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Posted by:   bobo 1/4/2007 7:58 AM

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You ever feel like you are living in one of those old black and white movies, where the storm troopers show up to disappear your neighbor, and you cringe as you peer through your curtains, praying that they don't come for you, but also unwilling to try to oppose the ruthless force of the all-powerful regime?

I felt a bit like that as I read the latest bit from Trader's magazine on Reg SHO. It takes a little bit of explanation, but you will quickly see what I'm talking about as I discuss this piece.

This article is unremarkable on its face, in that it chants the Wall Street mantra, and simultaneously tries to argue that delivery failure is a trivial problem, but that, tut tut, changing the rules that allow participants to refuse delivery virtually whenever they feel like it, would gridlock the system.

Apparently the writer and editors at Trader's missed that contradiction. As does the entire US financial media machine.

See if you can spot it in this excerpt, as well as the obvious lie that is repeated ad infinitum by the industry's flacks:

"This is going to have a serious impact on our ability to make markets," Mark Madoff, co-director of trading at the family-owned firm, said of the SEC's plan. He spoke on a panel at the Security Traders Association's annual conference.

At issue is the regulator's plan to eliminate the so-called "grandfather" exemption of Reg SHO's Rule 203(b)(3). This loophole allows a market maker to avoid delivering a security he has sold short. The exemption applies only to certain securities under specific circumstances.

Rule 203(b)(3) requires broker-dealers to close out their short positions in so-called "threshold" securities if they have failed to deliver the security to the buyer within 13 settlement days.

Threshold securities are those that have relatively high rates of non-delivery. They are typically less-liquid stocks that can be difficult to buy or borrow.

The self-regulatory organizations publish daily lists of their threshold securities. In total, about 300 names make the lists on any given day. They include exchange-listed as well as OTCBB stocks.

Currently, a broker-dealer is exempted from Rule 203(b)(3) if it shorts a security that became a threshold security in the days following the trade.

The exemption was granted to help market makers provide liquidity in thinly traded names without fear they will suddenly be forced to close out short positions.

Reg SHO has reduced the number of fails to deliver-the National Securities Clearing Corporation estimates only one percent of all trades result in fails to deliver-but the SEC wants to go further."

It has reduced the number of fails? What about the $63 billion number on the SIA's own spreadsheet, from Q2, 2006? Or the FOIA data that shows an increase in the number of failures? Why is the press so studiously ignoring data that is only a mouse click away? Stored here for your enjoyment and reflection? Why is a lie repeated, when the truth is easily available, and irrefutable at that?

Reg SHO hasn't reduced anything but my belief that we are operating under the rule of law. Delivery failures are as big or bigger a problem than when it was implemented. That is what all the information tells us. There is no data to suggest otherwise. None. Except a cherry-picked data mining exploration designed to make it appear that the rule had any positive impact whatsoever. Long since debunked, as hundreds of comment letters on the SEC's website underscore.

Which the press studiously ignores.

Why is that?

Why is it that the reporters and editors are now toeing the line that Wall Street is good for bones and teeth, and that Reg SHO is good, and that delivery failures are a small issue, when the data shows that is a lie?

My hunch is that if you want to stay employed in the financial media, you don't buck city hall. Better to claim Aguirre is a wacko, and proclaim that delivery failures are a non-issue, than to report the truth.

The truth is dangerous. The truth can get you fired, or hurt, or destroyed, financially, reputationally, or worse.

Which brings us back to the black and white movie where the goose-stepping secret police haul off a dissident as the community hides and does nothing, and the captured media of the time prints whatever the regime feels is in its best interests.

We always look back at history and smugly assure ourselves that these sorts of things can never happen here, that it is impossible for a military/financial/industrial complex to so totally own the system that it can behave as despicably as it likes, all the while insisting via its media apparatus that it is fighting the good fight - and the media goes along.

That was always somebody else's problem. It was "them" that allowed "that" to happen "there." They were deficient. We are different. Better. More vigilant. Ethically superior.

And yet we now face an ethical and moral dilemma - a segment of the financial/industrial complex is literally stealing many billions of dollars, and refusing to deliver the product it sold to unsuspecting citizens, all the while insisting that no such thing is happening, but that the system would crash if it was stopped....

And the media repeats it verbatim, over and over again. Sort of, "Let me keep my bowl of gruel and bread crust, and I'll gladly turn a blind eye, or even repeat the lie."

Because nobody wants to be the one hauled off, or fired, or destroyed.

