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Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering

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Posted by:   bobo 3/1/2007 8:04 AM

Utah repealed the sunshine bill that was passed by an overwhelming majority last year. That bill would have required Wall Street to report to state securities regulators the level of delivery failures, by company.

An unprecedented amount of lobbying went into halting its implementation, right from the get go. First, the SIA lied and said it would support the bill, but only if implementation was delayed until October - originally it was supposed to be July, 2006. Once that was changed and voted in, 27-1, the SIA then filed a lawsuit, and threatened the Governor with pulling businesses from the state. Why all this over a law that simply required Wall Street to open the kimono and allow the state to discover who is doing all the naked short selling in Utah, and what level that naked short selling is actually at?

Because the industry understands that it is a pervasive practice, the exposure of which would collapse the system. Out of one side of its mouth it argues that anyone claiming it is a massive problem is a loon and a kook, and on the other it does the full court press to avoid any exposure of the true level of the problem.

Basically, what happened is that the Senator who advanced the bill got cold feet, no doubt after receiving extraordinary attention from a lobbyist for the SIA. I'm quite sure that a thorough examination of the Senator's business fortunes would show a remarkable increase in his prospects over the last few quarters. A truly remarkable and inexplicable increase.

Be that as it may, this was a victory for the forces that have stalled any meaningful action to protect investors. The bad guys win this round. They were able to buy off an entire state, using a combination of threats and bucks. They convinced a governor that allowing the SEC, the federal regulator recently described by Senators Grassley and Specter as either incompetent or corrupt, to continue to do nothing to protect investors from the massive theft ring that is the delivery failure crisis, is preferable to protecting investors. It sent a clear message to me - just as in the S&L crisis, where whole groups of our elected officials were involved with the worst of the worst guys, and were taking their marching orders from them, now isn't much different.

My solution is to pull my money out of the US stock market. I've already done it. It will never return. And I am not alone. Most of my acquaintances have done so as well.

To continue to support a system that is beyond redemption is stupid. I've watched as the SEC violated every notion of decency and fair play, for years, and ignored its mandate to protect investors - preferring to enable racketeering by the industry it was set up to rein in. It legalized and grandfathered delivery failure on an epic scale, ignoring Congressional requirements for timely delivery in favor of allowing Wall Street to turn on the printing presses and print shares at will, refusing to deliver real ones for years. It sanctioned this theft of our retirement savings, and is running interference for the industry, delaying any reform for as long as humanly possible. The SEC website has hundreds of letters describing the problem and the solution - all ignored, as was the rule that any new regulations receive a public commentary period - Grandfathering never did, as an example. But so what? The rule of law is a sham, and the regs are whatever a few Wall Street cronies in Washington say are the regs. Suck it up, and smile, and keep pissing your retirement savings into this black hole of larceny.

We are constantly told we live in the best country in the world. One of the highest violent crime rates on the planet outside of a war zone, more of its population in prison than virtually anywhere else, with a higher effective tax burden (State, federal, sales, property, gas, energy, estate, etc. etc.) than most industrialized nations, living one on top of each other in wood stick and sheet-rock boxes that cost a million bucks, driving crappy cars that suck gas and break down more than the foreign competition on roads that are dilapidated in spite of mega budgets, with one of the largest drug problems in human history, boasting an education system that is the laughingstock of the globe, where the notion of freedom is celebrated with token lip service while cash is criminalized and tracking chips are put into our drivers licenses and passports, whose population is obese at unprecedented levels and whose health care is the most expensive on the planet while boasting some of the worst levels of service, where virtually everything that feels good is illegal or taxed into oblivion, and which believes that international law and rules of engagement are for everyone else - not us. Why not add that we have the most corrupt, opaque, obviously broken market system to the mix? Most nations in decline have had most of the above, throughout human history. They start out strong, achieve greatness, build empires, and then the human frailties that are immutable characteristics of our species get involved, and the whole thing unravels into inevitable decline.

We are watching it happen as we speak. This is how it looks as it occurs real time. The population becomes subjects rather than citizens, and a small circle of royalty, the military/industrial/financial complex that Eisenhower warned about, runs the country and steals the rest of it blind. Eventually, the decline turns the once proud super-power into the equivalent of Britain, usually during one or two generations. You are watching it live.

Utah wasn't a surprise. At all. One could say it was ordained. That a state would have the temerity to try to protect its companies from a small sliver of predators in NY couldn't possibly stand.

Welcome to the machine.

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Comments (44)
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By browntrout on 3/1/2007 9:04 AM
Utah will be erecting large billboards at their borders to announce:
CROOKS WELCOME HERE
ALL CITIZENS MUST BOW DOWN TO THE IMAGE OF A DOLLAR
SHEEP WELCOME TO FLEECING ZONE
FREE VASELINE
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bbhindyou on 3/1/2007 9:05 AM
Yes.
Exactly right.
Grab what you can carry,find a door and get ready to leave,if you can.
The party is going bad fast.
Somebodys going to get hurt, it's time to leave before it's you or me.
Where to bunny?
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By Glaucus on 3/2/2007 6:16 PM
Ah yes, first it was fractional reserve banking, and now it's fractional reserve trading. We've got the Mother of All Bubbles on our hands, and when it burst, as it must, there will be hell to pay.

