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The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross

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Posted by:   bobo 3/10/2007 12:11 PM

Thomas Pynchon. David Foster Wallace. Joe Nocera.

The wit and the wisdom.

History in the making, and we are all the richer for it.

After Joe's last interaction with me, we were left wondering what the elves would produce, what that special NY Times necromancy would conjur up. The anticipation was palpable. How could he top his railings against ipods, the searing insights about Canadian commercial practices, his provocative stance vis a vis barristas and coffee-culture leadership? It's not like one can just fall against one's keyboard and spew forth that sort of thing.

We had been hoping for something truly special, something that would live up to the vaunted Pulitzer finalist stature. Many didn't think he had it in him. They said he was tired, spent, punked, finished, just another pretty face in the big city.

Thankfully, they were wrong.

Joe, your latest bit, thinly disguised as a dead-serious "Byrne's crazy" article, with the marginally interesting twist of a gratuitous Bunny mention (apropos of nothing, like a cameo on a 50-Cent video) validates your reputation as an erudite wordsmith possessed of a keen intellect and rapier-like wit. I've been an admirer for some time, and have to say that it's appealing to see a master at work, effortlessly wielding chops like a samurai in a Chinese action film.

For those not in on the gag, Joe satirizes the typical dimwitted slop the NY financial press churns out, and does a LOL sendup of the usual cretinism.

Your whole column is stellar, enjoyable on a thematic, critical, and personal level, but I particularly admired the way you integrated a feigned studied ignorance of all evidence of a delivery failure crisis, with the laughable assertion that any failures were likely benign - not a financially driven fraud perpetrated by NY miscreants who take investor money and refuse to deliver the shares they were paid for. Certainly not that. More of an accidental thing. You know, the dog eating a billion or so shares.

Your inclusion of that critical bit of selective blindness (always mandatory in these things) in such an off-hand way gave the piece the necessary conviction early on.

It killed me dead. That you so perfectly captured the tone of the apologist, "Rhino? What rhino behind the couch?" screeds with your tongue so firmly planted in cheek is a tribute to your skill with the language.

For those unfamiliar with how these types of "Wacky Patty/there is no NSS problem" articles usually read, let's go to what you didn't explain (mirroring those articles' conspicuous defects) . Once the reader gets the joke, they'll better appreciate what you did here.

First, in keeping with these types of stories, you didn't explain how companies like Overstock can remain on the Reg SHO list for well over 400 days - actually, years - if this is all innocent. You didn't explain how Patrick and Dad could fail to receive any of the hundreds of thousands of shares they bought, for months, if this was all innocent. You didn't explain how groups like the US Chamber of Commerce could be demanding hearings on the NSS thing if it was all much ado about nothing. In point of fact, you explained nothing, and created something more like a hasty collage of half truth and half-baked arguments than anything reasoned - precisely like the efforts you are clearly mocking with such laser-like precision. On the surface, it all seemed rather sophomoric and disappointing, however I got the gag, and my self-promoting side is clearly delighted to be afforded so much coverage in your sterling pub, in the same breath as a man I have grown to respect no end - Patrick Byrne.

It's truly an inspired Mozart moment when you ignore that the largest organization of its kind in the world has publicly demanded Congressional hearings about NSS. That you left out this elephant in the room, which most by now know about, was a masterstroke of contretemps - ignore by omission what is obvious to everyone, allowing the reader to fill in the blanks, and perfectly parodying the dreary types of articles that have become the norm on the topic. Most couldn't have pulled it off. Then again, most haven't attained your lofty position at the pinnacle of the NY literary scene.

Let's take the important chunks of the column, and add my explanations and observations - that always seems to go over well with the big names in the NY press, who you so effortlessly jab here.

"Publication title: New York Times. (Late Edition (East Coast)). New York, N.Y.: Mar 10, 2007. pg. C.1

It was the last Monday in February, and another Utah legislative session was coming to a close. A group of lobbyists, legislators and state officials were meeting to hash out the merits of a controversial bill. Among those in the room was our old friend Patrick M. Byrne, the chief executive of Overstock.com, the struggling Internet retailer based in Salt Lake City.

Yes, dear reader, we are returning to Utah this week. You will perhaps recall that we last visited that great state in early summer. Our interest had been piqued by another piece of legislation, passed during a brief special session, that took aim at the practice of ''naked short selling.'' You will perhaps also recall that Mr. Byrne has been crusading for several years about the evils of naked short sellers, seeing something in the practice that few others see: a conspiracy to destroy upstanding companies like his own, and rob unsuspecting investors. "

"Few others see?" You mean like the US Chamber of Commerce and its millions of members? Again, funny stuff. But more than just funny - the essence of the absurdity is synthesized into just a few, deliberately ill-crafted sentences, highlighting what is conspicuously wrong with these pieces.

First, you perfectly capture the effete tone of these types of hatchet jobs, wherein the writers insult their readers' intelligence by postulating some never-never land, where nameless "others" don't consider taking a buyer's money and refusing to deliver the product purchased to be fraud. In that alternative universe, these "others" presumably view it as doing God's work. The reader is forced to ask whether the hundreds of letters at the SEC site, from virtually every segment of the population, which justifiably contemn the practice as fraud, contain some logical flaw only the author and his familiars see? The immediate follow-on being to question the veracity of the statement itself - how do we know "few" others see things as the authors routinely assert? What basis do we have for believing that claim, which conflicts with the statements of economists, academics, former SEC attorneys, CEOs of prominent companies, and many industry insiders? Joe skillfully causes one to pause, and ask oneself whether this is what passes for reasoning in NY these days - something dulling in the water, perchance, a chemical trick on the synapses?