The thing that has always been one of this country's most valued assets is the notion of the freedom of an independent press, and its watchdog role against precisely that sort of totalitarian abuse of power - lying, cheating, stealing, abusing the population, becoming more brazen as power is consolidated, the violations more egregious as the population's acquiescence becomes the rule.

And yet we see campaigns in the WSJ to tar and feather Aguirre, we see complete silence in the press about the SIA's $63 billion in delivery and receipt failures, we witness a complete lockdown on any discussion of the FOIA data that shows the establishment's statements to be a pack of lies.

Stories are killed. Sanitized. Spin is initiated. Lies are repeated. Black is white, war is peace.

Think I'm describing Soviet-era Russia or some other equally repellent fascist regime, where the press became the lapdogs of the power structure, propagating whatever the lie of the day was, and cowering before the might of the unbeatable force? Where the cynical enablers rationalized that it was better that they maintain their positions, even if it meant lying and becoming part of the problem, because if they didn't, someone else would anyway?

Think again. Look around. This is precisely how these things devolve. You are watching as it happens, here, to us. Not there, to them.

Happy New Year.

 

Copyright ©2007 Bob O'Brien
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Re: Repeating The Lie By bobo on 1/4/2007 8:50 AM
From an email to some friends earlier today:

Reg SHO "reduced" fails to "only" $63 billion in NYSE member firms by Q2, 2006, per the SIA's own report, viewable by all at their website. Not counting all the fails from Clearstream and the international houses, or pre-netted fails, or ex-clearing fails, or whatever unknown number are being obfuscated via daisy-chained repo agreements.

1% of trades fail, or rather about $1 billion or so per day. That is AFTER pre-netting, and CNS netting, wherein (CNS) alone "handles" 96% of all trades, offsetting sales with long positions. Oh, and also after the Stock Borrow Program handles about a billion per day. So a better (more accurate) way of saying it would be that, of the 4% of total trades that CNS doesn't handle - roughly $4 billion - 50% fail, with half of the fails being handled by the SBP, and the other half being handled by, er, calling them FTDs, finally...

Repeat the lie often enough and the sheep will believe it. Reg SHO is working, this is a small problem, and oh, that $63 billion published by the SIA itself? Ignore that. And especially ignore that is marked to market, and likely represents 10-20 times larger a number that the original delivery failures took place at, before the PPS was run into the ground.

Unbelievable. And where's the press while this is going on?

Holding the door of the getaway car, insisting that there is no there there.
Re: Repeating The Lie By FYI on 1/4/2007 9:23 AM
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Re: Repeating The Lie By bbhindyou on 1/5/2007 5:01 AM
Dictatorship here now.
The cold war was won but not by the people of america.
The freedoms we supposidly fought for are gone.
What are you going to do about it?
Listen to the silence?
Re: Repeating The Lie By hemingway811 on 1/5/2007 9:42 AM
Senate Banking Committee - No Hearings Scheduled For January

Senate Judiciary Committee - Jan. 10th - "Balancing Privacy and Security: The Privacy Implications of Government Data Mining Programs "

Senate Finance Committee - Jan 10th - Tax Incentives for Businesses in Response to a Minimum Wage Increase.
Jan. 11th - Prescription Drug Pricing and Negotiation: An Overview and Economic Perspectives for the Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit

House Committee On The Judiciary - No Hearings Scheduled For January

House Committee On Financial Services - No Hearings Scheduled For January

Looks like business as usual in Wahington.
Re: Repeating The Lie By hit em where it hurts on 1/5/2007 10:46 AM
thought mr.serious made good points on bob's blog before this...

"Say I bought 10K shares of OSTK in 2003, 20K in 2004, and 15K in 2005. Etrade, Scottrade, Ameritrade, or WhoeverTrade would have to send me a 1099 or 1099-R each year verifying these purchases. I would then have to submit that form, under law, to the IRS with my 1040 Form. This 1099 Form will show the number of shares I purchased and a CUSIP # for each transaction.
So then I sign my 1040 under penalties of perjury and my CPA signs it. To me, these signatures show these forms to be legally binding. Is that correct?
Isn't this tax filing proof of our shares or our intent to purchase shares? Every single year?
Are Etrade, Scottrade, Ameritrade, or WhoeverTrade equally under penalties of perjury and required to sign off on these?"

