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Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders...

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Posted by:   bobo 11/20/2006 12:11 PM

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Herb Greenberg, arguably the most aberrational "journalist" working the hedge fund lackey beat, is cranking up the wacky meter into hyper-drive with his wild-eyed paranoid ramblings.

Incoherent reasoning (if you can call it reasoning)? You got it with the lapdog. It's a conspiracy-fest in krazeee town, and nutty is on the menu.

What am I talking about?

Well, everyone's favorite hedge fund choagie is seeing dead people again, this time on national TV.

Consider this exchange, from CNBC "Squawk Box" on Thursday, where he makes it seem that Allied is a scandal-ridden company:

Herb Greenberg, Columnist, MarketWatch.com:  “Finally, we have Allied Capital which is the company that I have claimed has pretexted me. They say—well, two years later they said…we don’t, we don’t’ think you have...

But anyway, they are in the middle of a whole lot of investigations, Joe. And they just came out with their 10Q and added some new disclosure about investigations. Again....stock very strong."

Now, I have it on good authority that Allied Capital called the network to complain, which resulted in CNBC making a public retraction - if you can accept the idea that it is a retraction/correction absent any genuine remorse:

Joe Kernan, Co-Anchor: 

“All right, we have a quick clarification for you…yesterday at this time, we talked with MarketWatch’s, Herb Greenberg, about several stocks—one of them being, Allied Capital.

Herb admittedly does not have any evidence, at this point, that Allied Capital or anyone associated with that company pretexted him. And Allied Capital has denied any such activities.

Normally we say MarketWatch and CNBC Contributor...this time we're just gonna go with MarketWatch."

Becky Quick, Co-Anchor:  “Yeah, when we do a clarification then we’ll go ahead with that.”   

 So let's go through the obligatory deconstruction of this whole bit. First, note that CNBC says he lacks any proof "at this point."

"At this point, Elvis is still dead." "At this point, the earth still appears to be round, not flat."

That would be like, well, he has no evidence whatsoever, none, nada, a big goose egg. Because there is none.

Unlike my experience with Jesse Eisinger of the WSJ, wherein Jesse had "somehow" gotten NCANS bank records and cell phone records, and was showing that information off to Byrne in an interview.

That would be where there was clear evidence of pretexting by someone who then gave the confidential info to Eisinger - who presumably saw nothing wrong with getting those records, believing that they were acquired innocently...?!

And which same info apparently found its way into the mits of Carol, who was calling off the records a few hours after Jesse was pulled off the case...

See the hypocrisy at work? When I wrote SABEW about this, they turned a blind eye to the clear, unmistakable evidence, and pretended it hadn't happened. Wouldn't want their flagship members having to live up to any sort of ethical standards, or to have to answer to this sort of thing. Tut tut. Can't have that. Better to simply say I'm "anti-journalist."

Meanwhile, pro-journalist CNBC gives Herb carte blanche to spray venom and libel companies on national TV.

And why not? Who's going to stop it? Not the SEC. No, they apparently have a hands off policy when it comes to the press going after the latest short targets for some connected hedge funds with "juice."

Don't have anything real to tarnish their reputation with?  Not a problem. Just invent something ugly, no proof required, as everyone knows nobody will ever sue a journalist for this sort of thing.

Unless you are Calaruso, wanting to abuse the Post's legal clout, and sue bloggers like myself.

See, that is different - wanting to silence your critics via lawsuits, exactly as you are claiming unethical companies are doing? It's OK to do that if you are the press. Not so good if you are one of those evil companies whose stock "happens" to go down once the switch has been flipped, and your name is being dragged through the mud by the same 6 or 8 "journalists." Then, if you want legal discovery of a collusive scheme to manipulate stocks, you are bad and wrong. Bad bad bad. Powerful NY newspaper wanting to crush blogger? Good. Company being victimized by miscreants and trying to get the legal system to do something about it? Bad bad bad.

So again - want to go on national TV and parade your disturbances about, making wild unsubstantiated allegations while attacking your buddy's short targets? Not a problem.

It's business as usual on CNBC, apparently, when long after the damage is done they will offer some half-hearted bromide by way of pseudo-correction/retraction.

