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SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started."

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Posted by:   bobo 12/5/2006 7:28 AM

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Anyone doubting the veracity of this blog, and my tenet that the SEC is co-opted and dangerously out of control, got a hell of a wake up call if they listened to the Senate Judiciary hearing today, wherein the SEC was called onto the carpet over its handling of the matter of Gary Aguirre's firing, and the Pequot/Mack insider trading/stock manipulation investigation.

It was pretty clear to me that Senators Specter and Grassley weren't buying a word of the SEC's pitch, and further were increasingly annoyed at the lawyerly non-answers that the SEC personnel tried to respond with.

Aguirre was composed as he gave testimony today. He was clear, believable, detailed, reasonable, and generally meticulous in his testimony. It supported his previous testimony.

The SEC argued that they never used political considerations to decide whether to investigate or subpoena a subject.

The fireworks came down to this:

"Gary is a liar, unbalanced, erratic, and a rat bastard."

Gary's response: "Not one shred of fact or paperwork backs this BS."

Gary also pointed out that the grand total of insider trading investigations leveled against hedge funds is 6 - 3 in PIPES cases, 2 against small funds that have generated a whopping $160K worth of fines, and a third that took 5 years to file. That's it.

Linda Thomsen rebutted that it was a growing and very important/challenging area the SEC was planning on pursuing.

For those who haven't learned via my blog, that is what the SEC says when they've done squat, and want to appear to care about whatever they are talking about.

They are "considering" this "challenging" area. Just as they have been "considering" the "challenging" area of violating all the 1934 mandates for prompt delivery - in fact, 72 years after that Act was passed, they are still considering that area, all the while as the number of delivery and receipt failures skyrockets to the current $63 billion number we now know from the SIA summary of NYSE member firms.

They certainly consider challenging areas a lot.

Got to give them that.

The discussion from the SEC folks universally lambasted Aguirre as a kook, a loose cannon, a malcontent, a tantrum thrower, etc. Exactly the same charges leveled against Ed Gray, the regulator who tried to rein in the S&L nightmare. It seems that the repertoire doesn't really change over the decades. Of course, other than hot air, there is exactly no evidence that the SEC is telling the truth, and plentiful evidence for Gary Aguirre's position.

Oh. That.

As to the two step merit increases, it is now a "overly generous" evaluation.

Hanson, Aguirre's supervisor, was hung by Specter after he was forced to admit that he had referred to Mack as a "bad guy." That was after the SEC had taken the position that there was no reason for Aguirre to view Mack as a valid suspect. Kind of uncomfortable, in the time-honored tradition of folks caught flat-footed, his memory failed him as to why he referred to Mack as a bad guy. Just couldn't remember. Slipped his mind. Drew a blank. Specter seemed unconvinced, to say the least.

Now, however, he can certainly recall that he doesn't think that Mack is a bad guy. So he did then, but doesn't now. But can't recall why that is. Maybe because Mack fired people? That was the best he could marshal.

"Why were you standing over the dead body, holding a bloody knife, screaming "You're a bad guy"?"

"Uh. I don't remember?"

I loved it. Nothing better than really smart guys who recall every nuance of what a wingnut Aguirre was, but suddenly get amnesia when written evidence surfaces that casts doubt as to the veracity of their statements.

Eric Ribelin, current SEC branch chief for the office of market surveillance, said flat out that he felt that Aguirre was tenacious and professional in his behavior. This contradicted the testimony of the other SEC guys - Kreitman, Hanson. Ribelin indicated that he was surprised that Paul Berger, who was usually aggressive, was unsupportive of the Pequot investigation.

Ribelin had sent Hanson an email that said, point blank, that he felt that as far as the Pequot investigation, "Something smells rotten."

Ribelin was extremely sharp, believable, genuine in his testimony, and threw a huge monkey wrench into the SEC official stance that Aguirre was a kook. Ribelin indicated that he had discussed with Hanson how Hanson felt that they had to proceed cautiously regarding Mack, given his prominence, and that he had to be pursued cautiously. Ribelin proposed, as had Aguirre, that they just call Mack and ask some basic questions. Hanson didn't reply.

Hanson insisted that merger and acquisition data was highly confidential, and that nobody was told this info.

Which of course ignores that data shows strong evidence of big moves ahead of M&A activity. So who is doing all that trading? And why? The SEC's position is that that data just doesn't get out.

That's our regulator.

Aguirre says that Mack was given the opportunity to triple his money on a deal he was given by the guy trading for Pequot, immediately following all the funny trading in GE. The notion was that Mack gave Sanborn (the trader) the tip, in exchange for a piece of the "Fresh Start" deal he'd been trying to get into for a long time. He got in the night of his discussion when it is alleged that he might have traded the GE tip - that was Aguirre's smoking gun as a quid pro quo. And the tripling of the value was re-emphasized by Specter, after Hanson obviously dishonestly claimed that he wasn't aware of any investment that had done more than double.