IRS tax accounting is the most important means of exchange between workers & gubmint. since they claim taxes are binding obligation, fraudulent 1099s should be prosecuted especially by those brokers allowed to be stewards of workers' retirement investiments.
tax time is coming up. all "news media" will constantly be carrying stories about filing taxes. now is the time to strike. question the finance experts, the IRS, about these doubts & suspicions concerning our 1099 and stock ownership!
write in...call in...plop yourself wherever they claim to help with their expertise.

I maging if the go after the real crooks like John Mack and Stevie Cohen?? By Sean on 1/5/2007 1:13 PM
Former analyst gets 3 years for US insider trading
Reuters - January 05, 2007 2:51 PM ET


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NEW YORK, Jan 5 (Reuters) - A former Merrill Lynch & Co. Inc. (MER) analyst who pleaded guilty to giving tips to the accused masterminds of a far-reaching insider trading ring was sentenced on Friday to three years in prison.

Stanislav Shpigelman, 24, was the "critical component" of one scheme because his tips helped generate $6.7 million in illegal gains for the ring, said U.S. District Judge Kenneth Karas.

"Without a tipper, the tippees cannot profit a dime," Karas said. "Without his information, there would have been no insider trading."

Prosecutors said Shpigelman, who worked as a mergers and acquisition analyst at Merrill, gave tips to two former Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) employees, Eugene Plotkin and David Pajcin.

Plotkin and Pajcin who are accused of leading an insider-trading ring that traded off Shpigelman's tips and also off stolen advance copies of BusinessWeek magazine that they got from a Milwaukee printing plant worker.

Shpigelman pleaded guilty to one count of insider trading, which carried a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.

His lawyer, Mary Mulligan, asked for a sentence of less than three years. Shpigelman's reaped illegal profits of only $12,000 and had no knowledge that others would profit millions when he leaked the information, Mulligan said.

But Assistant U.S. Attorney Ben Lawsky said Shpigelman went out partying to clubs in New York with Plotkin and Pajcin on the nights that their insider trades went through.

"Mr. Shpigelman did this for the oldest reason in the book -- greed," Lawsky said. "He provided them the most valuable information there is on Wall Street."

Pajcin has agreed to cooperate with authorities, while Plotkin and another defendant are awaiting trial in April on insider-trading and other charges. (Reporting by Matthew Verrinder, editing by John Wallace; New York Newsdesk, (646) 223-6280))

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Re: Repeating The Lie By piddly_sum on 1/5/2007 3:53 PM
bobo,
The good news is that if they are complaining then maybe that means it will happen.

Also, I doubt they would complain if this did not affect the way they do business, although from the victim side it seems a little like patching the levy after the city is 98% flooded. Maybe it will slow down the growth of the cancer.

Since the SEC has already been talking about this for six months, it is now only years overdue. And I'm sure whatever changes they make won't go into effect for another six months, you know, don't want to cause short squeezes or volatility.
Re: Repeating The Lie By oldfeller on 1/5/2007 6:39 PM
re: Canadian markets.. Sometimes I wonder if it really is all just about stealing the money. I have a half-baked theory that goes like this-- someone decided that in a fair market, such as Canada`s open auction system, the natural price swings would allow too much money to be made by people who really applied themselves to learning the game. There were a lot of millionaires made in the dotcom boom who couldn`t last a month in today`s trading environment. The powers that be may have just decided it was simply "too easy" to make money trading. A lot of the best and brightest would be attracted to the game and exit the workforce. Plus these same people would have the time and money to involve themselves in things like politics. This might have had implications undesirable to those in charge of us all. So maybe they simply took steps to make the game practically unwinnable to anyone outside the loop. This is the only explaination I can think of (besides simple greed) for our government to allow this sort of thing to go so long and negatively effect so many people.
Re: Repeating The Lie By old duffer on 1/5/2007 10:19 PM
Canadian Markets give me future hope for US markets. When I first started playing them in the early 90's they were of the worst anywhere. Then it got so bad that no one wanted to play in them. They had to change to get investors back into the game. Not perfect by any means, but at least if you study the investments and who gets behind them you have a chance to benifit along with the power boys who work those markets.

In the US markets they never throw the suckers a bone anymore. So why play.

My NewYears res. this year is to continue to extract myself from the US markets and go elsewhere. Candian being my choice at this time until they close that off to the little guy again.

