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The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!!

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Posted by:   bobo 4/2/2006 11:00 PM

Well, the second, and now third-string NY financial press are working overtime to try to stoke the embers of outrage over the SEC’s investigation into stock manipulation and front-running of research reports by a group of hedge funds. Particularly disturbing to these pundits is the regulator's daring to include the research group accused of taking pay from those funds (and generating  reports that were basically dictated to them, without disclosing the fact) – and using a network of journalists and media personalities to broadcast the universally negative information.

This makes around six articles since the market closed Friday, by all our good friends, and some new-and-yet-familiar faces. We already touched on Roddy and Nocera’s pieces. So let’s look at Chris Byron’s. Carol Remond’s, and Dan Dorfman’s (yes, THAT Dan Dorfman).

First we have Byron’s, which is typical of the refrain being sung. It essentially takes the position that ALL journalists have to worry about an out-of-control SEC, which is persecuting the good folks in the press, and their innocent-as-the-day-is-long hedge fund buddies.

The title of his piece says it all: "SUBPOENA-HAPPY REGULATOR SHOULD BE REINED IN."

So now conducting an investigation into stock manipulation becomes regulators gone wild, spraying each other with subpoenas while dancing in thongs.

You can read his piece here. Some tidbits:

“But if one of your business cards winds up in the possession of a reporter on the prowl for news, well, here is fair warning: The way things are going at the Securities and Exchange Commission, boring will not be the word you'll likely be choosing to describe what could happen next. Try horrid or ghastly and you'll be a lot closer.

In a worst-case scenario, you could wind up staring down the business end of an SEC subpoena from regulators who want to find out every detail of every conversation or contact you ever had with said reporter over the years - maybe even for your entire life.

Sound preposterous? Well that is almost exactly what the SEC is doing already in its much-chronicled and controversial struggle to build a conspiracy case showing collusion on Wall Street between short sellers and the media.”

This speaks for itself. The SEC is targeting 9 or 10 journalists widely believed, for years, by many market observers and shareholder advocates, to be shills for the hedge funds. Chris makes it sound like the SEC has gone jackboot on us and is unilaterally trampling the 1st Amendment, endangering all journalists far and wide.

This is pure horseshit, as it was when the ludicrous spin was first floated by a frantic segment of the NY press corps after the subpoenas were issued. But their approach hasn’t changed, even when CNBC’s own poll showed that a whopping 89% of respondents supported the SEC’s actions. That is just ignored, as a very small cluster of the NY press simply repeats ad nauseum the same tired and hackneyed refrain.

More Byron:

“In the immediate matter at hand, the SEC may in deed have a case of some sort or other against short sellers. Yet whether it does or not, the media has no dog in this fight because none of the reporters named in the various SEC subpoenas has ever been sued for publishing any falsehoods or libels involving the companies they've allegedly targeted.

Even so, the SEC has dragged the reporters in anyway, beginning with subpoenas to three well-known financial journalists in early February, seeking any and all e-mail exchanges and other contacts they may have had during the previous four years with short-selling hedge fund Rocker Partners and Gradient Analytics, an Arizona-based research firm.

This led to a predictable chorus of protests from the media that the SEC was engaged in an unconstitutional fishing expedition, and the commission thereupon appeared to back off.”

Chris. We both know damned well what they are investigating – front-running research reports, timing articles to cause maximum damage, and publishing false and misleading information. Fact is that virtually no journalist ever gets sued for libel, because rule number one of being an adult in the markets is never sue guys who buy ink by the barrel. It is proof of nothing that they have never been sued, any more than before the Drexel fiasco it was proof of Milken’s innocence that no junk bond king had ever been indicted on 96 counts. It is a stupid line of reasoning, and you are not a stupid man – so I have to wonder when smart guys start saying stupid things.

And including Cramer as a “journalist” is simply insulting to the genre. I jumping around on camera like a gibbon on meth touting your hedge fund buddies’ tips is journalism, it is time to hang up the notebook and get an honest job like drug running or pimping.

“Since none of the journalists has been sued by Byrne or anyone else for publishing something defamatory about Overstock, it is hard to think of any possible reason - except perhaps bureaucratic zealotry and spite – that could explain why the SEC would want the notes and e-mail of the reporters in the first place, let alone continue to pursue them in the face of Cox's assertion that the entire matter was being put on hold.