On the topic of the "re-evaluation" that was done on Aguirre, in his absence, while he was on vacation, all the SEC folks tried to do the pass the hot potato dance. Nobody knew the answer as to whether there had ever been another re-evaluation, in the history of the SEC. Ever. Nobody had looked into that at the SEC, apparently, before testifying to Congress, when they knew that was going to be a big part of the hearing. So nobody could tell Specter how many times it had happened in the past.

Specter seemed to feel it was never. Ever.

Specter also asked point blank whether they felt that it was suspicious that he had gotten all these favorable reviews, and then suddenly had been fired.

After the inspector general refused to answer Specter's question about whether the justice department is advising the Inspector General not to discuss the matter with the Judiciary Committee, "The plot grows thicker all the time."

After providing a 30-second summary that captured the harassment of Aguirre by the SEC, contradictory sworn testimony, suspicious disciplinary actions, only interviewing Mack once the statute of limitations had run out, the Inspector General NEVER bothering to interview Aguirre before deciding his firing was kosher (which Specter incredulously called "extraordinary), etc. etc. etc., Specter clearly was agitated and clearly very annoyed.

After Grassley, who was equally angry and agitated with the SEC, had heard a bunch of the testimony, he cut the SEC off and proposed legislation that would stop a government agency from hassling whistleblowers like Aguirre - the SEC is subpoenaing all his correspondence with Congress, which both Grassley and Specter went nuts over - and justifiably so, as Aguirre pointed out that he had already supplied an exhaustive amount of data to the SEC.

As he closed the hearing, Specter said, "We are not finished with this."

His last words were that this is "Very, very troubling, at a minimum."

Yes, Senator. You are correct. What you are seeing is a regulator acting like a private company trying to engage in a cover-up of its nepotism and obstruction of justice. Exactly like one. And its ego and power is such that it thinks it can tell Congress to pound sand.

Any questions?

 

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Comments (68)
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" "Aguirre: They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By gregcable2002 on 12/5/2006 9:22 AM
looks like Mr Macks connections reach all the way into the DOJ,thats what the senator was kinda upset about at the end,which in his words,this is not the end of this story.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By gregcable2002 on 12/5/2006 9:26 AM
I bet MR Mack is on the phone right this very moment wanting to know why Mr Hanson was quoted as saying he's a bad guy,I guess Mr Hansons career is over now.Too to funny.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By I Can't Remember on 12/5/2006 10:34 AM
Hanson is the fall guy. This needs to move up the ladder.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By gregcable2002 on 12/5/2006 10:36 AM
As we see today the forces at work in our government could care less what the constitution stands for and WE THE PEOPLE need to clean house soon or we'll find ourselves being ruled at gunpoint.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By By the Way on 12/5/2006 10:39 AM
I see posts are already moving around so here is something else you can do. Go one step further and copy and paste the date and hour in (not the minutes)
Then you can just keep upping the hour in your search.

Update

Tired of skimming the blog for posts that have inserted themselves into the middle.

Search by the Date

examples on how to do a find

on a PC hit Control F and type in 12/5/2006 10:

on a Mac hit Command F and type in 12/5/2006 10:



on a PC hit Control F and type in 12/5/2006 11:

on a Mac hit Command F and type in 12/5/2006 11:


and so on

Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By bobo on 12/5/2006 10:42 AM
hemingway: Credibility? Some glaring examples of how the SEC LIES TO US:

1) Reg SHO is working. A lie. The SIA data shows $63 billion in delivery and receipt failures. Not the $6 billion the DTCC and SEC claim. Further, the FOIA data Patch and others collected shows an increase in fails since Reg SHO's implementation.

2) "I can't remember why I said Mack is a bad man." Stands on its own for absurdity.

3) "I'm not sure how rare a re-evaluation is." Uh, how about it has NEVER happened before? That's what I picked up, and that tells everyone how dishonest these guys are - they can't bring themselves to tell the truth even on easily verifiable matters.

Credibility?

How about a special prosecutor? One with no ties to Wall Street, and a serious record of hard charging investigations?

