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Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic

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Posted by:   bobo 7/10/2006 4:35 PM

It used to be that you had to see one of two things happen to see a wildly high increase in profits:

Volume of whatever you were doing had to increase substantially (usually in line with whatever the profit increase was).

OR;

Costs had to decrease substantially.

Apparently, the NYSE specialist firms have figured out a way around this hackneyed principle of economics.

As reported in Reuters, costs remained constant, volume increased 20%, but profits tripled.

You read that right.

Now, how can that be? How did they make so GD much money on a comparatively trivial increase in trading volume?

Vague allusions are made to automation - you know, the automation the specialists fought tooth and nail? But how much could automation have decreased costs? 70%? Please. The firms were totally anti-automation. Specialists are basically an anachronism, a throwback to an inefficient pre-automation age where you needed middlemen and auctioneers to match buyers and sellers. They are unnecessary in automated markets - and yet, here's partial automation, and their profits nearly TRIPLE!!!! How's that for a miracle? How did they do it?

Nobody is talking. I wouldn't. That's like discovering that your dog poops gold nuggets. You don't want to broadcast it. Just sell the gold, and feed him well.

Perhaps the NFI shareholder suit, which names Banc of America as one of the alleged perpetrators, will shed some light on the startling performance. That suit accuses the specialist firm of participating in an illegal trading scheme, along with the prime brokers. Basically charges that they were price fixing, and assisting in bear raids - selling into weakness to tunnel the price, day after day - good old fashioned stock manipulation.

I hear that can pay well.

The other suits that target stock manipulation go after the hedge fund industry, which has also experienced unparalleled success and growth in a lackluster market.

So how are all these Wall Street fellows breaking all records for profits, when most of the trading is hedge funds (meaning they are paying more of the fees) and the market is flat?

Great question.

Any theories? I have a few.

Fortunately, the SEC hasn't seen any evidence of wrongdoing, and believes, apparently, that all is well.

And if it isn't, according to Senate Judiciary Committee testimony, they will gladly kill any investigation into your activities - if you have the right bank balance and pedigree.

That's nice to know. If I ever come back as a billionaire crook, I will want the assurance of the best cops my money can buy - who will eagerly investigate anyone I don't like, while running interference for whatever mischief I am up to.

Man, Milken and Boesky could have used that. Maybe if Milken hadn't upset the apple cart, and eaten into so much of Wall Street's investment banking business, he could have still been operating undisturbed today. Who knows.

But you have to hand it to the Specialists. Triple profits on mild growth. That is unprecedented.

Again, you have to wonder how they manage to pull it off.

Copyright ©2006 Bob O'Brien
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Comments (23)
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits go through the roof By n-tres-ted on 7/10/2006 7:56 PM
And look at this, Bobo. The biggest firm actually had a loss, while the rest of them tripled their profits:

"LaBranche, the largest market maker, last week said it would report a surprise $23 million second-quarter loss, hurt by lower revenue from principal trading."
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By idontgetit on 7/11/2006 5:06 AM
BOB,

Brokerages have fixed costs. volume up 20% would esiily triple profits.

I think your wrong on this one.

Thought you where a investor who knew what he was talking about?

Maybe you should speak to your broker and he could explain it to you.
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By hhawes on 7/11/2006 5:13 AM
Idontgetit,

The real question is .....how does an increase of 20% in trading volume produce an increase of 59% in revenues? That's the point of Bobo's blog. Could it be counterfeiting shares? Nah, no way. Why don't you ask your broker to explain it to us....
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Little Bo peep on 7/11/2006 5:21 AM
my my.....so many questions. Not many secrets left.

Who are these dudes?
Kernel Network Transit Telecom s.r.o.
The Czech Republic
freeopencall.com

Wanadoo-JordanGlobal One Communications Jordan
Global One - Jordan
go.com.jo
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Little Bo peep on 7/11/2006 6:35 AM
.....last question for the day....

Bunny do you or anyone know if Mr Mack and the
house committee on financial service members and
the senate banking committee members have been
or are on any companies board of directors?
Or is that a secret?
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By ckza on 7/11/2006 7:15 AM
Unless the member firms are in the business of deriving other forms of revenues as a result of "other" trading activities, it's an "impossible" feat to create top line revenues nearly 3 times higher than the 20 percent trading volumes which are the sources for creating the revenues in the first place.

I have not read any financial statements by this newly created public entity, but on the surface it would seem that, "other" forms of revenue besides "trading volumes" and maintaining a "liquid" market for all participants, would be a "conflict of interest."

Certainly, Bob is no fool to point this out. imo
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By bobo on 7/11/2006 7:30 AM
Idontgetit: Hhawes is correct - that's my point. Seems logically impossible. But why don't you explain to us all how that would work. trading increases 20%, top line revenue increases almost 60%.