In Gold We Trust.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By aint fair poker game on 3/2/2007 6:20 PM
wow about that "sean" input...
"...infamous President’s Working Group on Financial Markets was formed. Commonly known as the Plunge Protection Team (PPT), this little group is chaired by the Treasury Secretary (Hank Paulson), and includes the Fed chairman (Ben Bernanke), the SEC chairman (Christopher Cox), and the Commodities Futures Trading Commission chairman (Reuben Jeffrey III). "
if this is true, then there lies the source of the problem. these are people appointed to serve the public in public paid positions. we MUST know what they are doing & how they are doing it. they must be held accountable to those they have publically pledged to service.
and just how can they be stealthly participating in markets? they could be buying or selling against me. whose $ would they be using & I AM PAYING FOR THIS SERVICE!!! they cannot participate in the market without taking on the associated risk for themselves or their fiduciary clients.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bryedge on 3/2/2007 6:21 PM
BobO,

STOP ALL TRADING NOW! I have supported this approach for sometime and glad to see yours, as well.

The only "significant" thing an individual can really do to effect the criminals is to stop sending them money and encourage others to do the same.

I would say to those that are so quick to admonish the Utah Legislature, that you overlook a very important issue. Financing any lawsuit against the prime brokers requires huge amounts of money. Most legislatures would have an insurmountable problem just to educate the public so that they might understand the legislature's justification for raising taxes to finance a billion dollar (maybe more) lawsuit.

My recent interview of a lead investigator of the Louisiana AG's office, made it clear that the lawsuit against UBS alleging illegal trading of Sedona, would likely be dropped. Not because UBS was innocent, but because the AG's office simply did not have the funds to hire the army of lawyers and accountants it would take to move forward.

I feel certain that the Utah legislature realized, probably after serious threats from Morgan Stanley, that Utah was about to get stuck with a huge legal bill that they simply could not afford, as well.

Until Congress moves to expose these crimes NOTHING is going to happen. This always brings me back to question the integrity of every member, to specifically include Orin Hatch.

The prime brokers have all the advantage. They can swamp any lawsuit with enough paperwork to drag out discovery to the point of bankrupting their opponents. It is this reason alone that makes me skeptical of any success for Overstock.

Now there are attacks starting against Sen. Grassley, and everyone here has reason to believe that those attacks are originating from those that will be most effected by the exposure of Gary Aguirre. How long before Chuck "sees THEIR light" and exits the fight?

Those that claim the shorters win when we leave the markets should be highly suspect either for collusion or naivete.

I will leave you with another comment from the LA AG's investigator.

"You are more likely to be abducted by little green men than see any resolution to this problem. Every broker in this country is involved and Congress is well aware of the problem. They are simply scared to death of the inevitable economic meltdown that will occur if the scandal is finally brought front and center".

God Bless you all. Invest in things you can actually touch. If you cannot touch it, it is likely not yours.

PS Bobo, if you are interested in the rest of my research/experiment, drop me an email.
Derivatives Jobs By meto on 3/2/2007 6:23 PM
Very interesting developement.

Every day I get Google News alerts on the word "derivatives" and try to keep up in that growing world. However, yesterday and today, the vast majority of google news alerts are companies and brokerages putting out job listings. Suddenly their is a vast increase in demand for these people. How odd??
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By Tony on 3/2/2007 6:25 PM
Time to move to the London Stock Exchange. How about the Bahamas Stock Exchange? Right off the coast of Florida and better regulated than anything the United States of America has to offer. The ruling class always tends to lose sight of reality before the society collapses and throws them out.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By oldfeller on 3/4/2007 10:08 AM
Bonner`s "Empire of Debt" is a good read if you think history is simply repeating itself. I have a little more faith in the intelligence of the average joe. They can force the kids to sit in the schools year after year but they can no longer prevent them from learning.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bryedge on 3/4/2007 10:09 AM
"you nailed it bob",

Everything dreamed up by our corrupt politcians to control our lives was originally conspired by bankers (Royals) to "herd" you in their direction, to ever increase your dependence on them to be your "good shepard', as they move you closer to the "slaughter house".

How many people do you know that actually have a long established CASH savings account? I would bet few, and even those are held in banks.

By tying your investments/retirement to the stock markets, you are just a more convenient source of "meat". "Allowing" citizens to invest part of their Social Security into specified mutual funds, instead of shutting down the failed program, will only instill false autonomy and keep you " convenient".

By creating a "cashless" economy, that dependence is worsened, and dispicable business practices carried on by the likes of Bank of America giving credit cards to illegal aliens blurs the lines of citizenship, as do the total disregard to our open borders. Now, with no logical explanation, the Fed. gov't is allowing Mexican trucks virtually free reign throughout our country in the guise of a "pilot project" that, given history, will become permanent. This will facilitate the increase in the number of the "uninformed sheep" who will be setup like past Americans and herded toward the same slaughter house.
This cycle is historic and perpetrated by the same blood lines of Royals that throughout history have regularly and without conscience, fed on "meat".