Specter knew he was being conned. So did Grassley. My sense is this ups the bar again, and is setting up a very bad situation for the SEC's ongoing survival from this point on.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By gregcable2002 on 12/5/2006 10:58 AM
GOT JUICE,i see a commercial here,Mr Mack standing over his automatic juicer adding a banana that looks kinda like Hanson,a blueberry that resembles Berger and a Thomason strawberry,GOT JUICE.I got juice.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By clearthinker on 12/5/2006 11:08 AM
like the titanic looking for duct tape to patch the hole....
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By bobo on 12/5/2006 11:22 AM
hemingway: They will likely have their press contacts report on it as they did on the NASAA meeting - just make stuff up, and ignore 99.999% of the hearing. We are already seeing that on the treatment from Marketwatch, wherein they merely parrot Thomsen's written testimony and ignore the almost two hours of hearing. Anyone looking for evidence that the media is co-opted need look no further.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By kevin on 12/5/2006 11:35 AM
Even long sales can create delivery failures if the share that is being sold is already phantom.

Imagine a custodian holding stock for 55,000 investors on behalf of twelve introducing brokerages (a common situation).

They know that everyone that owns a stock isn't going to call for their shares at the same time, so they only own, say 85% of what they should.

Suddenly the stock runs and all the longs start selling and the custodian doesn't want to replace that 15%. What if every long share is sold? Then the custodian will have a fail to deliver of 15% even though there wasn't a single short sale or mismarked short sale.

Another situation is where one introducing brokerage is long a million shares and another is short a million shares (legitimately as they were borrowed off the first brokerage).

The first brokerage customers sell their shares and the custodian buys in the short brokerage, but they don't buy in themselves. Instead, they fail to deliver the million shares.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By n-tres-ted on 12/5/2006 11:37 AM
I was fortunate to see and hear the entire webcast this morning. The well-worn admonition that "one who acts as his own lawyer has a fool for a client." That concern is probably running through the minds of each of the SEC officials (plus Paul Berger, the former official who shut down the Pequot inquiry by Aguirre and then hopped to Mary Jo White's law firm earlier this year), other than the branch manager (the only current SEC official who did not submit a prepared, written statement). Notice that the Inspector General had counsel, the DOJ, who advised him to decline to answer. Chairman Specter did not force the issue and require him to cite his privilege against self incrimination under the Fifth Amendment, but that is what it amounted to, IMO. I said some time ago every one of them had better take the Fifth, but I think the Democrat win in the elections gives them hope that Specter and Grassley will be sucking air in pursuing them after January 1.

The smoking gun that came out today was Aguirre's evidence that Mack made $11 million on the Fresh Start deal in return for his tip to Samberg that enabled Pequot to make $18 million on the inside information. That is the clear quid pro quo, that was missing until now, since we were previously in the position of asserting Mack gave a criminal tip to a "friend." With Mack getting $11 million and Pequot (with greater capital invested) got $18 million, that is as common a criminal deal as "I'll set up this old geezer, you knock him over, and we'll split the dough." If there is evidence to support those facts related by Aguirre this morning, I don't see how the SEC could responsibly fail to bring the case.

Another thing I thought was particularly significant this morning. Specter moved Linda Thomsen from the first panel to the second panel. When the second panel was preparing to testify, Specter stood and required each of them to swear under oath to tell the truth.

Did anyone view the panel of witnesses this morning and come away with renewed confidence that the SEC is policing the U. S. markets effectively?

Did anyone notice that not a single Democrat senator attended the hearing? Nor any other Republican except Specter and Grassley. Of course, if anyone else had been there, they may have wasted time or required the hearing to continue after lunch. We know everyone is so busy, what with Christmas coming and all.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By bobo on 12/5/2006 11:51 AM
Here is NPR's take on the hearing:

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2006/12/05/AM200612056.html

I think that the public is starting to catch on. That's the problem with being lying guy - you get too much face time, and the public catches on to the flim-flam.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By CRIMESOFTREASON on 12/5/2006 1:11 PM
THE SEC HAS COMMITTED MORE CRIMES OF TREASON THAN ANYONE EVER HAS... WE SHOULD SEND THEM TO BE TRIED IN IRAQ WHERE THEY CUT YOUR HANDS OFF FOR STEALING...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUN WATCHING THE SEC OFFICIALS SQUIRMING WITHOUT THEIR HANDS TO SIT ON...
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Selene on 12/5/2006 1:55 PM
A few questions:

1. Why did the Senators not ask the SEC why no warning was ever given to Aguirre (either official or unofficial)? Also, you would expect there to be some e-mail evidence that points to Aguirres bosses discussing how out of control Aguirre was (they painted him as some sort of mad man today). Something. The Senators should have put them on the spot to relay how the discussion of Aguirre's termanation started (a who said what to whom). Put them on the spot.

2. Why didn't the Senators ask the obvious question: Is it possible that the CSFB employees lied to you?

What a wonderful world. We have an SEC looking into illegal insider trading, yet at the same time they suggest you can't have illegal insider trading because there are rules against it. Under that logic, we don't need the SEC. Right?