To be able to impart all of the above with such ease while pretending to be serious is what separates the greats from the not. Read on:

"Shares of Overstock, for instance, have dropped from $76 to the mid-teens in a little more than two years. (Overstock closed yesterday at $17.51.) Could this be because the company has never come close to making money? (Last year, it lost $96.9 million.) Nah. Must be those rotten naked short sellers.

Never mind that most people on Wall Street, or most regulators, for that matter, don't believe that there is much naked short selling going on. (A typical short seller, who is betting that a stock is going to decline, borrows shares at a high price and then buys them when the price drops, pocketing the difference. A naked short seller, on the other hand, doesn't bother to borrow the shares within the allotted settlement period.)"

This bit is wondrous, as I know you are aware of Patrick and Dad's inability to get delivery of a single share for months. That knowledge of your awareness, that "we know you know" post-modern perspective seasons the hilarity like a rare spice, salting the preposterous with a dose of the inane.

I know you were likely burning to ask your purported sources what their explanation for Patrick and his father's inability to get delivery for months of a single share of the hundreds of thousands of shares they purchased was, but by playing that one straight, it worked better. You let the "unnamed sources'" lack of any credible alternative explanation sort of hang out there, underscoring its fundamental absurdity. And you rather artfully pretend to be oblivious to the FOIA data's exposure of the crisis level of the problem, and feign ignorance of the SIA spreadsheet's $63 billion of failure to delivers and receives as of Q2, 2006, just for NYSE member firms - again, an ignorance which is extremely unlikely for an icon of NY financial journalism, and thus the more entertaining for it.

You perfectly capture and balance the simpering tendency of your peers to discuss what they think most Wall Street choagies and their captured regulators "believe," (as opposed to the readily available hard data) against your craft's purported requirement that just facts be considered. By interjecting this bit of non-sequitor, we are again invited "behind the camera" and into the fun that is the making of a parody.  Sort of a, "why address the hard data when you can discuss beliefs and unsupported opinion" sendup of the countless other articles that do precisely that.

Art. Truly. Warhol has nothing on you.

"And never mind that the means by which Utah was going to stomp out naked short selling was highly technical -- revolving around something called ''failure to deliver''-- and that it was even questionable whether a large number of ''failures to deliver'' meant that naked short selling was the cause. The bill would have allowed Utah companies to discover who was failing to deliver their shares -- and then sue them for damages. That, of course, had Mr. Byrne licking his chops. Indeed, he was the driving force behind the original legislation."

That one had me blowing coffee through my nose. I mean, "highly technical?" I had to read that twice to fully appreciate the farce.

It's beyond good. By describing the bill's requirement that brokers report to the state the identities of those failing to deliver as being "highly technical," you skewer those like Carol who invariably pretend that a simple act of fraud is some unbelievably complex interaction. I mean, putting jam on bread must be akin to designing semiconductors in your book if that seems "technical," so I got the eye-rolling intent. Hopefully nobody is so dim as to believe you meant it. That's the only way this could backfire on you. But no way are the readers of the Times that provincial.

That you deliberately omit the obvious questions, "What then is the cause for the $63 billion of FTDs and FTRs we know from the SIA's own spreadsheet are the number, after netting hides 96% of the problem?" enables readers to frame the question themselves, which is much more effective. The reader then starts running the numbers, and that $63 billion starts sounding like it could be a trillion bucks or more - demanding that he ask, "What is causing all those real, hard dollars to be taken from buyers, and instead of stock being delivered, NOTHING IS? What is the culprit for this massive windfall for Wall Street's biggest names, which just so happens to rob American investors blind? Is it just an oopsie?"....."Ooops, I just sold another half a billion dollars of OSTK, which is impossible to borrow and has been for the last two years, and after collecting the money, I can't actually deliver a single share. I guess I'll have to keep the money and just "try" to find shares at some undisclosed time in the future, if at all. Meanwhile, I need a new Gulfstream and Feadship and châteaux in Provence. Jeez, I hate when I make that mistake, he he he...."

Again, hat's off for bringing the reader to that point, and creating the perfect environment to raise awareness, while demonstrating the obvious flaws in the pseudo-logic.

I have to say I loved the tone of the next bit in the column, which mis-describes the Utah bill, as well as Wall Street's ability to buy off or bully the Senator who introduced it. There's one really sweet quote from Bramble:

"Senator Bramble was clearly furious. He told The Associated Press that he now believed that Overstock's motives were ''highly suspect.'' He added: ''There are those who believe Overstock has been using the Legislature as a distraction against its own problems. It raises serious questions.''

Mr. Byrne, in turn, publicly called Senator Bramble ''a squish'' and a ''yellow belly.''"

Really rich stuff, that.