Cox's lack of leadership has been simply deplorable, and the time is fast approaching when the damage will be irreversible. In his announcement putting the SEC's first round of subpoenas on hold, Cox did his best to buddy up to the press, claiming the media and the SEC were historic partners in rooting out malfeasance on Wall Street.

BUT the press is more than just a partner to the SEC; it is the com mission's seeing eye dog. Nearly every major SEC case of the last quarter-century originated not with the commission, but with some reporter covering Wall Street who uncovered the illegal behavior and wrote about it first.”

Uh, not really Chris, but I don’t have the time nor the space to show you where you are wrong. Suffice it to say that the SEC is in the business of investigating crime in the stock market, and it has good reason to believe that your colleagues are involved – so stop the histrionics and hyperbole and start doing your job – the job of a reporter is not to complain incessantly about how mean the regulators are for investigating your colleagues, but rather to investigate whether this is the next Watergate. You aren’t doing your job, but instead doing the equivalent of whining that Nixon is innocent, does important good work, and shouldn’t be subjected to this invasive persecution. Knock it off. It is frankly embarrassing from a journalist whose work I once admired.

“Were it not for an early 2001 article by Fortune reporter Bethany McLean, the SEC would still be staring in glassy-eyed approval at the accounting world den of thieves known as Enron Corp. Yet instead of carrying her through the canyons of Wall Street on a sedan chair with vine leaves through her hair, she is one of the nine reporters whose contacts with Gradient Analytics the commission has subpoenaed Gradient to cough up toinvestigators.

What blockhead at the SEC allowed this to happen? Why didn't Cox stop it? Why hasn't he stopped any of this? It's a disgrace. For shame, Chris Cox, for shame.”

Uh, Chris, maybe he hasn’t stopped it because he saw the evidence and there is good reason to believe all 9, or at least some of them, could well be guilty as sin of some very bad things. Ever stop to consider that? No? Why not? Why should a journalist automatically be given blanket immunity from wrongdoing? Why should a chimp on TV be given that immunity? Why would you take the position that the SEC has no grounds to investigate what is clearly a case they have SOMETHING big to root out, given their bucking the NY press and continuing the investigation?

Folks, this is typical – these articles basically take the position that “This is an outrage” even as they try to sway the course of an investigation by exerting pressure from bully pulpits. It is deplorable that this is what the NY press has come to. Not surprising, but deplorable.

89% of Americans don’t agree with your self-serving rhetoric, Chris. CNBC’s own poll, and it was overwhelming, and compelling. Why don’t you do some investigative reporting into Dr. Byrne’s allegations that Cramer and Becky Quick not only knew about Gradient a long time ago, but were emailing them requesting hatchet jobs for use on the shows? Is that beneath you? Or is it because there are some things that you just don’t want to know?

Here’s an idea: Let’s let the SEC get the info they want, and if the journalists are guilty, put them under the jail and let the rats eat their eyes. If not, let the entire experience fade into the background of non-events on Wall Street, and their good names will have been vindicated, and truth will prevail. But let’s not try the case in the NY Post – you have no frigging idea what the SEC knows, but you can bet it isn’t “just” a fishing expedition, and perhaps that is why there is the full court press to proclaim everyone’s innocence early and often, declare that any investigation is an outrage (echoing Jesse and Herb – also subpoena recipients), and demonize everyone on the opposite side of the table from your buddies: CEOs, the SEC, Cox, members of the press who think you are full of it.

Moving on to Carol, she came out with a piece that was actually as close to balanced as anything I’ve ever seen her write. It still tried to spray venom, but did so in such a pallid and controlled manner that the piece actually seemed boring and scripted – a “just the facts” article that really contained no news, but was rather just a rehashing of all the data to date. I’m not going to waste any space on it – you can read the piece, and just imagine what I would say. Any thinking adult can put two and two together here, so I won’t insult your intelligence and waste the bandwidth by critiquing it. Suffice it to say that she “breaks” the startling news that O’Quinn’s team of attorneys are the ones that are taking on Wall Street in the majority of cases. Wow. Gasp. And that some of the cases were dismissed and are being appealed. Yawn. Why is this news? Uh, because 9 months ago O’Quinn’s group sued Rocker partners on behalf of OSTK? They aren’t involved with the Biovail suit, but Carol tries, without much enthusiasm, to drum up some interest in the idea that Wall Street is the victim here. Like I said, yawn.