Selene
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By furious crouch on 12/5/2006 2:06 PM
I do not remember. What day is it?
Should I be : calmly reasoned, fair-minded?
or
Is it the day to be: unprofessional, irresponsible and erratic &
throw tantrums.

tell the lie often and to many, soon the lie will be truth. right?
WRONG.
scurry, hurry get more paint to cover this ugly picture.

no paint will cover it.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By we will get to truth on 12/5/2006 2:23 PM
Morgan Stanley better give John Mack his walking papers quick. The wild card is about to be played.

``We're not finished with this,'' Specter said as the hearing ended.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?

pid=20601087&sid=a_VGImrU6HSc&refer=home
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Sick of their Bullshit on 12/5/2006 2:24 PM
So I work my ass off to pay taxes so these rat bastards can steal more money from me and run the SEC like a little kingdom. I say fuck them all and....

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By btw on 12/5/2006 2:28 PM
why do the post not show up in the order they are posted?
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Blackbart on 12/5/2006 2:32 PM
Selene- For one who professes to have an inside track with family "deep in government" please shed some light as to why the DOJ would blatantly interfer with testimony being demanded by Senators in a public Senate hearing. Is the DOJ becoming as co-opted as the rest of the slime. "Up dog" is biting the wrong hands.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By sheep are getting restless on 12/5/2006 2:44 PM
Four enforcement officials at the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the division chief, on Tuesday denied allegations by a former agency attorney of political interference in an insider-trading investigation of Wall Street executive John Mack and a major hedge fund.
But another SEC official, also in sworn testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, bolstered the claims by fired attorney Gary Aguirre. "I have serious misgivings about many of the decisions made in this investigation. ... Something smells rotten," Eric Ribelin, branch chief of the SEC's market surveillance office, wrote in an e-mail to a supervisor in September 2005.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4381164.html
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By InThKnow on 12/5/2006 2:46 PM
Liz Moyers at Forbes.com:

http://www.forbes.com/business/2006/12/05/congress-hedge-funds-sec-biz-cx_lm_1205hedge.html
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Specter & Grassley fighting for sheep on 12/5/2006 2:51 PM
Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, took direct aim Tuesday at Securities and Exchange Commission officials who had been in charge of an investigation into allegations of insider trading by Pequot Capital Management.
In a Senate Judiciary Hearing on insider trading and hedge funds, Grassley took members of the agency to task for their handling of the investigation and the firing of a former SEC investigator who is now trying to blow the whistle on the matter.
"The more I look, the more troubled I get," said Grassley, who also chairs the Senate Finance Committee and who has requested information from the former investigator, Gary Aguirre, as well as from the SEC about its handling of the investigation.

http://www.forbes.com/business/2006/12/05/congress-hedge-

funds-sec-biz-cx_lm_1205hedge.html
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By rtway1 on 12/5/2006 2:53 PM
Ranger you have made valid points that follow the normal course. However we live in different times with different ways to communicate. I beleive that once a powerful union or administrator gets its mamary glands in the wringer or even thinks it can happen, the press would be on this right now. Many pensions are in a precarious state as we speak without the news that is oozing out slowly.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Honkytonker on 12/5/2006 3:10 PM
>>Specter is getting set to introduce a bill that would make hedge funds that invest pension assets to register, require them to set up ethics codes and compliance programs, and give monetary rewards to individuals who draw regulators' attention to insider trading.<< From Liz Moyer's article today in Forbes.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By anthony kalantzis on 12/5/2006 3:26 PM
makin money email me i have some questions i would like to ask you
tkalantzis@yahoo.com
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Let Them Eat Krispy Kremes on 12/5/2006 3:29 PM
Richest 2 pct own more than half the world: study

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-12-05T131213Z_01_L05333100_RTRUKOC_0_US-WEALTH-SURVEY.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-newsOne-8
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Wicked World on 12/5/2006 4:13 PM

Bobo, if you don't already have it and you're interested, I have the audio. I can chop it up by witness into mp3. I could forward to you as soon as Wednesday.

Just let me know.

Wicked
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Wicked World on 12/5/2006 4:25 PM

A few things that are news to me and would appreciate a brief insight from someone knowledgeable:

The SEC Inspector General who conferred with his counsel. What's this guy do? Is he a "go-between" the SEC and DOJ?

I thought the Judiciary Cmte. had oversight of the DOJ in the same manner that the Banking Cmte. has it over the SEC. If so, why's the DOJ seemingly (via the Inspector Gen.) "obstructing" this matter? Is it because there really is a DOJ investigation at risk or what? Or am I totally off base?

