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On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb

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Posted by:   bobo 3/30/2006 4:00 AM

 

Here’s a fun experiment. Go to Overstock.com  and in the investors section you will see the Gradient/Rocker lawsuit posted in it’s entirety. From the early January filings (around page 50) you will see the affidavit from Overstock’s attorney, attesting to the date Gradient issued one of the reports (giving Overstock an “F” grade) ; Gradient also produced MSN's Stock Scouter program, that rates stocks for the public on the MSN web site.  The Stock Scounter was issuing an “8” rating (out of a 1-10 scale, 10 being best) - while at the same time doing a rating for private clients and issuing an “F” grade. We also saw examples of this with NFI, where Stock Scouter was rating NFI highly (7 or 8) and Gradient was issuing “F” grades.

Now, is it just me that thinks that their “defense” – that it is mostly automated – is hogwash? How does an algorithm get things like the aforementioned NFI research report  I link in a prior blog so very badly wrong, and then refuse to correct itself? How exactly does that work?

Could it be that this is yet another part of their story that is collapsing under the weight of obvious and easily verifiable facts?

Odd, that.

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Ha ha ha ha ha. How’s this? “I’ll get that over to you ASAP, fellas.” Click. “Who was that, Bob?” “Oh, some idiot at one of the regulators that can’t understand why we never give them anything they ask for.”

“They still ask for stuff? What morons!”

“Yeah. Hey, oops, I just spilled coffee all over that FTD data…AGAIN….wooops!”

“Ohhh. And I see it fell into the shredder. Doh! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…”

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For those that missed it, Dr, Byrne of OSTK sent Eisinger a great letter the other day in response to his “we are all above the law cause we’re journalists, g#dd#mnit” opinion column.

Dear Jesse,

Have any of your editors noticed that, by your logic, law enforcement must ignore all allegations that journalists have done improper things with others: reporters may not be asked about what they did with others because of the 1st Amendment, and those others must not be asked what they did with reporters because that would deter people from doing things with reporters. The substance of "what was done" becomes impossible to explore as a kind of tautological truth, like the Divine Right of Kings.

Not bad, I'll give you that.

Patrick

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And finally, for all the cartoon lovers, my satirical commentary on Herb’s continued shaky, palid and gaunt expression of late….Is it just me, or is he starting to look a little like the Edvard Munch painting The Scream?

scream_2.jpg

I mean, if that was the CNBC studio in the background....

herbA.GIF

herbB.GIF

herbC.GIF

herbD.GIF

herbE.GIF

herbF.GIF

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Comments (19)
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By old duffer on 3/30/2006 1:38 PM
I watched Herbie squaking on squakbox this morning.

Anyone else notice that even his old buddies ain't buyin it no more?

Herb babe, don't let em get you anywhere near the bus stop baby.
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By tommytoyz on 3/30/2006 1:46 PM
Love the cartoons, made me laugh........
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By geezier on 3/30/2006 1:48 PM
Hey old duffer
Maybe that loud thump thump I heard yesterday was Crammer helping Gradient across the street. Somebody's going to make a ton of money cleaning bus tires.
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By Herb Greenberg on 3/30/2006 1:53 PM
I provide invaluable research to my hedge fund clients! I'm an innocent man easter bunny!
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By InTheKnow on 3/30/2006 2:04 PM
I'm sick and tired of that scumbag whimp whining about his fuqing 1st amendment rights.

What about the investors right to their stock certificates!
What about the investors right to their stock dividends!
What about the investors right to vote every goddam share they own!

STFU you piece of bullcrap!

Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By Wicked World on 3/30/2006 2:10 PM
Now THAT'S what I call art!

And the Munch painting is pretty good too.
Re: On Gradient's, Reply to Shocking Dorfman By bburrell on 3/30/2006 2:21 PM
To Shocking Dorfman:

I had contact with Solvex in 1995. I brought them a prospective US Investment Banker, Jefferies, and a prospective co-Manager in the UK, Deutsche Morgan Grenfell.