This is the first article we’ve seen out of her since the SEC served her with a subpoena, so that sort of makes it newsworthy. Marginally.

Those poor tobacco companies were also victims, until 60 broke the whistleblower and O’Quinn won the billion dollar settlements. Oh, that. And he was routinely defeated until the day he won, and that day changed everything. So Carol, honey? Back under the rock.

Perhaps most significantly, Dan Dorfman chimes in as a reporter for the NY Sun (WTF? Who?) and crafts a relatively clumsy defense of all those poor billionaire hedge funds that are being persecuted by the bad old SEC.

In it, we see all the usual chestnuts:

“In the past few weeks, the SEC has launched three stock trading investigations that until now have gone unreported. Also, the commission has increased its scrutiny of one of the city's leading short sellers, Rocker Partners, which has already been sued for alleged stock manipulation.

Summing up the thinking of some hedge fund managers, one manager says there seems to be a mindset at the SEC that anyone who shorts a stock (betting its price will fall) is un-American or crooked. He says he has been hearing ever more complaints from fellow managers about an increase in calls from the SEC that center chiefly on short trades. He points out that such trades are perfectly legal.”

Some hedge fund managers? Like maybe Rocker, SAC, Jeff Mathews and Einhorn, you mean? I’ll bet they’d like it to seem like the SEC is unreasonably investigating.

Guys. They are investigating stock manipulation. Not short selling. If you manipulate stocks down so your short makes money, that is still stock manipulation. Driving a car is legal. Driving a car into your ex-wife as she picks up the paper in the morning isn’t (in most states).

“One brokerage compliance official with strong SEC ties told me the commission is particularly interested in the knack of some hedge funds - notably on stocks they're short - in influencing analysts to downgrade their investment ratings and in getting financial reporters to do negative stories. He said there is some SEC concern that these incidents are happening in excess - and that the same cast of characters often is involved.

The commission, I'm told, is honing in on the activities of Rocker Partners. It has recently made some calls to the brokerage community specifically seeking information about the firm. Its founder, David Rocker, part of whose success is believed by some hedge fund managers to be his repeated ability to get his short sales publicized in the press, didn't respond to calls seeking comment.”

I’ll bet he didn’t. What is noteworthy here is that the press is finally using the R word and breaking the story I broke months ago – that Rocker is being seriously investigated for stock manipulation and insider trading, among other things. And is one of a network being so investigated.

“An SEC spokesman, John Nester, also declined comment when asked about charges from the hedge fund community that the commission is on a vendetta against such funds.”

Because it is a really stupid question. The SEC doesn’t do vendettas. Although that is precisely the Milken defense. And it didn’t impress anyone then, either.

The SEC is investigating a collusive group of hedge funds who allegedly abuse the system to drive down and then maintain at depressed levels stocks they have targeted, and who likely are involved in illegal naked short selling, doctoring research reports, manipulating opinion through the media, abusive trading, and a litany of other possible offenses.

This isn’t a Vendetta. This is the SEC doing its job. Wall Street has just gotten so used to hedge funds running rampant and doing whatever they like, that it has forgotten that there is a sheriff in town – albeit often one that arrives after the fact. The industry has been fined for every imaginable larceny over the last 10 years, criminality at unimagined levels was uncovered on the Street beginning in the 80’s and progressing to date, and the former chairman of the NYSE is taking the 5th to avoid incriminating himself in hearings about Wall Street crookery. Does anyone see a pattern here? And yet the NY press are unanimously acting as though these hedge funds are Mother Theresa, and that it is an outrage to presume that some may be up to no good. What twaddle.

6 articles this weekend, all spinning the same yarn – hedge funds are victims of the SEC and those bad ole attorneys, journalists are victims of the SEC and those bad old attorneys (and the CEOs who pay them), and the whole thing is just an outrage.

Is it just me, or does it seem like the call went out in NY to get every hack that had ever owed a favor to write something eerily similar?

Is anyone fooled by all this?

CNBC’s poll says 89% aren’t.

No wonder everyone on Wall Street is so nervous.