I mean, as you well know from our exchange, there are those who believe that the SIA's lobbyist's other large clients, the real estate lobby, showered Bramble with favors and business in a veiled and ostensibly successful attempt to buy his pulling the bill. A simple examination of the Senator's business over the last year would show whether that belief is correct or not, but you pretend that you apparently can't muster that sort of journalistic integrity and acumen. Pulling a Herb, they call it in the biz. Very inside. Wink wink.

Given your purported "struggle" with the bill's "technicality" it is no wonder, however I think you are stretching the reader's credulousness at this point. They will start to lose you here, as there is no way you could believably be that illogical and uninterested, thus they are being alerted this is an obvious put-on. I would have continued playing straight-man, staying in character, but then again, everyone's a critic. We both know that if anyone explores those beliefs about Bramble and the buying-off of the bill, that the Senator likely won't be celebrating that sunshine with quite the same enthusiasm. But it's your column, and that was the only area I would have changed. The rest is perfect as is.

"Needless to say, Utah no longer has a law to stop naked short selling. Though no one will say so publicly, the word is that Utah officials now feel they were snookered by the Overstock C.E.O. And that his behavior at that meeting further damaged his credibility. And that, even though he is one of the state's largest political donors, he is going to have a hard time ever getting the Legislature to take him seriously again. As Gary Weiss, the author of ''Wall Street Versus America'' and one of Mr. Byrne's most vocal critics, put it to me recently, ''We are watching, in real time, a guy in the midst of a meltdown.''

Ahh, a 'lilGW tout and sound bite - perfect, and a nice touch to ensure that all the notes get played. It seems like lately you can't have a good "Patrick's a dangerous wild-eyed crazy" piece without 'lilGW in the house. A guy publicly and convincingly accused of using sock puppets to tout his screeds, who has been shown to be working from DTCC computers by another website (don't know if that is accurate, but it sure explains a lot), and who also has your pretended astounding ability to ignore all data that indicates that FTDs are real, huge, and deliberate, gets his book touted by the "unbiased columnist" (again, apropos of nothing), and his wholly uninformed take broadcast as though gospel. That you were able to weave in this absurdity, as so many do lately, highlighted both the dearth of any credible sources to support the pro-NSS position, as well as the low station of those invariably trotted out to do so.

You perfectly conveyed the sense that it's almost as though all the coverage of the topic is scripted, and there's a small cast of characters who are required to bolster each others' credibility and views.

We both know that an industry whose continued viability is jeopardized by the exposure of a trillion dollars of delivery failures will spend whatever time and money is required to mount a propaganda campaign to denigrate those exposing its malfeasance. Getting that across to the reader without being obvious is a bit more tricky, and the hackneyed 'lilGW performance is a great vehicle to do so. I probably would have included something about the last similar crisis, the S&L debacle, where the thrift industry spent years of ink and dollars demonizing Ed Gray for sounding the alarm about the thievery in that industry, as being wholly unlike this episode, however that might have come off as heavy-handed and preachy. As would have any reminders of the physical assaults and character assassination leveled against the whistleblower in the mutual fund frontrunning scandal....I mean, the notion that would happen yet again, is just, uh...preposterous...let the reader put it together. Don't tell them, just lead them to the water. Nicely done.

"I think his whole crusade is in meltdown. True, the S.E.C. has proposed a few new rules about ''failures to deliver,'' but those rules were in the works well before the Utah legislation was passed. And the agency doesn't even really believe that the failures to deliver and naked short selling are particularly connected. Mr. Byrne's Internet ramblings have lost much of their ''oh my goodness'' factor, so they don't get the attention they once did. A Web site, antisocialmedia.net, which attacked critics of Mr. Byrne and Overstock, was exposed by an Internet sleuth as being run by an Overstock official. Recently, Overstock filed a ridiculous $3.5 billion suit against 10 big Wall Street firms, asserting that they were aiding and abetting the naked short sellers. He is becoming harder and harder to take seriously. I can't help thinking that there are a lot of people who must feel like Senator Bramble -- they once believed Patrick Byrne and now they're wondering why."

Ha ha ha. Absolutely brilliant."Ridiculous" suit? Nice touch - demanding that the reader ask, "What is ridiculous about it?" We both know that the suit contends that the prime brokers have colluded to generate massive delivery failures, in order to harm the company's share price, so unless you are privy to some data the rest of us aren't, we are forced to conclude that the suit is anything but ridiculous. If true, it will be a multi-billion dollar body blow from which countless similar suits will arise.

By framing it this way, you manage to highlight that many of your peers operate sort of like big tobacco's media stooges did - the usual roster of captured journalists parading their tired shtick long after its plausibility had vanished, and who always unerringly advanced the agenda that claims against cigarette manufacturers were specious. Now here, you lampoon 'lilGW by pretending to have that strident and peculiar penchant for ignoring mountains of data in favor of your own increasingly implausible views...and it plays beautifully. Insert claims like "there is no hard evidence linking smoking with lung cancer" and "many experts dispute whether cigarettes are addictive" with "many experts are unsure that naked short selling is a problem" and it's identical- which then has the reader asking what I suspect is your intended question: "Who is paying the check to get these guys to write what they write?" With big tobacco, they knew that once they lost a battle and coughed up billions, that it was over. It's pretty clear that same thought has occurred to Wall Street, hence all the hair pulling to brand the suit ridiculous and Byrne as a dangerous kook - which you perfectly expose as a rather transparent sham. 