Happy Monday, everyone.

Copyright ©2006 Bob O'Brien
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Comments (31)
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By ted on 11/20/2006 1:09 PM
Bob, did you ever go to the police? It seems like a serious crime that they were able to get those records.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By Bobo on 11/20/2006 2:35 PM
We contacted the FBI and the bank. They took down the info and did nothing I can tell.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By bobo on 11/20/2006 10:31 PM
Getbobo:

That was back when they were just sure I worked for Patrick, or was married to his cousin or something. They've since figured out that I am doing this avocationally - which they naturally don't understand, as they couldn't imagine doing anything simply because it was right.

It confuses them.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By kevin on 11/20/2006 10:36 PM
Bobo, do you have an update on the progress on the various trials (Sedona, OSTK, NFI, Biovail, any I missed, etc.?)

The bad guys seem really good at the stall and getting cases thrown out on technicalities.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By bbhindyou on 11/21/2006 5:23 AM
MM's you have just taken the american market for all it's worth!
Whats next!
Euronext!



sorry to repeat myself but I don't think it's anything anyone remembers from months ago ,it also still rings true.Truer than ever.
Like the baseball players being asked "You just won the world series ,what are you going to do now?" and they say "Go to disney world"
I get the feeling I could post this every few months without change and it would STILL apply and nobody would notice.
Sarcasm is a dying art form that no one appreciates.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By mhelburn on 11/21/2006 6:26 AM
Remember dropping the subscription newsletter?.. not enough hours in the day, but he has time for a blog where he assumes that someone who questions his motives, ethics, and unsubstantiated claims... is one of a host of people.. and can't figure out who it is. So much for his research!

And the DOJ doesn't use pretexting.... they get subpoenas...

Shrill shill, stand-up (while you can) guy.

I'm certain that our jocular journalist reads every 10-Q.. especially those with a hundred pages and comes up with only the negative... I'm not suggesting that one of his short buddies pointed this out or knew there was an inquiry as they were the ones that got their future employees to launch same. So much easier to find the inquiry if you know it is coming. Are they underwater... or launching another attack? What is the payback for humiliating oneself daily? It's the Wall Street reacharound. Problem with stock manipulation is that you have to have somebody expose this position in public.. and Mr. Hanjob is not only willing, he enjoys it.

Zillions of 10-Qs, zillions of pages... how does an inquiry into a company that is on page 82 make it into Lapdog's realm of reference? Even the targeted stocks would require a team of researchers to ferret this out.... unless you knew it was coming..

The security at the SEC is unparallelled.


Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By smuopr8r on 11/21/2006 6:33 AM
How is it Herb continues to get airtime with the anchors lambasting him and having to appologize for him?
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By GetBobo on 11/20/2006 2:58 PM
Did you ever see this?

http://10trades.blogspot.com/2006/07/100-reward-for-dirt-on.html

"In the meantime, I am very curious to know who owns and writes for thesanitycheck.com and what financial ties they have to Overstock.com Inc and the Byrne Family. I am offering a $100 to anyone who can provide me with verifiable information by Nonn Friday the 28, 2006 New York time.

Email me at jakeandwolf@yahoo.com"

Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By rtway1 on 11/20/2006 3:01 PM
Wouldn't it be ironic if one of the gangsta rap organizations went public and they came out and publicly admitted that some of there dealings were questionable and told Herb about them. Would he have the gonads to report this knowing full well that crossing the street getting on an elevator might have a bad ending. I doubt it. I hope the day comes when he makes the wrong and rigged call and he has to atone for it.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By geppetto on 11/20/2006 3:12 PM
We need to understand who the people are behind the scenes pulling the strings.

http://www.ladenburg.com/investors.htm

Names like Carl Icahn, a major shareholder and Phillip Frost, vice chairman of the American Stock exchange and billionaire.

Ladenburg Thalman was part of the conspiracy to take down Sedona and was one of the largest PIPE players.

They are 10% owned by the company that owns the Berlin Exchange, which listed hundreds of penny stocks against their permission when the new NASD anti naked shorting rules came in (the rule the SEC killed because it was working).