If you succumb, your future is lost. If you fight, the future is most uncertain, but for me, it's better to be dead than to be a slave, and I fight to find a way out of these chains.
I have no idea what success will look like, or if it is even possible, but history is filled with examples of how bad it can be. We are not there, yet, but we are certainly on the same path. I believe everyone here, should have the purpose to inform those closest to them and as many others as possible. Bobo, Mark, Dave, etc have given a generous education of what each one of us needs to do and that is to spread the word. Don't timidly huddle in the same church and preach to the choir, but move out and find those that will accuse you of wearing a tinfoil hat, and attempt to educate.
Our greatest tool is the Internet, and just as the Gutenberg press ushered in the Renaisance, hopefully the Internet will create a similar rebirth .

STOP ALL TRADING NOW!

Get out of the markets and stop feeding these cannibals. Their lust for "meat" will not change, and like a hungry lion, when you run out of food to feed it, without conscience it will then eat you.

Excuse me, I now have to put my tinfoil hat back on and try to steal a few sheep from the herd.

Best of luck to all of you.

Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bryedge on 3/4/2007 10:11 AM
Sorry, BobO, I don't mean to clog your blog, but a friend just sent me a copy of Richard Russell's newsletter. The lead seemed worthy of sharing.

Excerpt
Richard Russell's Remarks
March 2, 2007


"March 2, 2007 -- March 2 (Bloomberg) -- Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Merrill Lynch & Co. and Morgan Stanley, which earned a record $24.5 billion in 2006, suddenly have become so speculative that their own traders are valuing the three biggest securities firms as barely more creditworthy than junk bonds. Prices for credit-default swaps linked to the bonds of the New York investment banks this week traded at levels that equate to debt ratings of Baa2, according to Moody's Investors Service. For Goldman, Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch & Co., that's five levels below the actual Aa3 rating on their senior unsecured notes and two steps above non-investment grade, or junk.

Russell Comment --You want to make the big billions, then you have to take the big risks. And when you take the big risks, your credit rating may hit the skids.

Second Russell Comment: I see a rush for cash -- it's happening in every area of the economy including stocks. We're now seeing the other side of liquidity -- it's called the DASH for CASH.

Third Russell Comment -- Today both the Dow (and the S&P 500) closed below their December lows. Not good, not good at all."
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By old duffer on 3/4/2007 10:12 AM
Bob, keep up the good fight!

The whole thing with crruption and greed is even bigger then what you know. A book which may not seem connected untill you finish it and connect the dots to see how big all this really is.

May I suggest the book titled:

The Money and the Power-The Making of Las Vegas and its Hold on America.

by Sally Denton & Roger Morris, publisher Vintage

This one will open you eyes by the time you finish it.

Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By kevin on 3/4/2007 10:13 AM
Cynabear, your story sounds interesting. Who were the members of the cabal? What was your father's experience?
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By Sean on 3/4/2007 10:14 AM
Last week the Dow lost about 700 points or close to a trillion dollars and in spite of all the experts blaming China and Hilary Clinton and Alan Greenspan we still don't know why this dramatic event (s)took place. So here is my question again. Where did all that money go? On Tuesday 2.4 billion shares traded of this only 24 mill were buys 2.375 billion in sells. Do you think somebody knew something.? I do. And I'm not that bright. Any thoughts anyone?
Unreal! By Victor on 3/4/2007 10:16 AM
This is unreal!

Bobo is Leo Wanta real? Have you heard of Nesara? Is this secret society David Icke/Alex Jones NWO stuff? Have you watched David Icke or Alex Jones on youtube? DO IT!

Serious, do you know or speculate?
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By InTheKNow on 3/4/2007 10:20 AM
The people I talk to feel that the states are backing away because the SEC has convinced them that they will actually do something about the problem.

I think some people have forgotten the battle cry.

SETTLE THE TRADES or SETTLE IN JAIL!
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bobo on 3/4/2007 2:49 PM
An interesting thing that happened on the internet chat rooms I frequent is that when I indicated that I am out of the market, never to return, a host of the bashers immediately started attacking that decision - almost as though they have a vested interest in keeping everyone in the game, even as they bash individual stocks.

Again, my perspective is that things changed materially over the last 5 or 6 years, as hedge funds dominated trading, and prime brokers became hedge funds themselves. The normally larcenous market went into hyper-larceny mode, when it realized that it never had to deliver the stock for which it was being paid. Nobody was going to make anyone deliver - not the SEC, not the DTCC, not the other culpable members of the prime broker trading cartel. So now they could just get money for nothing - as long as they could maintain a pretense of fair and honest markets.

The internet and FOIA data has exposed that lie. So I now know enough to not want to hand my money to a thieving lying thug who is giving me nothing in return. The industry will do its best to simultaneously claim it isn't so, even as they fight tooth and nail to keep any info on how bad it is secret.

Not for me. I will be investing in international real estate, and other hard asset classes where I've done pretty well. I will not be playing a rigged game anymore. I'm done with that. Which means I will probably wind up with a lot more money in 5 years than if I had kept playing.