I knew their senior outside director who was a extraordinary ex Shell IP Counsel , Director and manager, and worked with one of their consultants on investment banking issues. Before they could get their IPO done, they were literally crushed, leading to an eventual bankruptcy, and loss of control of their plant in Alberta.

Dorfman was rumored to have taken payoffs which were reportedly traced directly to him by investigators for the Company. It effectively ended his career, and I haven't heard anything about him since.
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By hoagx on 3/30/2006 2:38 PM
TALKING TO INVESTORS ABOUT MARKET MANIPULATION, IS LIKE TALKING TO A BOX OF FRIGING ROCKS! I JUST KEEP POSTING!
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By browntrout on 3/30/2006 2:38 PM
For Herb and Jesse- I found somethings to help now and when thay get to their new home. http://www.stupid.com/stat/BUGD.html http://www.stupid.com/stat/NIBN.html http://www.stupid.com/stat/CHKE.html http://www.stupid.com/stat/PPRA.html
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By rtway1 on 3/30/2006 2:47 PM
I would really like to know what became of Dorfman just to let the public know where he is at so that they can personally thank him for all his good works and past deeds. That would be good for Herbie after this is over also. I also can not stand to see this piece of crap use up good air and time to say nothing other than he is picked on. I give a rats ass how he feels or his carnival sidekick. The sooner this all over, the sooner we can flush the toilet.
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By blackbart on 3/30/2006 2:51 PM
rtway1- I hear Dorf is running mail-order bride services in Thailand.
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By J on 3/30/2006 3:05 PM

bobo... seriously, you're the unsung Dave Chappelle of the financial world. Laugh out loud funny, no hyperbole.

Anyway.. there's a fantastic exhibit on Munch ongoing at the MOMA NYC right now... see Herb in person!

http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2006/Munch.html

Finally... How great is it that we have a person with a Doctorate in Philosophy on our side... I love that these pissant, cliche, hack journalists have to contend with the likes of Dr. Byrne, who's a mind is a diamond.

.. another uptick day in the market reform movements graph.
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By embraceyourinnerhillbilly on 3/30/2006 3:23 PM
Bobo,

Want a couple of Herb pix? His mouth is wide open just like the Munch painting.
Actually, he looks more like a model for blow-up dolls.
I'd like to think he's warming up for his new job as an inmate bitch.
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By anon on 3/30/2006 3:35 PM
One version of the Scream was stolen twice, once at gunpoint and has never been recovered.

"Munch wrote, concerning the image:

I was walking along a path with two friends – the sun was setting – suddenly the sky turned blood red – I paused, feeling exhausted, and leaned on the fence – there was blood and tongues of fire above the blue-black fjord and the city – my friends walked on, and I stood there trembling with anxiety – and I sensed an infinite scream passing through nature. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scream
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By browntrout on 3/30/2006 5:23 PM
Bobo-How long to you let the trolls trash your blog?
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By InTheKnow on 3/31/2006 2:07 PM
For years these scumbags have been using class-action suits against companies and finally the companies are striking back against these crooks and they have the audacity to whine and cry foul.

SETTLE THE TRADES OR SETTLE IN JAIL!
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By www.investletter.com on 3/31/2006 2:07 PM
While we are on the topic of fun bits of stray data I though I would toss this one in. A study, titled "Vote Trading and Information Aggregation," by Canadian and US university researchers has discovered that due to the stock borrow program voting shares is not what investors always think, one share, one vote. It looks like the naked shorts and other manipulative variants are gaining recognition in related areas. For any interested, here is a link: http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B3E0BF08B%2DF814%2D4A15%2DAAF5%2D6558FB7286E8%7D&siteid=mktw&dist=
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By golden1101 on 3/31/2006 2:08 PM
Dude . . . You are f$#%*$ hilarious. I can't believe you took it there.
Re: On Gradient's supposedly automated, impartial research; Byrne; and Herb By bobo on 3/31/2006 2:12 PM
hillbilly: I'd love some pix. Just send them to ncans.mgr@gmail.com

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