Take the money away and they die.Or stay and you die.
In a word - Fascism By smuopr8r on 1/11/2007 8:49 AM
Characteristics of Fascist Philosophy

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A second ruling concept of fascism is embodied in the theory of social Darwinism. The doctrine of survival of the fittest and the necessity of struggle for life is applied by fascists to the life of a nation-state. Peaceful, complacent nations are seen as doomed to fall before more dynamic ones, making struggle and aggressive militarism a leading characteristic of the fascist state. Imperialism is the logical outcome of this dogma.

Another element of fascism is its elitism. Salvation from rule by the mob and the destruction of the existing social order can be effected only by an authoritarian leader who embodies the highest ideals of the nation. This concept of the leader as hero or superman, borrowed in part from the romanticism of Friedrich Nietzsche, Thomas Carlyle, and Richard Wagner, is closely linked with fascism's rejection of reason and intelligence and its emphasis on vision, creativeness, and “the will.”


Most significant in the description above is the last sentence. I, for one, refuse to reject reason and intelligence, and will vote for those who demostrate to me that they are reasonable, intelligent, and courageous enough to act against inethical and immoral expectations of them from their leadership. How silly of me to believe faithfully in a democratic system of government and to hold myselfand those above me to high ethical standards and principles...truly un-American, to be sure.

It saddens me to know brave Americans will lose their lives this week protecting the freedoms of unappreciative Wall Street fascists.
Re: Repeating The Lie By n-tres-ted on 1/4/2007 10:36 AM
Bobo, as I recall, the Senate Judiciary and Finance Committees (Specter and Grassley) are due to issue their report on the investigation of Aguirre's firing by the SEC by mid-January. I'm hoping they will give some attention to NSS as a major issue crying to be addressed. Any rumors?
Re: Repeating The Lie By Bobo on 1/4/2007 11:17 AM
n-tres-ted: No rumors. But I wouldn't expect any discussion, even though Aguirre's leter to Congress specifically identified the practice as pervasive and damaging. This potato is way too hot. If the numbers I keep running are correct, a good chunk of the market's trading is fails, obfuscated one way or another. Repo agreements, international shenanigans, ex-clearing, you name it. Stealing the money while delivering nothing is the name of the game, and the first one that blinks and lets this get real coverage could bring down the system. So everyone wants it to stay quiet. The government due to stability of the financial system and huge donations from Wall Street, Wall Street due to windfall profits to be had by pocketing investor savings and delivering nothing. The media due to pressure from their editors and owners to keep it quiet. Everyone is OK with the savings of a nation being ripped off on their watch, just as long as no explosion takes place while they are accountable.
Re: Repeating The Lie By darren on 1/4/2007 11:24 AM
I've made some of my best wins on the TSX in Canada, which is completely computerized. There are no market makers, so you buy from a seller with a real order. No money is skimmed off for a market maker to buy from the seller and sell to the buyer.

It's common for stocks to be really illiquid, such as .25-.50. The price you can buy it for might be 100% higher than the price you can sell it for. Who cares? The orders are real and based on real auction based beliefs on the value of the stock.

You can usually reach liquidity by getting closer to the fair value. You might have to bid $.40 and suddenly get filled.

The reason so many penny stocks are not liquid is the market makers artificially push them to a level far below what they are worth according to demand. At first, the buyers flood in, thinking the stocks are on sale (feeding $'s to the market makers who infinitely naked short), but as time goes on, buyers get frustrated by the never ending supply and they give up.

My hypothesis is the market makers cause many SHO stocks to be illiquid precisely because they refuse to price them according to supply and demand. There's always a price where people will sell. Their complaint is that it is at a level where they will lose money.

Regulations are passed by elected officials and believe it or not, many are honest. The media is becoming irrelevant as the internet media and its meritocracy takes hold.

I'd hate to be one of the scumbags that put my face as a support of this crime as the public is going to come with pitchforks and torches when they realize how they've been ripped off.
Re: Repeating The Lie By SteveM on 1/4/2007 11:30 AM
To protect the markets and America, they are letting the problem get worse?

Maybe they should be secretly seizing all the bonus money and puting it back into the system to cover the fails.

What they are really doing is aiding and Aiding and Abetting a criminal activity.
Re: Repeating The Lie By darren on 1/4/2007 11:36 AM
It won't bring down the system (because for every loser, there is a winner and if the offshore hedge funds lose and we win, there will be a net dollar flow back into the US of A) but it will definitely bring the scumbags down.

Even if every prime brokerage and bank in the country went down, we'd be fine as the Federal Reserve would provide liquidity as needed.

The winners in this game would have the cash to buy the banks and prime brokerages at a fire sale as they went under to continue servicing the public.

