ethics of his employers. They are all the same. Cramer is a great entertainer and CNBC just wants money. They are the mouthpiece for the manipulators.. per the comment that Cramer made...
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By x. trapnell on 3/21/2007 8:57 AM
The question in my mind: who sicced Boyd on Cramer, months after this video first appeared? Has JC gone too far in some of his calls and irritated a financial godfather? To me it sure looks as if Jimbo has worn out his welcome in certain quarters.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By bryedge on 3/21/2007 9:04 AM
Jim Cramer is a pig!

We have always known it, now Cramer finally admits it.

Further proof that the SEC is controlled by Wall Street, because they are certainly as smart as Cramer.

STOP FEEDING THE BEAST!!!

STOP ALL TRADING NOW!!!

Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By long_ostk on 3/21/2007 9:00 AM
Hey herbie and carol, are you the "bozos" your buddy Jimmy refers to in the video when he talks about leaking lies to the media? How does it feel to be a pawn in his game? LOL
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By browntrout on 3/21/2007 8:59 AM
I think there is more to this story. I don't think it was an accident that over five major media types plugged the Cramer Confession Video within hours of each with a video that has been "out there" for months. New York Post, Dealbook of the New York Times, Drudge, Reuters, Fox News and more. Why the coordinated attack and why now? Inquiring minds want to know. What purpose and deception are they playing on the American investor this time? Something stinks(as usual).
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By rvac106 on 3/21/2007 9:01 AM
Here’s how they scoop up our money with both hands:

They make tons of moolah on commissions on sales, whether there actually is a sale, or not. Whether a share of stock actually moves from one possession column to another, is immaterial. The commissions are paid, no matter what. Sometimes, there’s even more than the commission. For example, if a phantom share is sold, they not only get the commission on the sale, they get to keep the money for the share that they’ve sold, but never actually produced. That’s really nice. Especially if they can manipulate the company into the ground. That way, they never have to produce a share, and there’s no one around to question its existence.

Headline: Morgan Stanley profits soar, up 69%
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070321/earns_morgan_stanley.html?.v=8

If they can identify a segment of the financial world that is very profitable, they can then adjust their attack in such a way that they wind up actually taking over that segment, after having run it into the ground, to make the buying price ever so much more attractive.

Headline: New Century Financial likely to file for bankruptcy by month end; could facilitate sale
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/d9b233e4-d6e8-11db-98da-000b5df10621.html

Morgan Stanley, a warehouse lender for New Century, was previously rumored to be interested in potentially acquiring the company’s mortgage loan origination platform, according to a buysider. Morgan Stanley was also previously linked to talk of a potential bailout deal with large shareholder Greenlight Capital, said a second buysider.

So, identify a market segment you’d like to control, take some of the money you’ve created, use it to finance the targeted segment, pull your financing away at an opportune moment, cause a panic in the areas you’d like to take control of, wait till the panic drives the price into oblivion, then come in, and let it be known that you’re considering investing your stolen money in your destroyed company.

If someone does come after you, like, with a subpoena, you can then wipe your ass with it on national cable tv.

I sure wish I could turn my $.02 into hundreds of billions of dollars.

Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By AWS on 3/21/2007 9:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=708wDFX28lc

If you listen, you'll hear JC use the word "legal" and not "illegal" in his comments, because the trading that he describes is in fact not against the law. Painting the tape, moving price in illiquid conditions to set off stops - common and legal. Ever been in a Chicago trading pit?

All of this is short term stuff and the traders who do the tape painting are of course on the hook for any losses they generate.

Big boys taking P&L gains and hits without whining that life is unfair.

What's the problem?

Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By bobo on 3/21/2007 9:08 AM
AWS: Better go back and read up on 10(b)5. Also, listen to the tape again. Is it legal to disseminate false and misleading information in order to cause a stock price to go up or down? He discusses that. He also chats about doing the type of trading that bad guys have done for years, in conjunction with the dissemination of that false and misleading info - sounds precisely like a 10(b)5 violation, and if done by a group, like racketeering.