Next, we have the obligatory "Short sellers are good for your bones and teeth" rant, wherein they are painted as victims of all these nasty companies who have been on the SHO list for years. And there's the laughable claim that short sellers have gone dark, which ignores the fact that short interest on the NYSE is approaching all time highs. Who is doing all that short selling if they have gone into hibernation, the reader is forced to ask himself? A beautiful takeoff on some of the recent "singing tractor workers" pieces from your peers, and one that most are sure to appreciate. I did.

BTW, thanks for the plugs. I loved the coverage - you can't buy this kind of thing, so it is not unappreciated. I don't have the money to take out full page ads for my site, but this is the next best thing:

"And then there's the Internet, where Mr. Byrne and his chief ally, a man who uses the pseudonym Bob O'Brien, go after anyone who disagrees with them. (To get a flavor of Mr. O'Brien's belligerent style, and his response to questions, check out his Web site, thesanitycheck.com, where he has posted a Q.& A. with me that took place this week.)

Mr. O'Brien is as fanatical about naked short selling as Mr. Byrne, but he also spends time on other message boards. For years, one of his favorite stocks has been NovaStar, the subprime lender that recently collapsed, which Mr. O'Brien has touted endlessly, while attacking anyone who disagreed. He once even went so far as to publish a thinly veiled threat aimed at the family of Marc Cohodes, who was at the time Mr. Rocker's partner. There are clearly people who stuck with NovaStar because of Mr. O'Brien -- and have lost a lot of money. Wouldn't they have been better off if they had been able to hear the bear view of NovaStar?"

Oh, the pain, the pain. Those poor investors, and billionaire hedge fund managers, all of whom have been victimized by fanatics and loons. If only those dangerous bad bunnies could be silenced, we would all be safer for it.

The supposed outrage, and the laughable premise that the "bear view" about NFI wasn't broadcast in the Wall Street Journal, Marketwatch, on CNBC, in the pages of Forbes, the NY Times, Barron's, and from every major and minor NY financial periodical, for years, and that Jim Cramer wasn't a vocal basher of the stock, for years....priceless. This echoes the Lapdog's piece, wherein my awesome and mysterious powers to silence the entire US financial system's media outlets is trumpeted as though even slightly plausible. I'm glad you had the column inches to include it - a nice giggle for those following the story forever.

I know that when you see your colleagues spending their time trying to construct a bridge upon this slender reed you have to wonder about their agendas, not to say their powers of reason, or skill as storytellers. I've also always thought that fiction can be harder than non for some. I'm with you on this one, and I'd counsel them to stick to the non until they gets the basics down a bit better. You have to make the story believable is the first rule of good fiction.

"There is one other important person who appears to have lost faith in Mr. Byrne lately. That's a man named John A. Fisher, a former executive at the old Hambrecht & Quist investment bank, who now runs his own boutique firm.

A few weeks ago, Mr. Fisher resigned from the Overstock board, saying that he could not go along with Mr. Byrne's decision to sue the big Wall Street firms. The Overstock board is now down to four directors, two of them insiders. In an S.E.C. filing, the company said it would work quickly to find some new independent directors.

So, Mr. Fisher, who is a former H&Q banker, and who is now a boutique banker, is against suing those he has to work with every day, and is likely dependent upon for cooperation. Huh. That is unexpected. Really. I can't for the life of me read between the lines on that one and figure it out. Hmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Joe. Shhhhhhh.

You had me at "technical."

All in all, nicely done. It's always a hoot to read one of your wry rib-ticklers. I wish you'd devote more of your time to launching these knee-slappers, and less to the purportedly straight coverage. In these dark times, we can always use a little levity to brighten our day.

Keep up the good work.

Copyright ©2007 Bob O'Brien
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Comments (37)
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By jfarn on 3/10/2007 4:39 PM
"All the News that's Fit to Print.....If Our
Correspondent's Agree with the Cause"


Mr. Nocera,

Your blatantly biased hack job on Patrick Byrne, OSTK,
naked short selling, and Bob O'Brien was really
something to read today. I am an avid Times reader
and have subscribed to your paper for many years. I
honestly expected more from someone of your caliber.
It was blatantly obvious from your prose that the
FTD/Naked Short selling-OSTK situation has become
personal for you.

I look forward to the revocation of the Grandfather
Clause to Reg. SHO. I think history will show that
some of what you allege to be a tad bit off base.
Many individuals including Harvey Pitt would not be so
dismissive of failing to deliver shares via the stock
borrow program. I hope to read future columns that
might be a bit more balanced from someone who is
mentioned with the word PULITZER.

Regards,

J. Farn
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By Lenofus on 3/10/2007 4:41 PM
I've read them all, and this truly was the worst of the worst. I've never seen such a piece of garbage in print, probably because they only give Roddy 800 words.

What an embarrassment. I hope this bastard loses his job as the naked shorters keep NYT on the SHO. Yes that is correct. The New York Times is on the SHO list.