The elite isn't worried about the system breaking down. They are worried about going broke personally.
Re: Repeating The Lie By NoMorePaper Yeah! on 1/4/2007 11:48 AM


I'm so glad they are getting rid of paper certificates the same way they got rid of the gold that used to back the US dollar.

We can have fiat shares rather than shares backed by ownership in a company.

http://dtcc.com/nomorepaper/index.html


Re: Repeating The Lie By NoMorePaper Yeah! on 1/4/2007 11:48 AM
(sarcasm intended)
Re: Repeating The Lie By kevin on 1/4/2007 1:20 PM
A bit off topic, but China and Russia are replacing the IMF as world lender. As I understand it, the IMF loans were in US dollars and the new loans aren't.

Do you ever get the feeling that someone is trying to hurt us economically? This whole share counterfeiting thing feels like treason.

Key IMF Financial Statistics for Dec 28, 2006

Credit outstanding has gone from 55.4 billion at the end of 2004 to just 10.1 billion at the end of 2006. It's important to note that banks work inversely from a business. Loans are assets for a bank and a liability for a business. This is a decline of 82% in assets that the IMF was holding just two years ago. At the end of 1998 the IMF had created 60.5 billion in loans, so since the end of 1998 assets have gone down 83.3%.

I know both Bolivia and Ecuador are talking about paying off their IMF debts fairly soon. The largest holder of IMF debt is currently Turkey. Nobody is borrowing from the IMF and why should they, China and Russia are lending at much more favorable terms. Where does this all lead?

The IMF financed itself back in the 1940's with gold, what happens to this asset if the IMF is no longer a lender? As of August 2006 the IMF claimed that they held 103.4 million ounces (3,217 metric tons) of gold at designated depositories. Certainly the IMF has some level of fixed costs that must be met to finance buildings, payroll and their excessive meddling in the economies of the world, what does one consider this level of expense to be and how possibly can 10.1 billion in loans be enough to pay for this expense?

If you're a holder of gold, I think I'd be a bit concerned about some level of IMF sells of gold entering the market, especially at these prices.
Re: Repeating The Lie By old duffer on 1/4/2007 1:47 PM
Darren,Ditto on the Canadian markets. I have been cleaning up on the Venture there with PM jr's (GEM, from Nov.@ $21 Cnd-Today closed @$1.20 Cdn..ARU LOW FOR THE YEAR $0.50, HIGH $ 43.00 With in a few months . Also have talked with several otc:bb companys about adding a Canadian listing to their company. That has allowed me to buy in some cases on the otc for lower price on one day and sell on the Canadian side later as there is often a tradeable price differance. A couple of the people I talked with in otc companys are looking into Canadian listings.

If you can't make any money in the US markets because the crooks running the country won't enforce the laws,go play where they at least have a system that gives you a chance.
Re: Repeating The Lie By old duffer on 1/4/2007 1:52 PM
On the last post I gave, the example of the GEM was a move from $0.21 to $1.20 Cnd. in two months and three days. If they show a bid or ask and you get there first it's yours. They don't pull them away like they do in our criminal US system.
Re: Repeating The Lie By kevin on 1/4/2007 2:18 PM
Why can't the trading system be automated? Market makers serve no useful purpose that I can see. Canada has no market makers.

It makes you wonder why they can't license the software they use in Canada and eliminate the billions in profit that comes out of our pocket and goes to the market makers each year.

I guess I just answered my own question.
Re: Repeating The Lie By searrows on 1/4/2007 3:09 PM
Well, well, once again the sky is falling for sure...I believe it already, OK. but every week I continue to fund my 401 K and hold onto the certificates of my tanked SHO stock. I do what I can to spread the epistles according to Bobo, but its like telling the dinosoars that they are about to go extinct, they are just too dumb to care I tell ya....
What I'd like to see is just a little of this massed brain power discuss from time to time is what do we, the lttle people do now ahead of the the tsunami. Where is the high ground? Will it matter if you are a 100% in bonds if your broker goes bust. Should we cash in our 401 s and pay the penalties just so we have something to show for it. Whats the frequency Kenneth? Is the truth of the matter that no matter what we do we are all more or less in the same boat? If so, where is the best seat? To hell with the system I just want to save my ass.
Re: Repeating The Lie By Hammertoes on 1/4/2007 4:11 PM
It's a shame there isn't a rich benefactor out there who is prepared to play the big houses' game and buy off a major editor to present the real facts. I would hope it would only take one, major, front page expose to get the ball rolling.
Re: Repeating The Lie By scoop on 1/4/2007 4:56 PM
Has anyone approached the National Enquirer? Even though 95% of their stories are BS, they break major scoops 5% of the time as they are independently owned.