Take you rime.
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Little Bo peep on 7/11/2006 7:39 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/accused-bankers-bound-for-texas-jail/2006/07/11/1152383741854.html
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By mhatmccane on 7/11/2006 8:42 AM
Well, that certainly solves the mystery of why Cox took the "integrity" out of the SEC Charter description. Certainly looks like some pigs are more equal than other pigs
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By old duffer on 7/11/2006 8:44 AM
it's over!

get your money out while you still have some left. even las vegas knows you have to let the rube's win once in a while, not wall streel so it seems!
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Niel Storts on 7/11/2006 9:59 AM
It is all so very obvious. Just like it is obvious that the miscreants still believe that there will not be any accounting. Everyone seeing the advertisment on cnbc for the "pipeline" scam ought to be able to figure it out. Ought to watch it. Quite the deal. Runs along the lines of "so you want to make a major move in the market. but market impact is unacceptable. Well, by jingo, just let our software handle that pesky delemia for you. We will buy in, or sell out, your position without impacting the market. 99% of the trades will settle within the range. (you can set the range by the way) Most will settle arround the midpoint." What has this got to do with anything??????? Glad you asked. The only way they can advertise delivering such results is if the software is designed to "control" the action. Anyone care to watch the trading activity on any day will see the price swinging within a certain "range" in which it seems that almost 99% of the trades settle within that "range" and most trades settle close to the midpoint. The range by the way is always set on a percentage basis of the price per share, ie: 3% is comon with nfi. Others it will be 2% or 1% or 4% you get the picture. Anyway to get to the point THERE IS ONLY 1 WAY THIS CAN HAPPEN. If the trading is being manipulated by some of the big players. It is, of course, manipulation but well that's ok when the big players are involved. Can't let a pesky thing like the law stand in the way of making money. Those clowns have been using program trading run by this, or similiar, software for years. Of course just because there is a tool that controls the trading activity......... well it would never ever be used to manipulate the market for more than a few little buy and sell orders........... Elsewise that commercial would never appear. Noone would ever think the whole damned thing was being gamed. People might lose faith in the fairness of the financial markets if that was the case. That would cause the sec to step in assuring everyone that everything was on the up and up. They do have the mandate of "maintaining the publics trust in the market" after all. Have a nice day.
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Gandy on 7/11/2006 10:08 AM
Is David Weiss at Goldman Sachs related to Gary Weiss?

Thanks

Gandy

Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Niel Storts on 7/11/2006 10:10 AM
As a follow up. That is the weapon. The "means" so to speak. The "opportunity" is every minute, of every day, the market is trading. The "motive" is......... well guess. Make of it what you will.
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By rtway1 on 7/11/2006 10:50 AM
The SEC meeting tommorrow will be web cast off their (SEC) web site at 10:00 am EST. The woman I spoke with send there would be a vote tommorrow but would not elaborate on what.
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By bobo on 7/11/2006 11:06 AM
Gandy: That is a great question, and I haven't found an answer. Anyone know, or can you do some digging and find out?

rtway: Expect a lot of vague hmmming and hawing, and at the end of it, the conclusion that SHO isn't perfect, but is working.

Also expect the grandfathering provision to be upheld as good for the markets - nobody has had the balls to test it legally, so why shouldn't they rub our noses in it?
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Gandy on 7/11/2006 11:34 AM
David Weiss could be GW's cousin. Check it out on google.
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Gandy on 7/11/2006 11:41 AM
UPDATE: Lawyers: Ex-Specialists' Actions Were Mistakes