Was one of the SEC witnesses the same who wrote a letter to the editor recently and now works for a notorious short hedgie?
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Wicked World on 12/5/2006 4:31 PM

n-tres-ted,

"Another thing I thought was particularly significant this morning. Specter moved Linda Thomsen from the first panel to the second panel. When the second panel was preparing to testify, Specter stood and required each of them to swear under oath to tell the truth."

I saw that but did not think of that implication. That's a good interpretation! I hope it's what it looks like.



"Did anyone view the panel of witnesses this morning and come away with renewed confidence that the SEC is policing the U. S. markets effectively?"

Nope.


Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By SteveM on 12/5/2006 4:46 PM
I saw Charlie Gasparino on CNBC talking about the hearing. He claimed the SEC is doing a good job.

Who got to him? When did he change his sing?
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Be Smart! on 12/5/2006 4:54 PM
If I worked for the SEC and was worried about my ass I would seek out Specter and Grassley, get ammunity and run my mouth off!
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By InTheKnow on 12/5/2006 5:28 PM
UPDATE: SEC Atty Testimony Adds To Pequot Probe Concerns

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
December 5, 2006 3:28 p.m.

(Adds details from Ribelin e-mail in third paragraph, excerpts from exchange between Sen. Specter and Hanson in seventh and eighth paragraphs, historical perspective in 10th paragraph and comments from Specter in 11th paragraph.)


By Siobhan Hughes
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--A Securities and Exchange Commission attorney on Tuesday stepped before Congress and confirmed he had warned in 2005 that "something smells rotten" about the agency's handling of an insider-trading probe of hedge-fund Pequot Capital Management.

The testimony from Eric Ribelin, an SEC attorney who works in the office of market surveillance, provides a leg of support for the claims of former SEC enforcement attorney Gary Aguirre. Aguirre says he was fired in September 2005 after his supervisors reversed course and stopped him from issuing subpoenas to current Morgan Stanley (MS) Chief Executive John Mack, who Aguirre suspected of tipping off Pequot. SEC officials said they fired Aguirre because his behavior became erratic and he couldn't get along with his colleagues.

"I have serious misgivings about many decisions made in this investigation," Ribelin wrote in September 2005 to Robert Hanson, an SEC branch chief who had supervised Aguirre. "I don't know what all has driven the decisions. Something smells rotten, though."

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., called the hearing to publicly air allegations that the Pequot probe was derailed by political influence. The SEC staff closed its investigation of Pequot and Mack last week without recommending enforcement action. Morgan Stanley has said that Mack, who testified to the SEC this past August, cooperated in the probe.

SEC enforcement director Linda Thomsen, former SEC associate enforcement director Paul Berger, SEC assistant director Mark Kreitman, and Hanson joined forces to testify under oath that their probe of Pequot was not derailed for political reasons. The SEC enforcement attorneys - representing the entire chain of command to whom Aguirre reported - said they hadn't had enough information to make it worthwhile to subpoena Mack.

Specter and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, were skeptical about the explanations of the SEC's enforcement attorneys. "The resistance of the SEC to taking Mr. Mack's testimony until after the present Congress put a spotlight on the issues raise serious questions for me about whether captains of industry get the same treatment as regular investors or whether they get treated with kid gloves," Grassley said as the hearing began.

Hanson said in written testimony that Aguirre had reached a "highly suspect and illogical conclusion" that Mack was the only person who met the profile of the tipper. Specter countered with a June 3, 2005, email in which Hanson had purportedly written that "Mack is another bad guy, in my view."

Hanson said he couldn't remember why he had written that about Mack, but that it might have been to encourage the Pequot investigation. "Looking back, in hindsight, those words were probably inappropriate," Hanson said. Hanson said he stands by his remarks that Aguirre's conclusions were illogical.

Specter's and Grassley's committees will release a report early next year that summarizes the evidence they have gathered through a congressional investigation. The SEC staff always has the option of reopening the Pequot investigation. However, that is deemed unlikely because it would suggest that the SEC's enforcement investigations are steered by Congress, undercutting its status as an independent agency.

The last time a high-ranking SEC attorney was publicly accused of glossing over important evidence was in 2003, when the SEC's Boston office was accused of brushing off evidence of a mutual-fund trading scandal. The head of that office, Juan Marcel Marcelino, subsequently stepped down from the SEC.

"We're not finished with this, ladies and gentlemen," Specter said at the conclusion of the hearing. He said pointedly that "people under oath" had "directly contradicted their testimony." he's accusing SEC personell of purjury, and it's not on TV. Amazing.

-By Siobhan Hughes, Dow Jones Newswires; 202-862-6654; Siobhan.Hughes@dowjones.com
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By RMR on 12/5/2006 6:21 PM
FWIW, I just emailed the following to Sens. Grassley and Specter.