Imagine the headlines....
Re: Repeating The Lie By Mosses on 1/4/2007 5:06 PM
Bobo,

Why haven't Mark, Bud and David been blogging?

Where have they been?

Mosses
Re: Repeating The Lie By harry from harlem on 1/4/2007 5:25 PM
Yeah National Enquirer did the story on the CIA and Enron connection.But then they got anthraxed.
Re: Repeating The Lie By scoop on 1/4/2007 6:20 PM
That's my point. They got anthraxed because they break real stories and at the risk of being off topic, the WTC7 collapsing for no reason was a real story.

Everyone knows 95% is BS, but I've had university educated friends bring up how often the biggest scoops come from that publication. It's the last nationwide independently owned publication.

I think it worth phoning their editor to get them going.

Headlines:

"Wallstreet rips off widows"
"Massive counterfeiting scam, government officials involved, refuse comment"
"Get rich quick; force Wallstreet to honor IOU's"

You think I'm kidding, but if they get 50 calls from us over the next 24 hours, they may run the story and be the one that breaks it to the masses.

50 calls means you have to call. Please do it. Call them, it doesn't cost you anything and is five minutes out of your life.

They are owned by:

http://www.americanmediainc.com/

Their contact is:

Daniel Rotstein
Senior Vice President - Administration and Human Resources,
phone: 561-989-1299
email: drotstein@amilink.com

Tell him there are millions of investors that will tell their friends to buy the issue as a collectors item when they break the story. This is the kind of thing that will uTube them a lot of money.

Or google any of their executives and write them directly.

http://www.americanmediainc.com/exec_bio.htm
Re: Repeating The Lie By browntrout on 1/4/2007 6:37 PM
scoop-Will they put the story next to the pictures of the UFOs circling the White House? Or maybe next to the Skunk Ape photos from Florida? It would be a great way to educate Joe Sixpack and his wife Babs. It is probably the only financial news they would ever look at. They could peruse it when taking a break from watching that great investing show called "Deal or No Deal".
Re: Repeating The Lie By hoagx on 1/4/2007 7:31 PM
Here's a quote which may explain why this is such a sour apple to our main media...

We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. He went on to explain: It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries. - David Rockefeller , then Chairman of Chase Manhattan bank, speaking at the June, 1991 Bilderberger meeting in Baden Baden, Germany (a meeting attended by then-Governor Bill Clinton) is illustrative of the media control mentioned above.
Re: Repeating The Lie By scoop on 1/4/2007 8:13 PM
Browntrout, not sure if you are trying to be funny, but the only media that isn't owned by Wallstreet is the UFO / OJ / Michael Jackson media and the internet media.

Don't kid yourself. If they break this story, it will get out to the population way quicker than if Carol Redmond alias Remond admitted her sins in print.

It's five minutes out of your life to make the call. If it doesn't work, we'll try something else.

I think it will work beyond our expectations.

If you are reading this, please call and beg they investigate.
Re: Repeating The Lie By rtway1 on 1/4/2007 9:10 PM
When is the next hearing with Shelby and Specter? Is there another judicial comittee scheduled or did they drop us also? Seems like this government is more like Russia evry day. New players in Congress but same game plan, screw the little guy. I'm afraid that America has to take to the streets to be heard.
Re: Repeating The Lie By ted on 1/4/2007 9:19 PM
Assume the SEC and politicians will do dick.

We need to take this to the people. After all, it's our money and if we don't let them steal it, then the whole prime brokerage ponzi scheme falls apart.
Re: Repeating The Lie By rtway1 on 1/4/2007 9:31 PM
I don't think there is a member of either party that gives a rats ass about the whole wall st. scam or is afraid. There is an election in 2008 and now is the time for either of those parties to know who we are or a third party. No money no votes and accounts go overseas. If we can not be treated as Americans than there is no America. How long can Wall st. survive without us. I am tired of being the target of some behind the shadows thief that no one wants to ever find.
Re: Repeating The Lie By Power is Money on 1/5/2007 1:28 AM
Money gives you power. Buy the right stock and make the money to give you power. It's right in front of your eyes and has been mentioned on this board several times.

Do it now. Money is power! Buy the right stock.

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