Maybe if he's unemployed, he can have some empathy for the thousands who've lost theirs'.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By rtway on 3/11/2007 9:47 PM
Bobo,
What you have to grasp is that we have deteriorated so far that looking in the mirror and seeing a blatant con liar is a badge of honor and a feather in your cap and a trophy for the mantle.As far as the kids go they are weaned on corruption and lack of a civility. There god is a dollar bill and there measure of success is to emulate what their parents have done. The law is a speed bump in the road to tangible riches that they will never have enough time to enjoy. So the next measure of success is how many people they can con and denigrate.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By Take a Bite Out of Naked Short Selling on 3/12/2007 11:25 AM
What, no Sith Lord? These guys are slipping.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By ideamaned on 3/12/2007 4:39 PM
If that guy thinks naked short selling doesn't hurt, I lost $400,000 in Sedona stock value and was financially ruined. To recover more quickly, I abandoned all of my unsecured consumer debt, more than $50,000. I fought off debt collectors for 4 years until reaching the statute of limitations in my state. I didn't pay anybody anything. The debt collectors are gone now. It may take me 10 or 15 more years to recover. My life has definitely been impacted by naked short selling stock manipulation.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By clearthinker on 3/12/2007 4:41 PM
Haliburton moves to Dubai...

where will the manipulators go?
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By hwh on 3/12/2007 10:08 PM
Nocera has no ability to recognize the hyper-parochial nature of Dr. Byrne. Criminals never do. They view such"misguided" mentalities as out of touch with reality.

If Reality in a democracy is the criminal fleecing of innocents by the well heeled, then Patrick is out of touch. Of course that is assuming it is a democracy run by only the well heeled. In the American financial system this is the fact and Nocera is a paid for pawn of that establishment, thus making him a criminal by either ignorance, for which it is not a legal excuse, or knowingly promoting the nearly feudal system which is arising from the Land of Opportunity.

Patrick could have taken the company private from his own checkbook long ago and saved himself the ridicule, but is not his nature.

Maybe he, like so many lesser known advocates of a free market system is merely a glutton for punishment. Well, I have news for you.

We are idealists.

We have read the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, The "Act" of 32 it's enablers of 33, & 34.

We care about the ability of the entrepreneur to innove, accept the risks reasonably inherent in business, and rely on the government to enforce the rights granted us by the aforementioned legislation.

We also believe in addressing inequities by peaceful, lawful means, not by the return of the mafia-esque tactics of the lobbys powerful special interest groups that run rampant in our government at the highest levels.

So an idealistically raised kid who grows to be a man so parochial he makes me look like the original sinner, finds a calling to stand up to the powers that be and give hope to the masses he's seen stripped of their nest eggs, their life savings, forced back to work at mandatory retirement plus 10, in short, use his wealth and power to his own detriment in order to restore accountability to those vested with protecting those who cannot.

Nocera has chosen his side. He is but another who proudly sold out to help destroy yet another multitude of people who cannot defend themselves,

May he feel the cold hard clasp of the handcuffs on his wrist when his day to atone comes to fruition...hwh
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By rtway on 3/12/2007 10:09 PM
Is there anyway possible of getting prior shows of Cramer where he openly admits how the strategy of using bogus analysts reports and a strategy orchestrated by a band of short sellers to "torpedo" a stock into oblivion and therefore shaking out all the uneducated investors. These shows could be turned over to Grassley and Specter as well as a tape of the show where he trashes his SEC subpoena. I would think this would make for great entertainment at the next meeting and they could join in with the laughter that Jim uses as he explains how they game the system. He never stops laughing and smiling as he explains how the game is played. How much more could they ask for. Admission of corruption, comedy and the formula for destroying the markets for the little dumb ass American.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By rtway on 3/12/2007 10:11 PM
Come to think about it, if these tapes of prior Cramer shows are available it would be more than charitable to send a couple of copies to Chris Cox in case he loses the first copy. That way Grassley and Specter could ask for his comments and critique Jimmy's must miss useless show.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By gregcable2002 on 3/13/2007 4:55 AM
This may be why we get no where with the FTD issue when it comes to our government.I copied this from another board.Thanks Bob

The truth is that the FED member banks are the biggest naked shorters and use naked shorting as a means to move (control) stock prices. Most people know who GE is. But what most people don't know is that it has 10.28 billion shares. Any fool can look up the number of shares in short position, which is a small part of that 10.28 billion shares. There is no way of knowing how many of the 10.28 billion shares are in naked short position, but it is many times the listed short position. Most of the earnings made by the so called investment banksters (FED member banks) comes from naked shorting. Naked shorting is a simple process where an entity sells shares without borrowing them and replacing them with new shares at a cost that can be more or less then exchange traded stock. I use GE as an example because the FED has purchased and will continue to purchase those shares at a premium as a means to cash flow the company. Everybody here and many other forums keep saying that the FED prints money into existence. That is bullchit. There is only $796 billion in circulation in paper cash or coin form. No money enters into circulation in debt free form. The FED itself is the largest buyer of stock it naked shorts into existence. Without naked shorting GE stock would trade under $5.00 a share. Most pink sheet companies are little more then shell companies set up to milk investors of their cash into the hands of the FED, who then use those savings the investors lost to support the stocks like GE, who actually use its stock float to float the company. Most people don't realize that GE is little more then what Enron was. The Bush people moved most of Enron into ITERA, before they liquidated the stock. The biggest liquidation to come is the liquidation of Fannie and Freddie by the Bush administration within the next 10 to 90 days. With that liquidation will be the liquidation of real estate in the USA. It is just a matter of time where all real estate will be property of the USA, a corporate entity of the FED. We the people will still have the right to rent it, but that is it. Most of us are already there any way with our home equity ATM machine.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By gregcable2002 on 3/13/2007 4:59 AM
Reality sucks sometimes,but,we still need to keep our eyes wide open and defend what little freedoms we have left.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By bbhindyou on 3/13/2007 1:49 PM
Greg...
From paper stock certs to the deed on your home.
The individual will soon be allowed to own nothing in their own names.
Jim Cramer on how the market works By Kuma on 3/13/2007 11:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=708wDFX28lc
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By Wicked World on 3/10/2007 4:43 PM

So that's what the biggest, baddest tool in the miscreant's 'journalist' toolbox has to say?