 

 

Copyright ©2006 Bob O'Brien
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Comments (28)
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By forget the newspaper Bums on 4/3/2006 8:54 AM
SETTLE THE TRADES, and watch them all run away
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By STOCK SETTLEMENT on 4/3/2006 8:55 AM
STOCK SETTLEMENT, That ends the game
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By TED Pert on 4/4/2006 4:48 AM
I am a small investor and i wonder what happened to this technology that supposedly is taking care of everything?
The dtcc should be scrapped and a new entity put in its place that will really do the job.
The Sec has these hacks and dont know which end is up anyway they should all be accountable to the publick since that is what they are supposed to be doing.
If these guys can not do the job just fire everone of them and have the hedge funds account for every trade they make!!!!!!!!!!!!!I hope it is all cleaned up!!!
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By rtway1 on 4/5/2006 3:06 PM
I,m waiting to see if they can get Callandra next. These people have the table manners of a rat and they want to be accepted as civil and trustworthy. I do hope the S.E.C. reads these replies so they know how the real public feel as we have no way to display a referendum or a honest poll.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By bobo on 4/3/2006 9:01 AM
Indeed it does. Notice how reluctant Wall Street is to settle the trades? More on that in my next few blogs. This was some housekeeping.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By thank you on 4/3/2006 9:05 AM
REG SHO, time to teach the Hedge Funds and DTC and PRESS
STOCK SETTLEMENT is T plus 3, not T plus whatever, HERB and his boys wil get theirs the SEC will roast them in due time, Your silence on them drives them nuts since dont know what you have on them,, DONT show your CARDS
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By n-tres-ted on 4/3/2006 9:13 AM
Thanks for this reprise, Bobo. But the "spraying each other with subpoenas, dancing in thongs... Driving over your ex-wife as she picks up the paper... illegal in most states." Man, you've got to stop! You're breaking me up with those lines!

As to the columnist's suggestion that the SEC is seeing a stock price go down and then googling to see what mean journalist has written something bad about the company so a subpoena can be issued to bash the poor innocent journalist - what a crock. The SEC almost certainly has hard evidence from its investigation of Rocker, Gradient, et al., tying these writers to the manipulation conspiracy, so is asking for additional production of records.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By Jake on 4/3/2006 9:48 AM
Jake seems to like to put forth catchy one-liners accusing me of slandering people. Given that doesn't actually have any positive purpose that I can see, I'm removing his post. Seems like I am touching nerves, though. Bobo.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By n-tres-ted on 4/3/2006 9:30 AM
Jake, why don't you tell the rest of us what your stake is in this issue. Why do you think the poor hedge funds and independent researchers and journalists being "done wrong?"
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By pinkice on 4/3/2006 9:32 AM
Byron has absolutely no credability IMHO. The schtick is up for the NY press IMHO. Who cares what they have to say, the more they howl, the more they are ignored by Mainstreet America. The retail investor has been fleeced too long and no amount of press, least of all by the cadre in NY are going to hold sway anymore. The retail investor is tired of these paratsites, i.e. hedgies/broker-dealers, living off the retailer's money.

Again the DTCC should open up the books for audit into the OSTK shares regarding NSS vs. legal shorting vs. outstanding shares. If there are no problems, they should welcome an audit to come in and clear up any misperceptions that the public currently believes there is. A company other then the DTCC needs to settle the trades, separate from the broker/dealers.

Mainstreet America wants Wall Street brought to justice. All IMHO.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By STOCK SETTLEMENT on 4/3/2006 9:40 AM
THE DTC is helping hedge funds rob you... Settle the trades and the shorts will run away
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By mhelburn on 4/3/2006 9:46 AM
Dorfman's article was the most unbiased. He got the story right. He may have quoted biased people, but he said who they were. Byron.. is acting like he has something to hide or he is on somebody's payroll. The hysteria has overcome his logic. He was on CNBC when they ganged up on Patrick. I wasn't impressed then and I'm not impressed with his latest. The suggestion that the SEC sees a stock fall and then reads the article.. That is great.. because the didn't used to read the articles. They just need to read some of Gradient and Herb's work. It doesn't take an investor to understand the intent of the hatchetjobs they put out.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By Rvac106 on 4/3/2006 9:46 AM
We need to get everything together in one place. I’ll start.

1. In a Pennsylvania case, Troy Publishing Co. v. Norton and Wolfe, 04-979, it has been found that a reporter who writes defaming information, even if it is a quote and has an identified source and is handled simply as revelation, can be found liable if the reporter had reasonable grounds to know that such information was false regardless of the source given.

(Hopefully, this will give journalists (other than the 9 subpoenaed) cause for pause.)