There's a great article in the NYT today about how Wall Street has gone back and revised history, chaning analyst calls retroactively, to make the investment returns seem like they would have been higher. That is called lying and cheating. And it is standard procedure on Wall Street, because they have to keep you believing that they are the best deal in town, if not the only game in town.

Here's the newsflash. They aren't. Not even close.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By thelimeyone on 3/4/2007 9:40 PM
I hear the rally call "get out of the markets" & it's wrong. this is the market reform movement & it's time you all stop running away from the problem & stand your ground. unfortunately this blog has become permeated with a embittered cynicism that starts at the top. the negative premise of "the market is hopelessly corrupt therefore get bout cuts no ice with me. your all very good at highlighting the problems but i dont hear much on any possible solutions. right now you are just playing into the hands of those you despise becase your actions will ensure the self fulfilling prophesy of market meltdown. is 2007 any worse than 1929?.we survived that & we can survive again. back then we were not so informed as to what was going on as we are now, thanks to the internet. whatever small weapon we have in our arsenal we must use it. if you look at history nearly all battles were won based on good leadership & technological advantage. we have the technological advantage, what we need now is good leadership. the kind that inspires not depresses. we have a duty as the people in the know to work out the solution, otherwise we have nothing to offer anybody. so whats it going to be? decide to make a change for the better or wallow in hopelessness? time to make a stand people & believe in your purpose, nothing less is going to do it. gotta keep chipping away, results will follow, dont know when. we must believe we will prevail for it to happen, otherwise there is simply no reason to be here. tlo.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By davidn on 3/4/2007 9:41 PM
I still trade in the market, but I don't trade on Mondays. If everyone went on strike on Mondays, their volume would drop 20% (hedge funds can only trade if we suckers are on the other side of it). That's 20% less commissions for Wall Street.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bobo on 3/4/2007 9:56 PM
Thelimeyone:

So help me understand this - I have proposed the solution, which is settle the trades as the 1934 Act mandates. That isn't being done. If the trades aren't being settled, then you are buying chits the brokers can create in infinite quantities, and by definition, you lose. So you believe we should all keep doing that, while we sing kumbaya and put on a happy, upbeat face? We should make them stronger by paying our lifeblood into their provably corrupt machine while we become weaker, all the while trying to reform the system? How about we reform the markets from a position of strength, rather than staring up at the crooks from the dinner plate, where we are the main course?

In case you don't remember, 1929 didn't end well. Many didn't survive that period. Most lost everything. Except the crooks on Wall Street, who are largely the same firms who are involved in the crookery today. They did well, by and large.

I believe there is only one way to clean up the markets. To actually clean them up. Not to hope, and posture, and repeat upbeat positive thinking mantras, or to focus on the good. We are being robbed blind by parasites whose only interest is in ripping us off. They have bought off the regulator and they own the system. The only way they will do anything remotely honest is at gunpoint or from multi-billion jury awards. Period.

The papers are carrying a report about Moody's upping the credit rating of the large Wall Street banks to their highest rating because they are too large to fail - in other words, the government, no, we taxpayers, will pick up the chit when they are done stealing a trillion or two, and their brazen disregard for risk catches up with them. We will pay, as we did in the S&L crisis.

Now, I have advocated and supported lawsuits targeting the miscreants and the SEC. I have written long letters proposing in-depth changes that need to be made in order for the markets to have even a semblance of honesty. You can view them at the SEC website. With all due respect, what precisely have you done, and where can we view your body of important work?

When you have a system that is so badly compromised that there is no hope of fair play, why on earth would you put a dime into that system?

Why?

Work to change it? You bet. But give the thieves your cash while they laugh at your efforts?

Please.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By Sean on 3/8/2007 9:57 PM
Bobo, somewhere along the line Karma will catch up with these people. Too many hardworking americans are being robbed to fatten the pockets of the ultra-wealthy. The shift of wealth started last week and will continue for weeks to come. What goes around comes around.. you watch. Yours and Patrick's and others efforts have not been in vain. I believe that the wrath that is about to be unleashed will be of unfathomed proportions never even imagined. as my Mom always said and still does God does not sleep!! These thieves will be brought to justice one way or the other.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By to ranger captn on 3/8/2007 1:15 PM
"They are going to be able to crush stocks in the future using ETF's rather then naked shorting. Just the way I see it..."

i appreciate you all sharing your wit & wisdom. we all get to smartin up because of that. so could you please explain a bit more about shorting with ETFs instead naked shorting stocks. yes, i know you can short ETFs. but isn't there still the pretense of a contract that says you will have to buy ETF back? is the gimmick that the stock holdings mite change in the meantime & you wont have to cover specific stocks sold out in the meantime.
if so, how do they make that a sure thing. how would they know which stocks are to be sold. do they get inside info from fund managers. if so, WOW. in my 401K mutual funds, I cant even get up-to-date info on the funds's holdings & I own the darn thing?
please,captain... tell us more.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By Sean on 3/8/2007 10:14 PM
This is what we all need to do!!

