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Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux

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Posted by:   bobo 10/1/2006 8:47 AM

I just got an email about a new Wikipedia entry, that as of this moment, has been unedited by any of the sock puppets our "Ya Gotta Read 'lilGW's Books" Wiki editorial staff seem to feel compelled to use when editing naked short selling related articles.

The article is on the Market Reform Movement. I am not the author. One of you fine folks committed the 20 minutes to doing so. For that I thank  you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_Reform_Movement

Given that it is factual, and complies with all Wiki rules for posting an article, it will be interesting to see how long it takes for one of the lowlife sock puppets to start butchering it, or to delete it entirely.

As with most propaganda control stories, if I am correct that Wiki has been hijacked by a small network, whose agenda is to impose their spin upon the world, it won't be long. Let's all set our watches.

 
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Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By msucog on 10/1/2006 9:55 AM
ever looked into who runs and is on the board of trustees at wikipedia? two Chicoage Options Associates bigwhigs...
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees
apparently, after a brief search, there are people not very happy with Chicago Options Associates or Mr. Davis...not particularly related to this thread, but interesting...
http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2006/1stDistrict/March/Html/1041110.htm
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By bobo on 10/1/2006 10:02 AM
Interesting. The Chicago exchange is where all the suspicious big block trades occur in NFI and OSTK and the rest of the SHO list stocks.

Curiouser and curiouser.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By By Wikipedia Entries Deleted on 10/2/2006 4:21 AM
When editing the Wikipedia site save whole sections and when they delete the edits you can repaste the whole section that you edited back.

If those scumbags want to play games we can keep them busy forever!
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By Wikipedia Entries Deleted on 10/2/2006 4:22 AM
When editing the Wikipedia site save whole sections and when they delete the edits you can repaste the whole section that you edited back.

If those scumbags want to play games we can keep them busy forever!
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By stryker-ny on 10/2/2006 4:38 AM
Bunny...Thats why I believe Universal Express's ( USXP ) lawsuit against the SEC is so important. There is no way the SEC can justify their position as protectors of the people...
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By we're winning on 10/2/2006 5:38 AM
A friend of mine is a cop and he said there is nothing as scary to him as an angry crowd. The cop has tear gas, tasers, guns and the ability to call for unlimited help, but the angry crowd has all the power.

We are winning and soon the lil gw's of the world will realize it isn't wise to make themselves the face of this crime.

It's crazy that the activists have to be afraid of the criminals. It should be the other way around.
Look at the discussion part on the wiki page on naked shorting By newspaper on 10/2/2006 6:42 AM
you will see how many edits there have been. If you edit they will delete. if you edit again they will ban you just like that.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By bobo on 10/2/2006 7:50 AM
Why would one want to allow any dissenting view go up on your propaganda site when you are uninterested in facts that demonstrate your entire article is a lie?

I would also encourage putting the letter from the Utah Securities Commissioner there - unless of course Wiki's 'lilGW sock puppet editor Matanmoreland is going to take the position that the US Chamber of Commerce, former undersecretary to Clinton, Governor and security regulator of Utah are all unreliable crazies, and only he is trustworthy...
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By yoda on 10/2/2006 8:32 AM
more on the mob and new york:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061002/ap_on_go_ot/terror_and_the_mob_8

"Organized crime syndicates could facilitate money transfers or laundering, human smuggling, identification fraud or explosives and weapons acquisitions, officials said.

The options are many for terrorists groups.

There are the five reputed La Cosa Nostra families in New York, Russian criminal enterprises from Brighton Beach in the New York borough of Brooklyn to Moscow, and the emerging Asian crime syndicates that operate in many Islamic countries with al-Qaida offshoots."
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By InTheKnow on 10/2/2006 9:04 AM
I put the US Chamber of Commerce and Utah Chamber of Commerce back p on Wikipedia. Lets see how long that lasts, betcah it's gone tomorrow!
Read this about AWYB By Newspaper on 10/2/2006 12:37 PM
American Way Business Development Corp. (OTC: AWYB) is yet again the talk of the micro cap world. With only 2.8 million free trading shares in the public float of AWYB, and volume averaging nearly double or triple that daily on no change in share structure, investors have speculated that there is potential for a massive naked short in AWYB stock. A non objecting beneficial ownership list that is due to be released by the company should help provide some evidence that a naked short position does exist. However, for a lot of investors, the only confirmation that is needed is to look at the stock price and see that it is climbing once again, up $.12 to $.52 on an astronomical 7.6 million shares, nearly triple the amount of shares in the public float.
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Scroll down on this Word on the street page as they have a few articles on AWYB.

http://www.antandsons.com/wordonthestreet.html
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By InTheKnow on 10/2/2006 12:43 PM
Just as in the Foley scandal these scumbags nin the government know all about waht is going on and do nothing about it!