Watching the tape, did anyone notice that the host seemed like he was just playing along, sort of bemused, doing a bad acting job, and that Cramer seemed to have an agenda to discuss this?
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By AWS the lying asshole on 3/21/2007 10:21 AM
The part about spreading lies through "bozo" journalists to profit on a short is illegal. Jim admits to doing it, and everyone knows everybody else with friends in the press do it. Get used to the new paradigm in wall st ethics, it's going to roll heads at the SEC and put a lot bigger whales than Martha behind bars
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By long_ostk on 3/21/2007 10:22 AM
bobo, yes I noticed that but what I cant figure out is why cramer would be so stupid as to paint the picture for all to see how rigged the game is?
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By Both oars in the water on 3/21/2007 10:23 AM
Apparently an affiliate of the NY Post is coming out with a financial news station that will be competing with CNBC.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By bobo on 3/21/2007 10:41 AM
Both oars: Surely you can't mean that all this is just a flimsy excuse to attack CNBC's horribly biased coverage, in order to advance the interests of another sure-to-be biased network?

Does it really matter which liar you listen to for the latest lies on the market? Sort of, which hooker do you want to believe when she tells you she is a virgin...
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By mhatmccane on 3/21/2007 10:51 AM
Headline in LA Times Business Section - Front Page, above the fold:

"Home Equity could buoy the Economy"

"Borrowers who have built up stakes could
help keep the U.S. out of recession, experts say."

Has the whole world gone mad or is it just the business press?
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By Ken Lay on 3/21/2007 11:04 AM
Cramer is desperate for rating for both his TV show and especially his rag.com. If lies no longer get anybodys attention let's try the truth. What a concept. Maybe it's just a matter of time they think so why not let the cat's head out of the bag for a minute.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap By Peter on 3/22/2007 9:49 AM
Bob, bum rap or not, you've got to admit that this clip is doing a great job of bringing public attention to these issues, and a (sellable) spark of this nature has been needed for so long. What an excellent intro to the Bloomberg piece! It's all GOOD as far as I can see!
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By davidn on 3/22/2007 9:50 AM
Someone posted the theory that this is about pushing blame onto hedge funds that naked short and away from the custodians who don't bother owning real stock. These prime brokerages don't want to be left holding the bag - if they can push the problem onto tens of thousands of offshore domaciled hedge funds, that is in their best interest.

To me, the buck stops with the custodians - the DTCC, Clearsteam and the Prime Brokerages.

The hedge funds are like the guy who writes a bad check. It's wrong, but it is a smaller crime than the bank that has zero reserve to back deposits.

The small crime of naked shorting (the transaction) is dwarfed by the BIG crime of failing to deliver (the corruption in the back office).
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By mhatmccane on 3/21/2007 12:56 PM
My letter to Sen Feinstein now at Wall of letters.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By rtway on 3/22/2007 10:04 AM
In Chicago there is a talk show that comes on right after Rush Limbaugh and the host is Roe Conn. This is one of the most listened to shows in the U.S. for the time period. About a year ago he had Cramer on his show via the phone and of course Cramer was doing all THE BOO-YA BULLSHIT and touting his book. Now it is a year later and Roe Conn spent about a half hour on the Cramer film clip on you tube and how he admits to rigging the market and calling the SEC incompetent. I have been sending articles to Roe Conn for 2 years. He is a great talent and quite funny but can be dead serious when needed. His show is on WLS 890 AM 2 to 7 pm. I hope maybe I got through to him. Also did anybody catch where Cramer mentions calling Pisani when he wants to make phony news. He talks so fast it is hard to catch but it is there. I think Jimmy is in over his head and I hope the bastard can't swim.
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By rtway on 3/22/2007 10:26 AM
What ever happened to Charlie Gasparino. Has he said anything about the Bloomberg thing or Cramer's film?
Re: Jim Cramer is Getting A Bum Rap - And NASAA Files A Great Amicus Brief Lambasting the DTCC By phx on 3/22/2007 11:24 AM
What we have here is someone who is smarter than his buddies. Cramer has always been in front when it came to acting on things. he uses the info he gets Faster than his counterparts thats why he is who he is (Besides and obnoxious jerkoff) There is a storm brewing. Everyone is talking about it. everyone is waiting for it. but noone knows for sure when it will hit but when it does it will be fast and furious.

Cramer just made himself the safest person in the storm. He is the first to talk about it openly. He will be the first called in to talk more about it. And guess what hes a tv host he has millions of viewers/listeners. Face it as a witnerss he makes the whole thing sexy for the masses star embroiled in the whole evil trist money drama all of it.

Cramer is in the process of making himself the antihero in a New York Times Best Seller.

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