Brower Piven Announces Class Action Lawsuit on Behalf of Sellers of Fairfax Financial Holdings Limited Against Various Hedge Funds -- FFH
Market Wire - March 01, 2007 8:41 PM ET


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The law firm of Brower Piven, A Professional Corporation, today announced that a securities class action was commenced on behalf of shareholders who sold the common stock of Fairfax Financial Holdings Limited (NYSE: FFH) between December 18, 2002 and July 25, 2006, inclusive (the "Class Period").

The case is pending in the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey. The complaint filed in this case alleges a massive, illegal stock market manipulation scheme that has targeted and severely harmed shareholders of Fairfax, and has resulted in immense ill-gotten profits for defendants S.A.C. Capital, Exis Capital, Third Point, Rocker Partners and other extremely powerful hedge funds. The complaint filed in the case further alleges that Defendants launched a manipulation scheme which was an abusive short selling strategy coupled with a public relations campaign full of false and misleading statements about Fairfax, its executives, its business, and its common stock price designed to drive down the price of Fairfax stock.

No class has yet been certified in the above action. If you are a member of the proposed class, you may retain counsel of your choice, and you may ask the court to be appointed as lead plaintiff in the case no later than April 9, 2007. In order to serve as a lead plaintiff, you must meet certain legal requirements. To be a member of the proposed class you need not take any action at this time.

If you sold shares of Fairfax Financial Holdings Limited during the Class Period indicated and want to discuss your legal rights, you may e-mail or call Brower Piven, who will, without obligation or cost to you, attempt to answer your questions. David Brower and Charles Piven have combined experience in securities and class action litigation of over 40 years. You may contact Brower Piven at The World Trade Center-Baltimore, 401 East Pratt Street, Suite 2525, Baltimore, Maryland 21202, by email at hoffman@browerpiven.com or by calling 410/332-0030.

CONTACT:
Brower Piven, A Professional Corporation
Baltimore, Maryland
Charles J. Piven
410/332-0030
Contact via http://www.marketwire.com/mw/emailprcntct?id=BC2A35B9DC5B7755


SOURCE: Brower Piven, A Professional Corporation

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Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By original scent on 3/1/2007 9:59 AM
It is comments like these that play right into the short game.
Perhaps you do not understand everything going on now and you are bitter because someone you trusted disappointed you and caused pain.
I think we do have less than 5% honest that will get to
the bottom of all of the FRAUD.
I do not think it is wise to fall into the panic attack short plan, that is the goal.

Brush yourself off and get back on the horse.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bobo on 3/1/2007 12:08 PM
Original Scent:

Huh? The short attack plan? Please. I mean, really. Please. The US market system has an unknown but presumably massive counterfeit share problem, all the prime brokers appear to be in on it, the SEC picks off nickle and dime guys as tokens while the kingpins walk, the SIA buys off anyone in their way, and many of the shares trading in a lot of the companies out there don't exist, and are merely delivery refusals parading as real transactions.....and that is a short attack strategy? Are you delusional? It's a great one if true - co-opting the entire US financial system, driving all IPO activity offshore, causing massive dislocations in companies like OSTK while continuing to NSS with impunity....

Guess what? The horse is going elsewhere. Anyone with a dime in the US markets at this point is a cretin or delusional. If you can't verify that what you are buying is anything more than air, with no product ever delivered, and you keep paying your money for that non-existent product, all in the hopes that you can be different and win against the guys that own the casino.......you are delusional.

They are taking your money, and refusing to deliver your stock. They are lying to you. Any lawmaker who tries to expose it is bought off. Figure this out. It isn't hard. The thieves are now in full control of the system, just as they were in the S&L crisis. Many of the same thieves, incidentally. So why should we pretend that crisis didn't happen, or that this one will end well?
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By searrows on 3/1/2007 11:30 AM
The only thing you left out in this one was that hedge funds are allowed to operate in our markets from offshore laundering hundreds of billions of dollars for our enemies who in turn are building bombs to kill our youth in Iraq. This is as true as all the mexicans daily pouring across our borders at will. If you don't protect your borders both real and financial then you have no country.
If you don't have your money in our markets then whose do you think are run appropriatly in keeping with the rule of law?
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By particleswaves on 3/1/2007 11:31 AM
So what the hell is it about money and power that corrupts nearly everyone who has an opportunity to grab a bundle of both? The super terrorists in this world (probably not more than a few hundred) are the near-omnipotent money changers who cravenly dice and drain the true wealth of country after country. Our feckless Congress and compromised “regulators” are aiding and abetting world-wide economic fraud. I truly fear for our country in particular and for the world in general. Human nature has turned out to be not so human.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bobo on 3/1/2007 11:39 AM
It's actually pretty simple - those that control the money, control the country. That has been true for hundreds of years. When the royalist model was overthrown, and democracies/republics/communist/socialist regimes supplanted them, those new forms of government still needed to pay to feed the population the next day, and to buy ammo for the guns, etc. Thus regardless of the form of government or the national borders, the one thing that never changed is the requirement for bankers to manage the cash. That hasn't changed, and they know no national allegiance.

As to what markets are more honest, that is sort of like asking which hookers lie the least, or which junkie is the most honest and trustworthy. It is the same cast of characters globally - the quaint notion of geographically-centric markets went out the window 20 years ago.