2. In the scenario first put forth at the OSTK conference call, wherein Bob O’Brien led Patrick Byrne through the steps involved in manipulation, he was able to predict with uncanny accuracy the next few pieces of the ‘puzzle,’ including which reporters would be calling, and the instigation of a publicized ‘probe’ into OSTK’s business practices.

(Since there have been accounts of ties between well known hedge fund managers and, among others, employees of the DOJ, and the SEC, the prediction was left at ‘publicized.’)

3. Rocker Partners have been shown to be major shorters of, at one point, 25% of the US traded issues on the SEC’s REG SHO list.

(That’s a very high percentage, I don’t care who you’re talking to…)

4. For Chris Byron, as a news reporter, if the SEC has proof that someone (let’s say another reporter) is a criminal, isn’t it your JOB to report on that story. That is a story, isn’t it? That someone the public is supposed to trust to give out news that is newsworthy, so that the public then has the information it needs to make informed decisions, is criminally publishing unsubstantiated, and sometimes obviously and provably incorrect stories, to aid a former classmate, or deskmate, or the uncle of the brother of a former girlfriend in their attempt to criminally manipulate a stock?

(There is definitely a story there, and it’s a doozie!)

5. Everybody has been leaving out the Milberg-Weiss connection. You know, those nice young attorneys who have instigated an incredibly high percentage of the recent Class Action Law Suits against corporations, who are now under investigation themselves of criminally manipulating their own law suits.

(In at least one instance, the Law suit instituted by M-W was put before the court in an astonishingly short amount of time. I’m reminded of the time Herb Greenberg released his own article on a Gradient report the same day the report was released, in spite of the fact that Gradient’s PR person claimed that there was usually a 2-4 week lag time between report date and a reporter’s access to same.)

There may be reason here for the SEC to expand its list of reporters under investigation. I would begin looking at all of the reporters NOT on the list who have chimed in with inane and unfounded accusations of vendettas, 1st amendment rights violations, and other chimp like defenses of situations about which they know little or nothing.

There is a groundswell in America. People are very wary and weary of those who do not stand up to do the right thing. Elected officials, reporters, political appointees, etc., are all coming under increased scrutiny. The bar was raised by the passengers of Flight 93, over Pennsylvania, who didn’t sit by and allow a few miscreants to wreak havoc on an unsuspecting public. Anyone who doesn’t stand up to do the right thing had better watch out.

RVAC
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By From hallucinations department on 4/3/2006 10:01 AM
" From hallucinations department: The latest in Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne's strange fantasy world is his attempt to smear private research firms for sharing their reports with journalists. In this case, he is trying to make an issue out of the online access I once had (but barely used) to reports from Gradient Analytics, which is being sued by Overstock. (Truth be told: As is, I have too many passwords and user names to remember, and tapping in to these sites is a hassle. Besides, I get enough ideas on my own.)
So let me make this clear: There is no law against reporters having access to private research reports, if the research firms make them available. Business reporters regularly see research reports of all types from all kinds of sources. I don't care if the report had originally been requested by one of the firm's clients -- and they didn't tell me. All I care about is the quality of information.
Lucky for my readers: the few Gradient reports I've quoted in my column, especially the one on Overstock, were top notch."

http://www.marketwatch.com
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By bobo on 4/3/2006 10:15 AM
Hallucinations: We've already seen that. If you had bothered to read the prior blog on Greenberg, you would see where his statement that the research was "top notch" is shown to be specious - it wasn't it was beneath sub-standard, thus Herb is a lying poop eating guilty dog. Please don't clutter this thread with asked and answered stuff.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By dave on 4/3/2006 11:04 AM
How do you define a "journalist"?

Is a CNBC infomercial writer a journalist?

What about a basher or pumper on Raging Bull?

Are we journalists? I find more nuggets of real info on this site than I ever find in any Dow Jones publication.

If the SEC decides to treat journalists with "kid gloves", than all any miscreant has to do is starting writing!

Can you imagine if that applied to other criminals? Sorry officer, you can't investigate me for murder as I am a reporter and the confession I emailed my buddy is priviledged information.

What a load of crap.