Not impressed.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By rtway on 3/10/2007 4:44 PM
I think it would be a good idea for him to stay in touch with Dorfman and Callandra for tips on how to survive after they have exposed your end game and where to get a job. Of course you can always write a useless book full of facts that Betty Crocker could expose. In that case he better stay close to a real pro the ever lovable G.W.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By InTheKnow on 3/10/2007 4:45 PM
When a looney tune blog like "lilGW's" is permeated with the likes of posters like Tony Ryals then one has to be in the midst of a meltdown!

It's the Joe, Gary and Tony Comedy Hour!
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By Both oars in the water on 3/10/2007 5:04 PM
Speaking of people leaving their jobs in dissent, did Joe Nocera cover the mass exodus from the SEC a few years ago? You know, when Donaldson and Cutler to name a few quit. You know, right around the time the Senate Banking Committee had that lovely hearing and was confronted about naked short selling and the fact that one small company's stock was purchased in its entirety yet somehow continued to trade many times more than its float for some time after? You, know, right around the same time an economist Prof. Boni, who was hired by the SEC, reported that naked short selling is indeed a problem. Oh, that's right, nobody back then connected these dots. And that's just the public information. I'm sure Wes Christian and O'Quinn have storerooms of evidence.

Just another wild eyed conspiracy theory?

Anyone who has ever spoken with Patrick or heard him speak knows he's far from looney.

I for one can't wait for the day that the real people on the internet completely upstage the reporters and journalists who are "just following orders" from their higher-ups and covering their crony's rears. The stress cracks are already beginning to show.

This is not going to go away and now that the internet actually does afford us a little truly free press, I have no doubt that productive changes will continue to occur.

For anyone who might be discouraged by the oppostion, just remember, this whole thing started with just a handful of people who realized what was going on and decided to protest. Compare now to five years ago and you can see there has been steady progress made. Far fewer people are willing to go along with being duped by what they can now plainly see is a blatent scam.

It may be a tough fight and a long battle, but I no doubt that we will prevail.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By mfm1021 on 3/10/2007 2:53 PM
EB - Your brains, courage, tenacity? Might not be working. How about anarchy? I'm willing, in fact, anxious, to go to work. Shall we?
a seriously pissed off - mfm
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By old duffer on 3/11/2007 5:44 PM
The only prize this Joe hack deserves comes in .45 calibre.That is unless a rope and a oak is at hand.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By old duffer on 3/10/2007 5:13 PM
History shows that when it gets bad enough people will finally rise to demand justice, or they will get it themselves if the laws are ignored by the ones who are in charge.

Why is it that no one thinks that won't happen in this instance?
Using FTDs to our advantage By tommytoyz on 3/10/2007 5:32 PM
Maybe it is time to hold Wall Street up to its word and take advantage of their own system.

Here's the latest thinking on how to do it :

The DCSPlan will be a holding company. The holding company will start another brand new company to list on the Pink sheets or OTC BB. That way, right from the start, The DcsPlan retains 80-90% of the real shares in the new company. The DcsPlan will also have two accounts at a variety of brokers (one cash and one margin account). The DcsPlan then goes through the brokers to buy additional shares in the listed company - as many FTDs as the brokers will credit to our accounts and as we can afford. The more the better.

The DCS accounts will also acquire other securities in very small amounts, that pay monthly dividends, like Canroys or such, to establish that the brokers do pay the dividends into the accounts.

Once we have 300% in aggregate (as an example) of outstanding shares credited to our broker accounts, we convert the company into a REIT. It is then capitalized by having Real Estate sold into the REIT on an installment contract (monthly payments). The transferors lease the property back from the REIT and make monthly lease payments. However, lease payments are only due if the installment payments are received. Further, the sellers receive an option to buy back their properties for $1 anytime.

Since IRS rules require REITS to pass through at least 90% of earnings in the form of dividends, the REIT will pay out a monthly dividend derived from the properties.

Since the DCS has 300% (in this example) of outstanding shares in accounts, the DCS in aggregate will receive $3 for every $1 the REIT pays out.

The DCS makes the installment payments and expenses them from the DIVS or PIL money. The remainder is passed through to the DCS investors on a monthly basis.