SEC= Severely Endemically Corrupted

Senator--
Thank you so much for pursuing the truth re SEC looking the other way when it comes to enforcing the laws against securities manipulation. In the Judiciary Committee hearings today, you took a step towards trying to halt massive criminal activity that has corrupted our capital markets and stolen trillions from decent, hard working American investors. Criminality that has become insititutionalized and threatens to destory our capital formation system and economy. Please continue to lend your substantial credibility and sense of decency towards uncovering the ugly truth while there is still time to fix the problem. Millions of individual investors who have suffered at the hands of market manipulators abetted by the toothless venal SEC are looking to you with renewed hope,
RMRosenthal

I also sent a markedly different version to all Dem. Senators on the Committee berating them for ignoring the hearings and the underlying market manip they countenance by their disinterest. (unfortunately, Kennedy's email site is so botched it literally prevents communication from happening. Too bad because I had a special message for him refrencing his father, but...)
It may just be a drop in the ocean, but it is one of the few things we can do at the moment to express our outrage directly where it may get noticed.
I also sent a copy of bobo's lead and relevant comments to Gretchen Morgenson at the NY Times. I email her often and hope it might have a cumulative effect. I encourage others here to do whatever they can to start making some noise with local papers and politicians. All to gain and little to lose.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By no need to be on tv on 12/5/2006 6:41 PM
The sheep are already pissed off, no need for panic.
That is what the shorts want. Silently kicking their ass is fine.
No media dance needed.

many sheep and growing
http://www.petitiononline.com/mrktrfrm/petition.html
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Top 10.. Senator, I can't answer on 12/5/2006 7:47 PM
because:

1. My mommy says I can't talk to strangers.

2. I am soooooo guilty you would shit your pants if I told the truth.

3. My horoscope says I must remain silent today.

4. My wife said she would kick my butt if I made a fool of myself today by speaking.

5. I don't want to go to jail until after Christmas.

6. I would have to give back all of the hush money I have taken.

7. Chris Cox will uninvite me to his Christmas party.

8. Wall Street will make a fool out of me like they have done to Patrick Byrne for speaking the truth.

9. Johnny Mack has juice and I don't want any spilled on me.

10. Milberg Weiss said they would kick some money my way.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By selene on 12/5/2006 8:05 PM
Blackbart, the pirate is suppose.

To answer your question, only my dad is up dog. It's my uncles (3) that are Black (and they wouldn't have a bone in a spat between the executive branch and the legislative branch). A turf battle.

This may be a little Adam Smithish or not???

As explained to me, the unstated rule is this: the best way to keep our system of government strong is not to do what makes sense for the whole, but to do what keeps your branch as strong and powerful as it can be (within the rules of the system). So the Executive branch pushes for it's control and authority and the Congress pushes back. It kind of makes sense to me, and I suspect Sen. Spector understood that that was the DOJ's position. That is why he kept asking the IG what he wanted as opposed to what the DOJ wanted. That the DOJ was acting as a lawyer and that the client still had every ability to respond how he wanted inspite of that advice.

It's kind of like the branches of the military. It's best for the country if each branch pursues as much assets and power as it can get. ie. if a situation were to arise where the navy could be alocated a certain resource or opt to pass it on to the army because it made practical sense it is best for the navy and the country in the long run to ignore this latter logic and keep the resource for itself (and vice versa). This helps maintain the balance of power. Counter intuitive I know, but it does seem to have some merit.

Selene
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By funnybone on 12/5/2006 8:17 PM
Top 10.. Senator, I can't answer

thanks for the laugh.
Some have already shit their pants, that is the rotten smell. As they look around at each other asking what is that smell?
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Sledge on 12/5/2006 8:22 PM
I just listened to the hearing. Those two senators just literally ripped the SEC talking heads to pieces! I haven't heard two senators that pissed off in a long time and I would have to assume that a few SEC are going to roll in the end. Unreal!
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Predatory Lending on 12/5/2006 9:41 PM
"SBC shares tumble to half-year low
Nick Hasell
Revenue hit by low lending rates
Alarm as bank changes strategy

Shares in HSBC fell to a six-month low as Europe’s biggest bank gave warning that revenue growth had slowed in the third quarter amid worsening bad debts on both sides of the Atlantic."

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9063-2489180,00.html
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By wazamadawitu on 12/5/2006 10:26 PM
I just finished watching the Judiciary Committee televised hearing on CNN.
Damn great entertainment for sure! I've haven't seen such a bunch of squirmin' bastards since the Neuremberg trials. Talk about takin' 'em to the woodshed! Wow!
No doubt they'll have to reupholster those chairs cuz I do believe the seat leather must have been sucked up from all those sucking sphincters! Arlen...you da man! Go Gary!
...And stay tuned ladies and gentlemen..."We're not finished with this!" Luv it!
Remember one of the first white washes by the SEC? By Good ole boy from a dusty Mill Village on 12/5/2006 10:54 PM
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020717-574068.htm

a little wordy but worth the walk down memory lane...