At least 89% of the public can see through it.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By troydian on 4/3/2006 11:00 AM
IMO all of the reporters and editors of these shill rags are culapble in that they are not even slightly covering THE REAL STORY! GUILTY BY OMISSION !! here is where the real SHAME lies.. we all Know the real story,, counterfeiting of securitys, plain as day not hard to see..When their time comes, and it will ,they can proffes their innocence, like every other con..To deaf ears I might add.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By smuopr8r on 4/3/2006 11:01 AM
Nope, not fooled, only foolish. My vote in teh next election goes to whomever has the best plan to settle the trades.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By bbhindyou on 4/3/2006 11:02 AM
You go bobo .I feel a lifting of the fog over what has been happening for twenty years at the D.T.C.C. is upon us.Haw much damage to the market it will cause when all is revealed scares me.I hope this all comes down without damaging the small investor but I'm afraid the little guys always pay while the rich criminals walk away.But you cant stop. Things sometimes need to get worse before they can get better.I'm afraid the medicine will be terrible but the disease MUST be cured. The D.T.C.C. is a cancer on the market and must go.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By troydian on 4/3/2006 11:26 AM
To the editors and ( cough ,cough) journailst, that read this blog, and I Know you do .. when will you realize you are killing this nation with your lies?? sure you can say everyone else did it too.. but you had a chance to Right a horrible wrong, and you stuck by your paycheck. The term whore fits nice here!
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By long and wrong on 4/3/2006 11:52 AM
Stock settlement is the key,, reporters mean zip
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By Sledge on 4/3/2006 4:06 PM
Jake the reporter: Hello, Uncle Jim?
Uncle Jim: HI jake!
Jake: Uncle Jim, I'm doing a hatchet job article on ABCD. You might want to get short
Uncle JIm: Thanks Jake. Are you sure it will tank?
Jake: Oh yes Uncle Bob. Keep this to yourself, I recieved the information from a hedge fund buddy that paid for a hatchet job report from an independant analyst firm. Get this Uncle Bob, they have six other hatchet job reporters slamming the stock tomorrow and one is going on CNBC as icing on the cake. CNBC is on our side.
Uncle Jim: But Jake, ABCD doesn't really look thet bad?
Jake: Uncle Jim, just short it...now.
Uncle Jim: Ok Jake. Whatever you say. By the way Jake, how is that private school situation coming for your daughter?
Jake: Ahhh, we think we have the money to pay her way in.
Uncle Jim: I'll throw a little extra on that short sale for you Jake. Don't worry about the extra cash you need for her school.
Jake: Thanks Uncle Jim. I'll be in touch.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By Niel STorts on 4/3/2006 4:05 PM
I don't know "Bob". Seems that Mr. Dorfman was close to simply stating the facts. He doesn't seem to understand much about what we are concerned with, but he did seem to act in a much more "professional" manner than any other (gasp, choke, retch) journalist. It might be a good idea to provide him with an education. We never know where our allies will come from.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By bobo on 4/3/2006 4:08 PM
Niels: You might be right. I'm just sort of cynical at present. I have a very hard time believing anything that comes out of the NY press these days. So when I start reading about what un-named hedge funds say they feel miight be happening, I groan audibly.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By bovine_poor on 4/3/2006 5:47 PM
Where you say "If you manipulate stocks down so your short makes money, that is still stock manipulation.", which is the second time I've seen this in one of your missives and which was one of the counters on 60 minutes, you are very mistaken. An accurate statement would be to say "If you manipulate stocks down so your short makes money, or try to do so but without success, that is still stock manipulation." Still better, and even more accurate, would be to say "If you attempt to manipulate stocks either up or down with or without success, that is stock manipulation." Isn't it the attempt that counts, not the result? Try to rob a bank and come away with nothing is just as much a crime as taking away a bag full of cash. The phrasing of the statement as included in your (excellent) post is much akin to looking at the company being NSS to death and segregating those that 'deserve it' from those that don't. No company deserves to be NSS to death; no matter how corrupt or crooked they are. And, methinks, that an attempt to manipulate that fails is just as illegal as one that succeeds. Hmmmm?
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By Admiral Ackbar on 4/3/2006 8:40 PM
Quick ?
Who published remonds article. i can't seem to find it.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By bobo on 4/3/2006 8:43 PM
Admiral: AP.
Re: The Bunny Wonders Aloud At the Latest from The NY Post, Carol...and Dan Dorfman!!! By Y on 4/3/2006 11:29 PM
Cramer is on Stop Trading and twice says to the CNBC lacky, "You know I'm a team player, don't you."

I can't help thinking now which team is that?

The Swashbucklers?

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