Advantages:
1. Broker will pay for selling FTD securities to the DCS accounts.
2. DCS will lock brokers into their trades "against" the DCS, by never selling back to the brokers.
3. The REIT can keep adding properties that make lease payments, increasing the monthly dividend over time.
3. By retaining 90% or so of the real shares right from the start and also opening cash accounts, we know the exact moment when Wall Street breaks securities laws and to what extent. Something Wall Street firms won't even know.
4. DCS is not trading the securities after the company becomes a REIT, so DCS can not be accused of manipulating the share price. Being a successful business and doing all possible to enhance share holder value is the fiduciary duty of the REIT.
5. If brokers mis mark the cash payments in the cash accounts as DIV instead of PIL (and they probably will), they will be crossing swords with the IRS. This can be reported to the IRS after some time with very specific information and proof.
6. As as REIT, our company will have to pay out the lease earnings as dividends, regardless of what the SEC says, because the IRS requires it.
7. Any brokers wanting to play dirty or sue, or even the SIA, will have to contend with the fact that the brokers are coming into the fight with dirty hands already, as they are the ones selling unregistered securities to the DCS, violating the securities acts (FTDS are securities but not registered) and probably defrauding the IRS as well.
8. Losing even $1 million a month to DCS is only a small cost of doing business for Wall Street firms. That would be far cheaper than admitting in court that selling FTDs is not proper or that FTDs are not as valid as the real securities they credit to investor accounts in return for debiting the cash price from those accounts. Wall Street is not going to bring their own house down.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By Both oars in the water on 3/10/2007 8:39 PM
I think now is a good time to dust off the archives and bring out that SABEW conference where burying someone in ink was discussed. I think that's very relevant to the onslaught from parts of the press we are witnessing. Let them dance around this in the court of public opinion-

Maybe somene should send this to the fine folks on the Pulitzer committee so they don't risk tarnishing their reputation.

FROM THE SABEW CONFERENCE:

"The more they attack us, you know, we have barrels of ink and stacks of money, and all the resources in the World at our disposal, legal, and via our media, to crush them..."

Was this Khrushchev speaking to his massed troops, announcing that he would ride roughshod over all who dared oppose him?

Hitler stoking the fires of his army, as they prepared to go against the Soviet army?

Nope.

That is Dan Colarusso, New York Post. He was on a panel with Herb Greenberg and Joe Nocera, at the SABEW conference (Society of American Business Editors and Writers) speaking about how the media is being attacked by those mean old bloggers.

I'm not making this up.

http://www.thesanitycheck.com/BobsSanityCheckBlog/tabid/56/EntryID/262/Default.aspx



Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By I AM NOT A CROOK... on 3/10/2007 10:07 PM
Both Oars-- You are making it seem like Joe Nocera might have a pre-determined agenda here. Say it ain't so Joe!

I can't believe that a Pulitzer nominee from the NEW YORK TIMES would attempt to even think about writing articles designed to subvert the truth. Do you?

I mean just because Joe got all of the important facts wrong in his hatchet job about Patrick and Obrien, it probably was an innocent mistake, no? Just because he regurgitated the message board distortions of the truth by the bashers almost verbatim and signed his name as though it was his own, don't you think he could have had a series of innocent mistakes?

Let's ask the guy running the NEW YORK TIMES and ask him if JOE NOCERA is a CROOK. I know he will have the answers for us because the NEW YORK TIMES is LOSING GROUND HAND OVER FIST and any good Chairman such as Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr. will want to immediately correct the record if they(JOE) have erred. Look how the Boston Globe(owned by the NYT) suspended a "journalist" for just plagiarism. It sounds like that this could be not only plagiarism but also misstating the truth with a pre-determined agenda dictated by others that have a financial interest in subverting the truth.

Let's ask Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr. email-- publisher@nytimes.com He should know. Hey if he doesn't maybe his board knows.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By Michael Confoy on 3/11/2007 8:41 AM
Let's find out if these blog comments are from real people shall we? Let's hear more on what happened with NovaStar. Let's hear about how all this has anything to do with Overstock loosing $96 milion please. And let's see someone post real comments with their real names. How about that?
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By STRYKER-NY on 3/11/2007 7:04 AM
Mr Nocera....not to worry...nothing a little DISCOVERY!!!!!..wont mend.....then where will you and your fellow " jorrnalists " hide....ha ha ha!!!!!!
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By InTheKnow on 3/11/2007 8:48 AM
It dosen't say much when Joe Nocera aligns himself with the likes of Tony Ryals (what can one say?) and Sam Antar, a known felon extraordinaire!

Pulizter anyone?
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By rtway on 3/11/2007 8:51 AM
How about also we send SulzbergerJr. a letter of how we just unsubscribe from the NY Times and send a scad of letters to their advertisers saying we no longer need their products via the advice of one Joe "the bonehead" Nocera. And tell the republican national headquarters that Cox convinced you to vote for an independent and send not a dime in contributions. Give the money to the USO, someone that protects us.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By bobo on 3/11/2007 8:58 AM
Wow "Michael". I feel like a "real" person, but maybe the software is just programmed to make it seem that way. Who knows? As to your hijacking the topic of this blog, to NFI or OSTK "loosing" (sic) money, I'm afraid you don't get to do that. If you are curious about NFI you can go to the Investorvillage.com board and read up, or read my last blog. If you want to discuss OSTK's business prospects, I'm sure there are numerous blogs devoted to that sort of thing. Perhaps a remedial English blog might also be of some assistance? As well as some reading on identity theft and pretexting?