(Updates with additional arguments from Stern's lawyer in ninth through 12th paragraphs, additional arguments from prosecutors in 16th and 17th paragraphs and expected schedule in 18th paragraph.)
By Chad Bray Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Lawyers for two former specialists at Van der Moolen Specialists USA LLC NV urged jurors not to convict their clients of securities fraud charges on Monday, saying the alleged improper trades were the result of mistakes made during a period of change and often chaotic trading at the New York Stock Exchange.
In his closing argument, David Meister, a lawyer for ex-Van der Moolen specialist Michael Stern, said the disputed trades were a "tiny fraction" of the thousands of trades made daily by Stern and were simply mistakes in properly sequencing orders, not the result of any criminal intent on Stern's part.
Stern and former Van der Moolen specialist Michael Hayward have been accused of trading ahead of public orders for Van der Moolen's account and improperly positioning themselves between public buy and sell orders at the Big Board thousands of times between 1999 and 2003.
"In school, if you get 99% right, you get an A-plus," Meister said. "When you get 99% in the U.S. Attorney's office, you get indicted."
Hayward, 53 years old, and Stern, 55, each have been charged with conspiracy to commit securities fraud and three counts of securities fraud. They have denied wrongdoing.
Specialists match buyers and sellers at the NYSE, a unit of the publicly traded NYSE Group Inc. (NYX), and provide liquidity by buying or selling shares when there is an imbalance on the floor.
Hayward, who at one time was the specialist for Time Warner Inc. (TWX), and Stern, the former specialist for Pfizer Inc. (PFE) and Duke Energy Corp. (DUK), are the first of a group of former floor specialists accused of engaging in fraudulent and improper trading at the NYSE to go to trial. The men face a maximum of 20 years in prison on the securities-fraud charges.
Two other former Van der Moolen specialists - Joseph Bongiorno and Patrick McGagh - already pleaded guilty in the matter. Bongiorno and McGagh served with Hayward and Stern on Van der Moolen's management committee.
On Monday, Meister argued that specialists, such as Stern, saw orders come in, made a decision to trade for the specialist's account and communicated to their trading assistant to execute an order all within a second's time. He said it was inconceivable that "inside of that one second somebody could form criminal intent."
Meister also argued that Stern, who received a small percentage of Van der Moolen's annual profits, would have only stood to personally make $20 to $30 a day more as a result of trading ahead of public orders and $8 a day as a result of stepping between public buy and sell orders, or interpositioning.
As a result, it wouldn't have made much sense for Stern, who earned about $13 million between 1999 and 2004, to make those trades just to line his pockets, Meister said.
"If Mr. Stern was really committing crimes to make himself rich, you would expect evidence showing he committed crimes to make himself rich," Meister said.
Earlier Monday, Jonathan Bach, a lawyer for Hayward, concluded his closing arguments in the case. Like Meister, Hayward attributed the alleged improper trades to mistakes in a period when trading volumes rose dramatically at the NYSE and the Big Board was converting from trading shares in fractions of a dollar to decimals.
Bach also pointed to a decline in the number of disputed trades, or exceptions, when Hayward moved from Time-Warner to less active stocks as an example of how the trades were mere mistakes rather than calculated wrongdoing.
"When you're in a bigger, more challenging stock, more errors occur," Bach said. "There's nothing surprising about that."
Meanwhile, Assistant U.S. Attorney Lauren Goldberg in her closing argument on Monday tried to defuse the defense's assertion that the trades were simply mistakes. As she did during her opening statement, Goldberg said Hayward and Stern violated the exchange's "golden rule" by cutting in line ahead of public orders and trading ahead for Van der Moolen's account.
"They are asking you to believe that thousands of times they mistakenly violated the rule that is the bedrock principle of being a specialist," Goldberg said.
Closing arguments are expected to conclude Tuesday morning. U.S. District Judge Sidney Stein, who is presiding, told the jury late Monday that he expects deliberations will begin before lunchtime on Tuesday.
Van der Moolen Specialists USA is a unit of Van der Moolen Holding NV (VDM).
-By Chad Bray, Dow Jones Newswires; 212-227-2017; chad.bray@dowjones.com

Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By bobo on 7/11/2006 11:58 AM
Can't you just hear the song? Brittny singing, "Ooops, I did it again" to the thousands of trades, all mistakes, all that made money for those making the mistakes? Sort of reminiscent of the late trading and frontrunning by the mutual funds - usually only a nickel here or a nickel there, but over time many billions.

You gotta love these galoots. Just making profitable mistakes.

How come my broker never makes me any profitable mistakes?
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By ckza on 7/11/2006 12:02 PM
Slightly off topic. Last night while partially falling asleep, I came across a CSPAN tape of the same day's forum by Insana addressing the Sarbanes Oxley Act. Appearing was Steven Cutler, a former SEC enforcement agency leader, as well as some university law professors, and one of the SEC's chief accountant's, whose subject matter seemed focused upon his enactment of rule 404 something, if I recall correctly.

Of course, this is the SEC looking at the corporate governance part of the American capital markets by the companies themselves, including; ethics, honor and proper accounting/reporting.

Anyway, I was wondering, since I was mostly asleep, did I miss anything important or was there anything beneficial that was derived from that meeting by all of those great minds in one room?
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By Little Bo peep on 7/11/2006 12:32 PM
One thing for certain the "talking heads" have no clue what tomorrow will bring.
The "EGO" still trying not to flinch and act Brave. Thinking awe, they can't catch us we are to powerful. Nobody could EVER figure out our bed buddies. They could not possibly have another BOMB like Mr Aguirre. Right? We covered all the tracks and if they catch us in something, we can just say it was an honest mistake because we are so, so busy.
I do not think that all souls have been bought.
Tomorrow we get to see the next move. Lights, Camera, Action.
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By rtway1 on 7/11/2006 12:44 PM
I wouldn,t admit it if I was related to GW. I,d just say my aunt led a fast life and had fun.
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By InTheKnow on 7/11/2006 5:19 PM
Me thinks tomorrow will be a bright new day for us!
Re: Specialists' Q1 Profits Go Ballistic By old duffer on 7/11/2006 6:43 PM
InTheKnow,

Whadja hear? They going to revoke the SEC for good, once and for all and arrest every paid off pol on the hill?

Cause that's about the only thing left that could make a bright new day in our markets.

Stick the SEC pigs with a fork, cause they been done for 72 years near as I can figure!

May God move some inside to honesty before it is too late for their mortal souls!

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