First Chairman, then SENATOR and now GOVERNOR!!!

Seems the SEC is getting out the old playbook...
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By This Is Troubling on 12/6/2006 2:13 AM
Somebody should put the hearing out on youtube
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Hit the nail on the head on 12/6/2006 5:37 AM
Dave Patch has got it right from the beginning "INVESTIGATE THE SEC".

What a bunch of common garden variety theives. Stay tuned for more to come.

Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By hemingway811 on 12/6/2006 9:59 AM
C-SPAN3 has a video of yesterday's Hearing. I don't know how much longer it will be available, but it is there now.

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Wonder Boy on 12/5/2006 9:33 AM
The grilling of Stachnik (Inspector General) was good too------on advice of the DOJ I cannot discuss anything.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By gregcable2002 on 12/5/2006 9:35 AM
Mr Hanson may become the next whistleblower after today.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By mhelburn on 12/5/2006 9:36 AM
nooooo, Hanson has since met the slime and was schmoozed. All this trading and insider trading done secretly... and the only evidence visable is the timing.. Let's extend the time for the statute of limitations on trading...
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By gregcable2002 on 12/5/2006 9:41 AM
Anyone hear about the snake handler who handled king cobras for years without getting killed,well he just died from being bitten by one.Moral is,you play with snakes long enough your going to get bit.These guys and gals at the sec are playing with the snakes of wall street.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Hanson next new Hire at Morgan on 12/5/2006 9:42 AM
Hanson is definitely Morgan material
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By bobo on 12/5/2006 9:45 AM
Folks, what was fascinating to me is that these creeps have no problem misleading Congress - they really believe they are invulnerable and should answer to nobody. Specter and Grassley weren't having any of it. My favorite was the "I don't remember" shtick, followed closely by the "My attorney told me not to talk to you" bit.

Congress doesn't respond well to that, in my experience. We just saw a glimmer of the extent of how brazen their disregard for the rule of law is.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Ranger on 12/5/2006 9:52 AM
I have been reading and following this for years. I still believe the entire system will have to implode before any real change is made. I also believe if your interest is making money in the markets you have to trade with them not against them. That being said, the hearings were very good. I thought it was going to be a bashing of Aguirre but this was not the case at all. The cooruption is not a secret it is just not known by the masses. When the masses figure it out they have already lost thier retirement. That is the nature of crime. A crime has to be committed to prompt an investigation and then the facts have to be proven in a court. This always allows for the vicitims to sustain maximum losses. It is how the innocent until proven guilty system works. I stand for this system but having seen thousands of folks take losses in order to get the bad guy one has to wonder how much money is going to be taken from the greatest generation in American the baby boomers retirement before the system fails and gets fixed. Folks if you are in the markets and locked into a 401K plan or pension plan get diversified and have a plan to eiliminate the risk with long term holdings if something goes wrong. The rapid declines of weatlh in the markets are real. In May of this year the sell off was faster then anything I have ever seen in the past 15 years. The computer driven hedge funds can take money out the markets faster then anybody else and they are set up to protect assets. You should do the same. A 50% hit is better then a 90% hit. Just the way I see it.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Mississipibluggs on 12/5/2006 9:58 AM
One of the gems here was the admission by the gentlem from the IG that his activities are controlled by the Justice Department.

How many other situations is the IG's office handling so obediently?

Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By kevin on 12/5/2006 9:58 AM
Lil GW:

http://www.forbes.com/home/columnists/2006/12/04/grasso-cuomo-open-letter-oped-cx_gw_1205weiss.html
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By kevin on 12/5/2006 10:00 AM
I finally figured out what bothers me about the term "naked shorting". I don't have any problems against the guy doing the shorting - he is taking advantage of whatever trading strategies are available to him.

My problem is with what happens in the bowels of the prime brokerages where they think it is okay to fail to deliver and net it with fail to receives, a the customer's expense.

The fails could be from either long or short sales. The problem isn't the guy doing the shorting, it is the custodian stealing from the introducing brokerages they have trust agreements with.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By hemingway811 on 12/5/2006 10:01 AM
The written statements of all who testified are now postedL

http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=2437
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Mack the Knife on 12/5/2006 10:02 AM
Who says it does not pay to be wealthy and have friends in high places? I am untouchable! I even have the DOJ working for my benefit ala Hanson basically pleading the fifth. " I have been advised by the DOJ not to comment" Hahahaha! Thanks Chris Cox I owe ya onefor sending your fools. See ya around suckers. Hahahahahaha.........
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By hemingway811 on 12/5/2006 10:04 AM
"One of the gems here was the admission by the gentlem from the IG that his activities are controlled by the Justice Department."