Ladenburg Thalman discloses that they have huge off balance sheet risk as all their customers deal with their undisclosed clearing brokerage, but they guarantee all the trades on behalf of their customers.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By prime on 11/20/2006 3:21 PM
This is an important lawsuit in case you haven't seen it:

http://www.asensioexposed.com/etgnakedshort.pdf

It's worth a skim through. The prime brokerages have colluded to use the NSCC to clear the cash, while they don't bother settling the shares x-clearing.

They charge the funds for covering naked shorts that they themselves don't cover.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By ted on 11/20/2006 3:35 PM
Ladenburg uses National Financial Services to clear (Fidelity).

http://www.ladenburg.com/bcp.htm
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By lots of pissed off people around on 11/20/2006 3:43 PM
SANJAY KUMAR, the jailed former chief executive of Computer Associates, faces being forced to sell off his vast family fortune to pay more than $123 million (£65 million) in fines, restitution and legal fees connected to the multimillion-dollar fraud he masterminded at the company.


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13129-2458981.html
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By sgaah on 11/20/2006 4:20 PM
This is the self regulatory association that manages international repurchase agreements. Rather than borrow shares, you buy them with a promise to sell them at some, possibly undated point in the future. The buyer is long and the seller is long by virtue of having a contract to repurchase.

http://www.icma-group.org/international1.html

The whole repo market is many quadrillion dollars, but the equity piece is almost $6 trillion or 1,000 times the $6 billion the DTC says fails to deliver.

"This market has a significant role in the international securities market as a whole by providing liquidity, marketability and in offering opportunities for the mitigation of credit risk. The most recent ICMA repo survey has set the lower boundary for the size of the market at EUR 5.8 trillion."

"Due to its inherent cross border nature, the international capital market is not subject to the same degree of regulation that governs domestic primary and secondary markets."
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By sgaah on 11/20/2006 4:23 PM
The repo council is a body of these guys.

http://www.ipma.org.uk/

Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By sgaah on 11/20/2006 4:27 PM
Rules on naked shorting. Note it is important to not restrict the supply of stock artificially to make prices go up.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/markets/gilts/stockborrowing.pdf
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By churn, baby on 11/20/2006 4:46 PM
Discount Brokers Gone Wild

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15816295/
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By we the people on 11/20/2006 4:58 PM
can MAKE a difference.
Hope some pockets feel it.

``I and senior management agree with the American public that this was an ill-considered project,'' Murdoch said today in an e-mailed statement.
The cancellation comes after as many as a dozen Fox affiliate stations refused to air the show, which was scheduled to run during so-called sweeps, the period when Nielsen Media Research collects viewer data used to set local TV advertising rates. ReganBooks paid Simpson an advance of $3.5 million, according to Newsweek magazine.
Books that have already been printed will be destroyed, said News Corp. spokesman Andrew Butcher.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?

pid=20601087&sid=aJupV52aHXIw&refer=home
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By deal or no deal on 11/20/2006 5:02 PM
"In my opinion, it sure does seem like some type of deal was reached and was hopefully related to handling some of the “naked short selling”1 and other less than ethical issues that have been mentioned by Jim Puplava and others, but holding one’s breath is not recommended. I also have more than a few questions about what the various banks were doing with those trillion dollars of Treasury securities during this year, and the word manipulation has occurred to me maybe once or even twice… but facts are scarce and I don’t know."

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2005/1128.html
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By shield us from covering FRAUD on 11/20/2006 5:10 PM
The U.S. auditing industry may have a key ally in a decade-long battle to shield itself from liability for corporate fraud: one of the Securities and Exchange Commission's top three accountants.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?

pid=20601109&sid=aBN3aOO110mA&refer=home
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By Patchie on 11/20/2006 5:18 PM
The irony in this whole Herb thing is the personal vendetta he has taken against Patrick Byrne for making "unsubstantiated accusations" claiming this is a personality trait that makes Byrne a bad guy. Now here it is that Greenberg writes a Marketwatch story, puts out several blogs, and then goes on CNBC and spews unsubstantiated allegations and suddenly that is okay.