I won't be investing in markets anymore. I will be doing hard assets - real estate, commodities, collectibles. I've seen quadruple appreciation on several investments over the last 3 or 4 years, and doubles on much of the real estate. Trick is always in buying right. By exiting the markets, I feel much more confident of retaining my funds and seeing growth in environments that are much more stable and predictable than the US market system.

But hey, if you think you can beat the odds, knock yourself out. But if you understand at a comprehensive level how our markets work, you will be like most of the experts I've met - they don't have anything in the markets. They know too much.

And now I guess I do too.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By hear LOUD footsteps on 3/1/2007 11:57 AM
A UBS AG executive, a former Morgan Stanley compliance officer and 11 others were charged with participating in insider trading and bribery schemes involving hedge funds that netted $8 million.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?

pid=20601103&sid=a1ai8ubLA2R4&refer=news
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bobo on 3/1/2007 12:06 PM
Loud Footsteps: Those guys must have lacked the "juice" to get it all overlooked, or at least delayed until the statute had run out. Sort of how grandfathering eliminated any recourse because of the statute running out while the unlawful grandfathering ran out the clock.

I always enjoy how the SEC plays squash the tiny guys while the big guys make off with billions. $8 million is jet fuel budget for many of the better hedge fund managers.

Great system. We can all sleep well now that all the criminals on Wall Street have been arrested.

But don't try to pass a law that would show billions and billions of dollars of delivery failures, deliberately executed, to destroy a company's market cap. Tut tut. That would increase costs and whatnot. Can you imagine how much it would cost to actually buy and deliver the shares you pocketed the money for? Please.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By rtway on 3/1/2007 1:03 PM
In answer to LOUD footsteps,
A crack FBI team would pray for an opportunity like this. You could make a choir out of this scenario, everybody would be throwing one another under the bus. Right now the powers to be are in damage control and this will probably be the beginning of the end of this story.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By InTheKnow on 3/2/2007 12:37 AM
Bobo are you conceeding defeat and closing up this blog or are you going to continue the fight?
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By rangercapt on 3/2/2007 12:38 AM
BoBo, you should like you are done. I agree with your thoughts and have some empathy for your plight. I do not however, think you understand the bigger picture. I have been telling you over and over again that until a complete break down occurs and a massive year long recession is upon things are not going to change. It is the reason we have Republicans and Democrats. It used to be about the classes and masses but the Republicans have been in complete power for so long that you could have predicted the massive transfer of wealth. Republicans won 10 years ago they are getting all they can get before the tide turns and the Democrats take over the spend 10 years taking back what the Republicans won. It is a game, a big game and the stakes are real. Until there is a complete break down of the markets you have to do what big money is doing. I agree with you that big money is manipulating the markets via short selling. They are moving from short selling shares to using the ETF's as a way to make money on a short position. They can short thte ETF's and use them to drive the stock down rather then NAKED shorting in the future. Big money agrees with you that naked shorting is bad but until they can replace it with something else it is what it is. The introduction of ETF's is the solution to shorting stock that cannot be borrowed. They are going to create a whole new market using ETF's. I stated last year that some of you folks should study ETF's and you would understand what is going on. Lots of good information is here put it to use and learn to short a stock and then short the ETF when the big money does. They are going to be able to crush stocks in the future using ETF's rather then naked shorting. Just the way I see it. Profit from your knowledge and use the money to fight your fight, but why sit around and gripe about something you cannot change.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By Jeremiah 9:24 on 3/2/2007 12:39 AM
The Wall Street scum won this battle, but they have not won the war. If politicians and federal regulators were our only soldiers, this war and America as a whole would certainly be doomed. The State securities regulators, the US Chamber of Commerce, and more importantly the trial lawyers are a far more formidable group. Not to mention the growing horde of individuals like us who are becoming informed on these crimes.

I have to admit I was surprised at the lack of integrity and reproductive organs among the Utah legislature and Utah's governor. For all the big talk on 'protecting Utah citizens' they were so easily purchased or cowed. Oh, well.

Must agree with BobO, though. I am very close to getting out of the U.S. capital markets altogether and not coming back. There are crooks everywhere, but Wall Street is hopeless. If Buffet were younger I'd consider putting it all in Berhshire Hathaway shares, but....
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By kondratiev on 3/2/2007 12:40 AM
We don't have government money, but some countries do.

Scenario:

Larry has $50 government money and he deposits it at National Bank, then writes a check to Sally who deposits it at Main Bank.

Tony has $50 government money and he deposits it at Main Bank, then writes a check to Suzy who deposits it at National Bank.

Since National owes Main $50 and Main owes National $50, they agree it nets to zero and they don't owe each other anything.

Situation:

Suzy and Donny each have $50 on deposit, totalling $100
The banks each have $50 on reserve, allowing them to lend out $500 to Harry and $500 to Sarah based on a 10% reserve.

Now there is:

$1,100 in the system, even though there is only $50 of real government money backing that $1,100.

The system needs ever increasing levels of borrowing as only the priniciple is ever created. The interest has to come from inflating the money supply. At the end, when the population stops borrowing even when interest rates go to zero, you need a war to create artificial government borrowing.