SCUMBAGS ALL!
the new wiki page on nss is looking ok By wiki page on 10/2/2006 4:58 PM
i bet they will tear it all down very soon.
Why does GW write books that represent a polar anti-thesis vs. his fight against market reform? By JR on 10/2/2006 10:53 PM
On one hand he writes books entitled "Wall Street versus America: The rampant and dishonesty that imperil your investments", but then he vehemently opposes any sort of market reforms that one would believe he supports, based on his books.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By Daniel Brandt on 10/1/2006 11:02 AM
Jimmy Wales and Michael E. Davis are from Chicago Options Associates. Wales was the Research Director and Davis the CEO. Davis now lives in Florida, near Wales, and handles the money for Wikimedia Foundation. A third trustee is Tim Shell, CEO of Bomis, Inc. This is a soft-porn site started by Wales after he left Chicago. These three trustees are set for life (read the bylaws), and never stand for election. Two other trustees are elected. Three out of five votes means that control is locked in.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By Jackolantern on 10/1/2006 11:04 AM
Bob,

You ever read Gary Weiss's book?

Would like to see you review it.

Jack
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By msucog on 10/1/2006 11:20 AM
i suggest http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=Main_Page which details a much different side of wikipedia and the major players
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By bobo on 10/1/2006 11:51 AM
I'm afraid that my appreciation of his nominal talents are such from his vapid and poorly-crafted blog, that any take I had on his book would be hopelessly biased.

Then again, as I can buy a copy of his first book for a dime, and his second for around $5, it represents around what a large sized toilet paper investment would be.

I see the value in one of those. I struggle to see equivalent value in the other.

Thus, the TP wins that financial/value struggle every time.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By Selena on 10/1/2006 11:53 AM
Check this out, featuring Patrick:

http://www.antisocialmedia.net/http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=3761&st=20
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By Jackolantern on 10/1/2006 12:20 PM
Bob,

What do you think OSTK should be trading at?

Would like to hear your thoughs and reasoning.

Jack
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By jack's full of it on 10/1/2006 12:30 PM
Bobo, looks like you got a new master baiter in jackolantern.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By davidn on 10/1/2006 12:34 PM
Take the supply, including long sellers and people who are able to borrow legitimately and short sell. The short selling is limited to the number of longs who keep their stock in a margin account in exchange for the benefit of being able to receive margin credit.

Then take the demand, which includes people who like the stock who want to buy and shorts that are being bought in because they can't / don't want to meet collateral requirements or because the person they borrowed off of wants their shares back.

The place where the supply and demand are in homeostasis is the exact place where OSTK should be trading at.

Anything else is a criminal manipulation and fraud perpetrated on the buyers who don't receive shares in exchange for their money.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By davidn on 10/1/2006 12:47 PM
It would be nice if we could get collaboration software installed on this site or one linked from here, then let the users here edit it to build out our group knowledge base about how this scam works and how the one degree of separation criminals' names pop up again and again.

The administrators could block the blockheads from editing based on IP.

This site, faulkingtruth and investigatethesec.com have enough traffic that we should be building our own group knowledge base. It blows me away to see the same one degree'ers behind mainstream media also behind wiki.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By davidn on 10/1/2006 12:56 PM
Free WIKI software

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By bobo on 10/1/2006 1:10 PM
Jackolantern: I couldn't have said it better than Davidn did. So I won't try. You can do the angels on the head of a pin dance over what a stock "should" trade for based upon any number of criteria, however that is a fool's errand until manipulation is rung out of the system. Fact is that it doesn't matter what I feel is the right number, it matters how many millions of more shares have been created via a badly broken system, than exist. That will dictate how badly out of whack supply is with demand, and give us an indication of how off the price is from where the stock "should" trade.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By davidn on 10/1/2006 1:17 PM
Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English)....

Why would Lil GW, who shows himself to be an expert in fails to deliver, pretend that no such problem exists?

Here is an article from 2003 where Lil GW, explains in a step by step manner how stock lending by a BCCI ringleader and Iran Contra arms dealer caused investors to lose hundreds of millions in the week of Sept. 11th and for 200 employees at a clearing house to lose their jobs.

The reason, the people the clearing house borrowed stock off of refused to return their cash collateral when the share price collapsed.

SIPC identified that the problem was lack of regulations, loopholes and the whole idea of "mark to market" which allowed a firm with $5 million in assets to receive $200 million cash in collateral.

According to the SIPC, it was a huge example of stock lending gone massively wrong, yet the bad guys kept their money, no regulator was fired, investors lost $100's of millions and Michael Miliken's protege, Valerie Redfoot gets the leadership award http://www.pmc.edu/ILSR/award/04_redhorse.html

And Lil GW, who has written about the last several massive clearing system failures claims there is no problem as he shamelessly pumps the book he wrote after losing his job at Business Week.