In that respect, the investigations can never be truly independent.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By Officer Barbrady of the SEC sez: Nothing to see he on 12/5/2006 10:05 AM
We have contradictatory statements under oath to a Senate Investigative committee by current Government employees, whose future awaits them in cushy Wall Street jobs.

The payoff for their testimony?

Jail or Wall Street

Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By gregcable2002 on 12/5/2006 10:11 AM
Now we see the DOJ fighting against the senate investigative committee,WOW,Aguirre really does have the goods on someone.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By danny on 12/5/2006 10:12 AM
Repost, but those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it and I don't want another world wide depression.

Read this series of Time magazine articles:

*** Feb. 1929 before the crash ***

Deja vu, senators from Utah, corrupt brokerages and a crash for the people.

"Since, however, the very Senators and Representatives who were most inclined to view Wall Street as the heart of the money octopus also regarded the Federal Reserve System as at least a tentacle of the same monster, the banker was scolded while the broker was flayed."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,880512-1,00.html

*** November 1929 ***

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,787517,00.html?internalid=AE

The Sith Lord of 1929:

"No one could quite believe that Mr. Livermore was, in storybook fashion, tsar of a band of bears which had fanatically obeyed his orders for two months. But certain it seemed that a colossal effort to reduce the price of stocks had had masterful direction, beginning with the selling of U. S. securities by the French Government and other European investors weeks ago."

*** 1930 ***

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,787624,00.html

"Afterwards in the quiet security of an upstairs study President Hoover heard Richard Whitney, president of the New York Stock Exchange, and Allen Ledyard Lindley, its vice president, talk about the stockmarket, bear raids, short sales. President Hoover was vitally interested because the recent fall of stocks below the lows of last November's crash focused the business depression in all its gloom before a nationwide electorate on its way to the polls."
"Last week it was estimated that the Soviet Government had made close to $1,000,000 profit in a month by covering the short wheat sales which precipitated Secretary of Agriculture Hyde's violent but short-lived anti-Red campaign."

*** 1934 Pecora Hearings ***

http://jcgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,754118,00.html
Kind of like lying on FOCUS reports.

"Mr. Pecora's figures were out of focus because not all brokers answered his questionnaire in the same way. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. and the House of Morgan reported only their modest income from commissions, not their underwriting and banking income."
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By gregcable2002 on 12/5/2006 10:12 AM
someone who has juice.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By danny on 12/5/2006 10:16 AM
Catch this?, "Mr. Pecoras figures were out of FOCUS", the $63 billion figure comes from FOCUS reports built on the honor system from US based NYSE operations only, with no likelihood of an audit from the SEC.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By danny on 12/5/2006 10:18 AM
Financial and Operational Combined Uniform Single Report

http://www.sec.gov/about/forms/formx-17a-5_2f.pdf
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By lenofus on 12/5/2006 10:26 AM
I'm gloating. Is that wrong? Because if it is, I don't care. Hansen is looking at jail. Too bad, because he was the best witness we had.

The idea that people can work for an agency of the United States Government and do this offends every person in this country. It is treason, plain and simply, and should be dealt with in that manner.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By treason on 12/5/2006 10:28 AM
Government employees should be loyal to the constitution, not foreign money interests.
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By By The Way on 12/5/2006 10:32 AM
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Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By bobo on 12/5/2006 10:33 AM
I don't call it naked shorting anymore. I refer to it as delivery failures and market manipulation, which is the desired result of the delivery failure. They fail to deliver in order to manipulate the stock. Often it isn't marked as a short sale, so in my opinion the naked shorting nomenclature is being advanced by Wall Street to create a strawman argument - "Shorting is good!"

OK. Maybe it is. But is market manipulation good? 10b5 violation?
Re: SEC - "It's All A Dirty Lie!" Aguirre: "They've Offered No Proof Since This Started." By hemingway811 on 12/5/2006 10:34 AM
The previous Judiciary Hearing on hedge funds was held Wed., June 28th.

Hanson's written testimony states he and Kreitman drafted Aguirre's supplemental evaluation on July 1st (SATURDAY). Now that's real dedication. It sure looks like it was a matter of urgency.

The new evaluation was written subsequent to Paul Berger asking Hanson "whether Mr. Aguirre's evaluation accurately reflected his workplace behavior." I wonder what prompted that question?

The timing of this and a number of other events has destroyed the SEC's credibility. I bet these guys are meeting right now to evaluate damage control.

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