Finally, there is collapse, bankruptcies and renewal in an effective rollback.
___

I think the scoundrels that designed the banking system tried to apply the same to the brokerage industry. Using netting and lending what they don't own, they want to treat shares as a fungible fiat currency (where pinksheetco and IBM are treated as equivalents) then inflate the float for their own benefit.

The population WILL come to understand how this works and they WILL stop it. Most people now now the Federal Reserve is privately owned. It won't take long before they know most shares are claimed by more than one person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondratiev_wave
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By ted on 3/2/2007 12:40 AM
EB, you're out of the market, I hope that doesn't mean you are giving up the fight?

(PS: Real Estate may not be the safest place to hide out.)
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By cynabear on 3/2/2007 12:41 AM
I have told my family story before....my father was a witness to WS corruption 40 years ago...he was invited into the cabal of control...he declined....it frightened him and he began his campaign to warn anyone who would listen...he was labeled a conspiracy theorist.nut/ a lunatic/ delusional/ his frinds drifted away...they were mostly cabla related...his clients, many were cabla participants... began to drift away and he was left penniless....i thought this time there was a chance it would be different...it isn't,,,,as soon as i can recover from the nfi debacle...i too am out of here...good night and good luck...
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By MeToo on 3/2/2007 12:42 AM
I have believed for a long time the small guy cannot win on wall street, simply because they will never command the power of hedge funds and large institutions.

Treasuries and real estate with a very long perspective do me fine.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By oldfeller on 3/2/2007 12:43 AM
I can hear Warren Buffet grinning. Buy when everyone else is fearful, when the blood is in the streets. It is very hard to find a pink sheet or otcbb stock right now that is not 90% off it`s high of the last 52 weeks. The volume went away with the prices over time as well. Most people have simply given up. So basically there is almost nothing left to steal from those markets. The crooks know this. And they know they can easily attract buyers simply by reversing the direction. Start running them up and watch the suckers money pour back in. Make a couple announcements that everything is fixed and it will be different this time. When people see the prices going up they will not care if the shares are real or not, they wiill come back to play.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By sean on 3/2/2007 12:43 AM
Just something I read on a message board that I wanted to share with you.

Sparky's Take on America's Rigged Markets:

Business schools coast to coast teach their Finance & Investments students very early on that US Treasury Securities (T-Bills, T-Notes, & T-Bonds) are somewhat of a sacred debt instrument; in fact, in most risk-return analysis instruction, Treasury Securities are always used as a benchmark to identify “risk-free” rates.

And when you consider that Treasuries are supposedly guaranteed by the Good Faith of the US government, which has the power to tax in order to deliver on its promise; that they pay interest quarterly or semi-annually, interest which is exempt from state tax in most states; and that there’s always tons and tons of liquidity, so that one may always sell quickly without influencing the overall markets; it’s hard to argue that Treasuries do not deserve this worshipped status.

Moreover, since the government certainly would not pay interest on a counterfeit Treasury Security, one would think it’s safe to assume that Treasuries could never be naked shorted the way equities so regularly are; and that Treasuries would thus be far less prone to price manipulation.

Well in my humble opinion, Treasury Securities lost their can’t-be-manipulated status way back in 1988 when, at the urging of the Reagan Administration, the infamous President’s Working Group on Financial Markets was formed. Commonly known as the Plunge Protection Team (PPT), this little group is chaired by the Treasury Secretary (Hank Paulson), and includes the Fed chairman (Ben Bernanke), the SEC chairman (Christopher Cox), and the Commodities Futures Trading Commission chairman (Reuben Jeffrey III).

And while the PPT was initially formed in response to a 22.6% 508-point plunge the DJIA underwent on Oct 19, 1987; it didn’t really get significantly involved in any major form of market manipulation until a full decade later when, as you may recall, the huge hedge fund called Long Term Capital Management (LTCM) lost over $ 4.5 billion in less than four months. That swift, hardly-publicized, and costly bailout by a greasy assortment of Fed Member banks and Prime Brokers was, IMO, an admission way back then by the PPT that the country’s markets were ripe with systemic risk.

And this is also my opinion, but the way the PPT rigged the equity markets then, 19 years ago, was by literally shorting Treasury Securities, just as I believe they are doing right now. Now why would the PPT do this, one might ask? Very simple: Combined, the equity, fixed-income, commodities, and currency exchanges have become simply too huge, and far too leveraged, for the PPT to manipulate without at the same time running the very real risk of forever losing billions and billions of dollars. So rather of even trying to influence these markets with artificial buy orders that could easily be offset by massive sell orders, IMHO the PPT is instead manipulating the Treasury market; this to create the illusion that little, if any, money is flowing out of equities and into Treasuries.

In fact, by heavily shorting Treasuries, the PPT is trying to make it appear that the huge supply of paper available today is because fund managers are selling bonds in anticipation of jumping into other markets – Ye sure!