I tried to put this on Herb's blog but...Herb is now playing a Gary Weiss and is having to approve every blog before it is posted. Obviously a post that exxposes teh double standards of this shill will never see the light of day on Marketwatch. I would suggest you all try and post it anyway to simply get oon his feeble nerves.

I think I can actually hear the thinning hair being pulled from his head as he wades through all the vile.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By Wicked World on 11/20/2006 6:20 PM

Patchie,

Just want to say I've enjoyed seeing you royally kickin' his a*s up and down his blog the last few months.
*** Off topic but very interesting *** By On Jag Media on 11/20/2006 6:52 PM
Marketwatchers,

How does oddities in a market surface? Who finds trading concerns and who then addresses them?

Lets take the trading in Jag Media (JAGH) today. The stock started the morning trading down from the previous day close of $0.24 by opening up at $0.22. Soon however trading increased as buyers, and lots of them, began to purchase stock. Within the first 90 minutes of the market opening over 200,000 shares had traded at the offer of $0.25. Recognize that 200,000 shares represents nearly 3X the normal daily volume but on this day the shares were matched with a seller willing to stand tall and take every purchase on the offer - never once considering more may be made if the offer were raised. Eventually the offer did get raised and with the buying coming into the market, the stock ultimately peaked at $0.35. The volume, by 3:30 had reached over 850,000 shares and at precisely 3:30 a block of 100,000 shares was executed at $0.3231.

But now comes the question of market integrity.

Throughout this day, nearly 200,000 shares were executed and displayed as trade volume to only later be cancelled or removed as reported volume. In many cases the trades cancelled appeared to merely be doubly recording of the same block trade (15 - 18 incidents) while others were simply trades executed and trades cancelled. One was for a block equaling 75,000 shares.

So how do so many reporting errors take place in a single stock day in and day out? How is a trade for 75,000 shares executed to only later be cancelled? Was the seller not willing to sell the shares as represented by the market or did the seller not have shares in inventory to account for the offer being published? Either way, 75,000 was traded and 75,000 was then cancelled.

Remove the 100,000 funky cross at 3:30 (which is beginning to be a very repeatable pattern) and the 200,000 shares posted and then cancelled represents nearly 20% of the total trade volume.

How hard is it to post a trade? Is Jag Media trading in some new fangled manner that is confusing the market makers responsible for posting trade executions? How normal is it to have 20% of the trade volume mis-reported?

Regulators have stated publicly that they want investors to raise issues that are suspect. For months now I have done just that. Who is this large seller that has such control over a market that they are in some kind of a contract with many market makers who post a large block at the end of every trade day? This investor, willing to sell down a position which now includes more than 1 Million shares and more than 2.4% of the shares issued and outstanding. A seller who had such control when there was no market making allowances (unsolicited) and a seller who remains dominant once the market makers have filed.

I believe that the trading patterns in Jag Media are very deliberate and can be used to understand how offshore accounts can control and manipulate a security. Following the trade tickets from all of these sales and 3:30 posts will most likely lead regulators down that dirty road to trouble. The seller has escalated their patterns as the volume in the company increases. A real seller, simply wanting to be out of a position, would be done by now (3 months later).

The data, and trade tickets tell the story. Follow the tickets to the money.

How ludicrous does this all get? To end this day a trade posted at $0.34 and after this posted trade was executed the Offer was DROPPED to $0.32. Nearly all trading - post 2:00 was above $0.32, trading representing hundreds of thousands of shares, and yet to close the day the offer is dropped as a seller is suddenly desperate to get out at the close.

Normal markets don't happen like this. This isn't rocket science we are dealing with here. Today's volume was more than 10 times normal trade volume and a kamikaze still existed at the end of the trading day as if there was not enough market to get out sooner.