Thanks for stopping in and contributing your valuable insights about the topic at hand, namely the one and only Joe Nocera, and his high-spirited romp through the NY press' hypocritical treatment of the NSS issue and Patrick Byrne. Always nice to see the great thinkers coming out of the woodwork on a slow Sunday.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By A real person on 3/11/2007 9:25 AM
Michael Confoy,

Shall we hear from the CFO of the trendy and profitable company, Netflix, in a submission to the SEC asking for reform of shortselling regulations?

"The potential to manipulate the market in an individual company's equity remains heightened under the current regulatory regime. The ability of investors to artificially inflate supply by pumping "naked" short sell shares into the market can trigger or exacerbate a stock's volatility. Our stock has experienced a high degree of volatility despite our profitable growth. We believe that some of the volatility in our stock price may result from manipulative short selling practices. The data attached as Exhibit B suggests this relationship may exist."

http://sec.gov/comments/s7-12-06/s71206-269.pdf

Your logic seems to be that anyone complaining about NSS is whiner, attempting to displace blame for poor management onto market manipulation. Not only is this a disingenuous argument (aka the "short skirt" defense), but it fails in the case of companies such as Netflix.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By Ken Lay on 3/11/2007 9:26 AM
There seems to be a disconnect between the Business Editorial Slugs of NYT and upper management. Surely Upper Management at the paper must be starting to be concerned that they have been targeted for a take down. Everyone knows that the old line newspapers are on life support and now it appears that the hyenas are starting to circle while the victim NYT continues to concentrate on the bottom line ignoring and even championing the NNS right to continue thier nasty business. Perhaps the hedge funds will buy it when they get the price down to what they are willing to pay for it.Using the money that they are stealing from the shareholders. I think this is the best thing that could ever happen to them and might eventually cause them to have a change of heart.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By lenofus on 3/11/2007 11:27 AM
Well said, Mr. Lay. Exactly what is happening, with no credence given by Mssrs. Norris and Nocera. They serve different Masters
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By gregcable2002 on 3/11/2007 10:45 AM
If Joe had to print the trith momma hedge fund would wean him off the money tit and he would have to go on welfare,how can someone be so blind,oh,they get paid to be blind and distort the truth.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By gregcable2002 on 3/11/2007 11:31 AM
Hi Joe,sorry for the welfare comment,you guys have to print what they tell you so It really is not your fault,once we start getting fed from a certain hand there really is no way out,you bite the hand that feeds you you will get eaten,so,we just try to live with our past mistakes,didn't really see or think about the future when we took that first little morsel from the hand,did we?
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By Jimboyo on 3/11/2007 4:54 PM
Bloomberg TV: Special Report: Phantom Shares

Bloomberg Television premieres a half-hour Special Report called "Phantom Shares" on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 7:00pm, 9:00pm, and 10:00pm ET.

Millions of shares of stock are being sold that may not exist. How? Through an obscure trading strategy known as naked short selling. Bloomberg Television's Special Report hosted by Mike Schneider explains what the strategy is, how it's executed, which companies are targets, and what the SEC is trying to do to control it.

http://www.bloomberg.com/tvradio/tv/
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By cookie monster on 3/11/2007 5:43 PM
hackers get paid overtime on Sunday? busy busy busy....
now you did not really mean to send spam email from my account did you? bad bad bad boys and girls.....you are going to get in trouble for playing with fire.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By bbhindyou on 3/11/2007 4:55 PM
Chilling.
The U.S. economy is ,according to a recent news story , in danger of chilling,because there is too much regulation and protection for individual s and investors.
The ability to be sued is making some on wall street nervous and edgy.
They would much prefer a political climate where if your a little guy and get hurt financially,
do not pass go,
do not get to declare bankrupcy ,
lose all accumulated wealth
possibly go directly to jail.
Oops your bad judgment.
If your one of the big guys and get hurt financially ,
hey it's nobodys fault.
No need to buy in a bad position.
No one gets to look at the books on the deals,
too much accounting regulation as it is.
No one should be able to sue the big guys,
not naked shorted companys,
not investors who buy refco style bags,
not the little guy who's 401-k has been decimated.
It's going to make wall street chill.
Then the big boys on wall street will take the ball and go home.
No one will get to play.
So all these rules have to go and no one had better get any ideas of accusing wall street of cheating or asking for their money back when they lose just cause the games are rigged.
Everybody better just start chilling.
Or be left in the cold.
It's not rampant destruction of company value base by bloated unreal share floats.
It's not the stampeed's for the door of american company tring to get out of the way of the take down master's of wall street.
It's not the money leaving the market as more and more real people discover how unreal the world is where all their money has been disapearing.
IT'S TOO MUCH REGULATION.
right.
Chilling.
Re: The NY Times Runs A Scathing Parody Of The Obligatory "Wacky Patty" Dross By bobo on 3/11/2007 7:56 PM
What is sad is that they clearly believe that the nation is filled with slack-jawed mouth breathers, who are incapable of any logical thought. Otherwise they'd know that this has no chance of fooling anyone. Can you imagine having to make your living doing this? I mean, being a professional liar....how do you raise your kids? How do you look at yourself in the mirror?

They have to believe that everyone is brain dead. And maybe they are largely right. The old saying from the television game is, "Nobody ever went broke understimating the intelligence of the American public."

These types of articles are merely the symptom of a far more corrosive disease.

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