“Alice: It would be so nice if something made sense for a change.”
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By davidn on 10/1/2006 1:22 PM
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_19/b3832095_mz020.htm
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By puts on 10/1/2006 1:42 PM
(REPOST) PUTS FORECAST OCT. SURPRISE?
Sunday, October 01, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com

INITIAL POST 09.30.06

A faithful reader and commentator, "A. Magnus" writes has written the following email, posted to FMNN General Feedback:

"Do you like October suprises? Is there a big bang coming to hit the markets? If you believe that those in the know use insider information before major events then you might be interested on the HUGE number of October 6th put options for the big indexes. Check out the concentrated puts on the Diamonds DOW Trust (DIA):

https://fastquote.fidelity.com/webxpress/ia_optionchain_frameset.phtml?priced=Y&SID_VALUE_ID=DIA

Ditto for the S&P Depository Receipts (SPY):

https://fastquote.fidelity.com/webxpress/ia_optionchain_frameset.phtml?priced=Y&SID_VALUE_ID=SPY

And the NASDAQ (QQQQ):
https://fastquote.fidelity.com/webxpress/ia_optionchain_frameset.phtml?priced=Y&SID_VALUE_ID=QQQQ

Even the Market Vectors Gold Miners has significant puts for October 6th:

https://fastquote.fidelity.com/webxpress/ia_optionchain_frameset.phtml?priced=Y&SID_VALUE_ID=GDX

Make no mistake - something wicked this way comes, and the smart money has already taken preventative steps."

Staff Selections - Links
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By InTheKnow on 10/1/2006 2:36 PM
SETTLE THE TRADES, once and for all!
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By mhelburn on 10/1/2006 4:30 PM
So you believe that no one sold those puts? Since the indices are hitting highes, does it not make sense to buy insurance to hold the gains in case the peaks don't hold? Are you going to bet with the inurance buyers or the insurance sellers? the only way for the sellers to make money is for the buyers to be wrong...
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By msucog on 10/1/2006 4:46 PM
http://www.aetherometry.com/antiwikipedia/awp_index.html
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By rtway1 on 10/1/2006 7:10 PM
My guess would be that if GW were kidnapped (who would want him) or if he were to be out of touch with the public for a good length of time, say 2 months, half of the tripe poster crap would stop and most of the common sense would drift back into the message boards. In my opinion he is the cancer of this system and will pay a heavy price. And he is so ugly and dumb. His days are numbered and he knows it. Nose candy won't solve everything.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By from the 1800's on 10/1/2006 7:46 PM
"The scheme backfired when Vanderbilt bought shares, keeping the price from falling. Eventually he owned more shares than existed, leaving those who were short at his mercy. They needed to buy shares to cover their short positions, and he was the only possible seller."

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/business/15615955.htm

From http://www.investigatethesec.com
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By liars on 10/1/2006 8:12 PM
If a lie is repeated often enough, the public begins to believe it as the truth.

The DTCC and SEC often repeat the mantra that share counterfeiting isn't illegal. They have no grounds to make that claim as the DTCC is a privately owned, for profit business and the SEC operates under elected officials.

Neither has the power to create or interpret law.

I can see all kinds of criminal frauds, such as mail fraud when the brokerage sends a confirmation slip on a trade that hasn't settled.

The fraud they perpetrate where they imply your claim to a share is backed by a real share is not much different then the fraud someone commits when they write a bum check to Walmart, knowing it isn't backed by real cash.

I applaud Global Links for suing the DTCC for slander. They need to start being called on some of the BS they put to the wire services.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By bobo on 10/1/2006 8:20 PM
I think the next step is to sue the SEC for failing to uphold the 1933 and 1934 Acts, and for promulgating rules that contradict those Acts.

As we have discussed numerous times, the SEC CANNOT issue exemptions that are not in the public interest and are not designed to protect investors.

You sue, for, say, the grandfather exemption, and force them to explain how grandfathering delivery failures, where investor money was taken and brokers refuse to deliver what was paid for, protects investors. I understand completely how in protects Wall Street, but I can't wait to see the argument from the Commission on that one.

Ditto for options market maker exemptions. I understand how the exemption benefits those speculating in options, and those who make markets in options, but explain to me how allowing them to create liquidity at equity investor expense protects equity investors? It doesn't.

I think a series of good suits could shut their happy asses down. They have been allowed to ride roughshod over America for decades, and our elected officials have let them. Take it to the courts, and let them explain it to a judge.

The great experiment has failed. And we are left with having to use the courts to get basic protections from predators. It's a shame, but it is also true.

And we will win.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By Patrick Henry on 10/1/2006 9:29 PM
This is a nation of laws, not administrations, beauracracies, institutions, or money.

When those laws are violated, not matter by how powerful/rich those violators are, they will be brought to justice under those laws.

It's only a matter of time and the little revolutions that our government and its agencies undergo.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By SteveM on 10/2/2006 3:19 AM
Patrick Henry, Bob O'Brien... exceptional Americans. Justice will prevail.
Re: Wikipedia Chronicles - Part Deux By Wikipedia Entries Deleted on 10/2/2006 4:10 AM
Yesterday three letters where posted to the Naked Short Selling site at Wiipedia. The comment letters to the SEC were:

1. US Chamber of Commerce
2. Robert Shapiro
2. Govenour of Utah

TODAY THE LETTERS ARE GONE

We urge all at this site to set up an account at Wikipedia. All you need is a Screename and a Password. An email address is not required.

Post all the SEC letters under Recent Developments and othe sections. Make a file and repost after the scumbags delete them. This shall keep those scumbags busy forever. Put up whatever informationyou want about naked shorting on the Wikipedia board. We have more posters than they have.

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