What if you were a fund manager who just wisely dumped a million shares of Microsoft at $ 28 earlier today; are you going to leave $ 28 million sitting in a non-interest-bearing account for a few days until the markets stabilize and you decide what’s best to do? Of course you’re not! You’re going to park it somewhere safe where it can earn four grand a day, of which your fund pockets $ 800. Moreover, look at the losses booked by all the Chinese and Japanese indexes yesterday; wouldn’t it stand to reason that those slides would have triggered a massive Flight to Quality into Treasuries?

Well despite the phenomenal demand for Treasuries we saw today, and which two traders Sparky spoke with described it as historically intense; Treasuries closed up just a hair over yesterday’s closing prices. Here’s a look at the Curve:

US Treasury Issues as of Mar 01, 2007 5:54 PM Eastern
Issue Current Change Yield
3month T-Bill 5.00 unchanged (5.12)
6month T-Bill 4.89 down 2 basis pt (5.10)
2year T-Note 100 07/32 up 2/32 (4.61)
3year T-Note 100 18/32 up 2/32 (4.53)
5year T-Note 100 18/32 up 4/32 (4.49)
10year T-Note 100 18/32 up 4/32 (4.55)
30year T-Bond 101 04/32 up 1/32 (4.67)

On the equity fronts, the Dow on Thursday closed off only about 34 points and the Nasdaq was down only 12; but in Sparky's humble opinion, those who are really and truly connected, spent all day Thursday dumping and shorting equities.

So stay tuned folks; for if Sparky’s calling this right, Senator Dodd will very soon be deeply regretting that so many huge, slippery, and highly-leveraged funds call his sacred state of Connecticut their home.

And as a final point that suggests Friday may see a real rough open, Dell Computer posted earnings shortly after the close today, and since then as many DELL shares have crossed the post-close tape as traded all day Thursday; and the last trade was @ 22.58, off 43 cents from Thursday's $ 23.01 close.

Best Regards,

Sparky

Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By Ain't it just grand on 3/2/2007 12:44 AM
More were busted today, and I just love the tough stance Cox is taking. lol, give me a barf bag.

"Our action today is one of several that will make very clear the SEC is targeting hedge fund insider trading as a top priority," said SEC Chairman Christopher Cox.


http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2007/2007-28.htm


SEC Charges 14 in Wall Street Insider Trading Ring
Defendants Include Hedge Funds, Lawyers and Professionals at UBS, Bear Stearns, and Morgan Stanley
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bobo on 3/2/2007 12:47 AM
No, I haven't given up this fight - it was never about my shares and making them go up or down. This is a systemic problem I saw about 3 years ago, and I wanted to raise awareness of the issue. Just because the scumbags win a battle, doesn't mean much of anything - big tobacco won every round, until they didn't, and then the floodgates opened. I suspect Wall Street is the same way. They have to win every round. They can't afford discovery, or laws that achieve what discovery strives for - transparency.

And the reason the markets remain opaque is because crookery requires the cover of darkness to be effective.

Sunlight is always the best antiseptic, which is why they are fighting it tooth and nail. Cockroaches hate the light.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By JLB on 3/2/2007 5:27 AM
Bobo, I commented a few weeks ago that if the crooks continue to steal with impunity and the regulators aid and abet the crimes, some folks may crack. I just picked this piece up from Drudge this morning. They claim no motive is known yet, but only financial institutions have been targeted. BTW, take heart, you are a beacon in the darkness.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/03/01/D8NJI8LO7.html
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By bbhindyou on 3/2/2007 6:17 PM
Bobo
the problem with real estate is the property is only worth what people can afford to pay for it.
If the people cannot afford the real estate the market Will drop and the real estate will become worth much less.
Thats step two ,on how to buy all the real estate after the crash.
Don't think for a moment it's not a part of the pattern.
The same plan over and over, silly rube's never learn.
A house on my street has been for sale for two years.
Priced at where it was bought five years ago.
Perfect condition.
Re: Wall Street Wins Battle In War To End Larceny, Thievery and Racketeering By you nailed it bob on 3/2/2007 6:19 PM
bob, you have my utmost respect. you are a beacon in the darkness. most of us retail investors with day jobs & families to attend to have little time to delve into the ever complex land of investments. just by that very setup, our knowledge is behind the curve. we have to waste time sifting thru bad broadcast info & we get needed info too late to the party. so your well researched knowledge of marketing systems & their shortcomings is most likely the best info we have ever gotten for our investment capablilities. i agree about the mess of the u.s markets. i'm glad you have found a way to "free" yourself.
however, the rest of us seem to find little alternative. only thru investing w. my company's benefits manager in market assets can i get these savings untaxed. they do not provide investment info about commodities or real estate & i don't have enough resources to buy those on my own. in the last 20 years our "leaders" have pushed workers into the market transferring risk from pensions promised to workers retail investments. i used to get guaranteed return on future pensions. that was deep-sixed in favor of giving us tax write-offs on 401K contributions. the only alternative choice there is a fixed interest return of 4.50% now... less than many retail banks are offering. since my monthly costs are increasing at higher pace, there is pressure to make my earnings growing more rapidly which is the market.
in fact. there were many a fed speech thru last 10 years encouraging workers to participate in our ever expanding capital markets.

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