Dave Patch


Time & Sales

Price Size Exch Time
0.31 2500 OBB 15:52:42
0.31 500 OBB 15:52:38
0.31 3400 OBB 15:52:12
0.32 5500 OBB 15:52:01
0.34 7000 OBB 15:50:11
0.33 7000 OBB 15:50:11
0.34 0 OBB 15:48:25
0.33 5000 OBB 15:46:46
0.34 5000 OBB 15:46:46
0.34 5000 OBB 15:46:46
0.323 100000 OBB 15:30:47
0.32 9000 OBB 15:23:32
0.31 9000 OBB 15:23:32
0.325 2000 OBB 15:15:59
0.33 5000 OBB 15:15:53
0.32 5000 OBB 15:15:53
0.325 2000 OBB 15:08:52
0.325 700 OBB 15:08:52
0.33 1000 OBB 15:06:48
0.33 5000 OBB 14:49:43
0.34 5000 OBB 14:49:43
0.34 5000 OBB 14:49:43
0.33 15000 OBB 14:48:34
0.34 15000 OBB 14:48:34
0.34 4000 OBB 14:46:48
0.34 11000 OBB 14:46:48
0.335 15000 OBB 14:46:46
0.34 5000 OBB 14:39:57
0.33 5000 OBB 14:39:55
0.33 5000 OBB 14:39:36

Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By you picked a fight with the wrong crowd on 11/20/2006 7:14 PM
liar
fraud
steal
belittle
laughter
scare tactics
hacking computers
pretexting
white powder
poison
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By interesting. very interesting. on 11/20/2006 7:55 PM
ted says:
Ladenburg uses National Financial Services to clear (Fidelity).

http://www.ladenburg.com/bcp.htm

some wild stories about fidelity and hacking going on. interesting.
hide behind someone if you can huh?
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By sometimes one has to get cranky on 11/20/2006 8:10 PM
guess that time is getting near...........


Is this for real? You wouldn't pull our leg would you. If our leg gets pulled anymore by all of this bullshit,
it will be pull from our body.

http://www.thesanitycheck.com/Blogs/BudBurrellsBlog/tabid/84/EntryID/528/Default.aspx


How much time should we give them before we go to battle?
Have you signed up to get your amo? Sign up below.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mrktrfrm/petition.html
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By Patchie on 11/20/2006 8:19 PM
Wicked...Thanks I enjoy (notice present tense) the challenge. Herb is an idiot when it comes to electronics. LMAO

Did you notice that we got the CNBC transcript posted on Herb's Blog? It is also on the SABEW blog.

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/greenberg/2006/11/more_investigat.html

http://weblogs.jomc.unc.edu/talkingbiznews/?p=1362#comment-27756

Keep getting this transcript disseminated. It reduces herb's credibility.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By Mosses on 11/20/2006 8:34 PM
Check it out Bob. Rocker was sued once before and guess what?

Negative analyst reports

http://www.asensioexposed.com/AREMappend.pdf
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By otc on 11/20/2006 9:42 PM
Jag, I've noticed the same thing. Sometimes 80% of the volume will be fake, only to be cancelled later.

Let's say the stock is trading all day on the offer at $.40 with real buy orders coming in. The market is $.35-.40.

The frustrated market makers will suddenly do a flurry of fake trades at .35 and suddenly they will all simultaneously move it to .34 - .35 to make it look like there is a whack of selling.

Simultaneously six market makers will turn what used to be the bid into the offer when there hasn't been one single seller all day.

If the offer continues to get hit, they will widen the spread to maybe $.34 - .45 to purposely dry the volume up to zero. Who is going to buy a stock with that kind of spread?

The SEC would have to be blind as a bat to not be aware of the massive theft from regular investors.

I asked before, why do we have market makers? In Canada they use a computer to match bids and offers automatically. No parasite takes a piece of the transaction and the computer ensures the first one to place the order is the first one to get filled.

It aint rocket science.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By we will win on 11/20/2006 9:45 PM
some asses are about to be kicked.
Re: Lapdog Gets Case of Howling Fantods, Scares Bystanders... By bobo on 11/20/2006 10:16 PM
Mosses: Just because a guy gets sued for using manipulative techniques, and then the company ALSO turns out to be crooked, doesn't mean the original accusation was in error. That is a common logical fallacy.

Rocker's innocence or guilt in the OSTK case has zip to do with Aremisoft, and whether they were crooks.

Sort of like, being accused of rape and arrested for it, but getting off because the victim chose to forego the trial hardship, doesn't mean that the latest rape charge is baseless.


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