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Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498...

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Posted by:   bobo 3/29/2006 4:00 AM

Jesse Eisinger, who was a big player in the “Who’s Bob O’Brien?” investigation last year that resulted in him being ejected from the grounds of a guard-gated retirement community after being cited for trespassing, and who plays poker with hedge funds, and who refused to answer direct questions from me as to how he had confidential banking and cell phone records from NCANS, and who further is part of the SEC’s probe into a group of journalists who are alarmingly tightly-connected to hedge funds involved in civil suits alleging stock-manipulation-like business interference and front-running of doctored research reports, writes another piece where he is just verklempt over the SEC coming after those it obviously has really good reason to want to chitty-chat with.

Here are some of his more choice snippets, along with some Bunny-comments:

”A few weeks ago, SEC Chairman Christopher Cox slapped the hand of his staff for taking the "extraordinary" step of subpoenaing journalists in a market-manipulation probe without notifying commissioners. Now, as part of that probe, the agency is demanding that a small stock-research firm, Gradient Analytics, turn over all its communications with nine reporters, including me, as well as CNBC.”

Jesse? Did you miss the interview where Cox said he fully supported his staff’s decision? Yes? No? Decided to ignore it? Why? He said that he felt that the book should be thrown at journalists who are crooks, and further indicated that the Commission acted within its rights by issuing the subpoenas, and further indicated that there was NO WAY he would have been notified, nor any policy where he should have been notified. So let’s start off by telling the truth, huh?

”Securities lawyers say it's perfectly reasonable to ask market sources for their communications with journalists if they suspect people are using reporters to spread misinformation.

While subpoenaing journalists directly was a "big mistake," says Stanford law professor Joseph Grundfest, "it shouldn't be surprising and it shouldn't disappoint anybody" that the agency is going after market participants' communications with journalists. "It would be a very strange world if people could be held liable for every lie they told except for the biggest lies they told to reporters," he adds.”

Exactly. Thank God someone with a brain weighs in. Oh, but wait, they aren’t a member of the NY press or married to a hedge fund choagie. Apparently the view from NY is different than those fools’ naïve take over at Stanford’s law school. Not surprising, really, given that the Stanford law professor isn’t the target of an investigation. Think that might color things a bit?

More from Jesse:


”But that's a view from the airy realm of the abstract (Read common sense view from the rest of the country - Bobo). Context is what matters here. What's really happening is that the SEC is displaying alarming credulity (alarming? To whom? I’m not alarmed. Jesse sounds like he sure is – Bobo) about allegations leveled by a chief executive who has been the target of critical Wall Street analysis and articles. In doing so, the agency has provided a clear roadmap for CEOs of that ilk: Whine loudly enough that there is a conspiracy afoot to harm your company and the agency can be made to do your bidding.”

Translation: I’m a victim, and the SEC is being used by the all-powerful CEOs that have been insulting the SEC for over a year. Huh. Couldn’t be that the Commission has analyzed a mountain of data and come to the conclusion that there is much merit to doing a full investigation, and are sitting on the largest stock-scamming ring since Milken and Boesky last went to jail?

 Nah.

They are nothing but dim puppets of those all-powerful CEOs, not the billionaire hedge fund managers living in NY and the surrounding area who making their livings by trading off of short positions that increase in value only if the public thinks there are big problems with the companies. See, the guy in Utah that has been spitting in their face is the problem, not the hedge funds that have been front-running the research reports it turns out they paid for, and then coordinated with the reporters to get the word out. And certainly not the reporters – brought to you by one of the reporters they are looking at in a harsh light, incidentally. Did I already mention that?


”The nine reporters have one thing in common: They all have written critically about Overstock.com or been named by CEO Patrick Byrne, the Dan Brown of the business world, as card-carrying followers of a "Sith Lord" or "Master Mind" out to get him and his company. Mr. Byrne has repeatedly charged that certain financial reporters are "crooked." He has said some reporters are "condoms" to be used and discarded by nefarious hedge-fund market manipulators. (So the other thing that they could all have in common is that they are all crooks. Got it. Maybe that is why the SEC wants to have a talky talk?)

Mr. Byrne laid out the whole scheme on a flow chart -- a maze of crisscrossing lines and boxes that makes Mr. Brown's "Da Vinci Code" look like "Where's Waldo?" Distributed in conjunction with an Aug. 12, 2005, conference call the CEO held, the chart includes six of the nine journalists named in the subpoena. The other three wrote about his company subsequently.”

Correct. Byrne did the legwork and uncovered a large, well-funded, organized ring of stock manipulators exactly like those involved in the Elgindy case, but larger and more networked.

So far so good.

Because they are Wall Street-based and super rich, predictably they hold way more sway over the Street than some guy in San Diego did. Check. Understood. And Byrne says that some are super-felons from the 80’s, who will be put under the jail once their role is understood, leading many to speculate that Milken or some of the other Predator’s Ball miscreants are in the mix. Check. Who knows? We shall find out in due time, I’m sure. Nobody could possibly know that at this point but the miscreants.

And Byrne even laid it out in a schematic, so that the layman could understand what he was describing – a layer of hedge funds acting as the capos and foot soldiers, directed by some uber-bosses, and leveraging some crooked reporters and bent research firms to financially benefit from victim companies’ stock prices declining. Check. So far no confusion. Seems basic put that way.

Apparently as Jesse features in that matrix as one of the crooked reporters, he understandably is using a full page of the Wall Street Journal to argue that he is innocent and that the whole thing is an outrage, a waste of the SEC’s time, an invasion, and a threat to God, Country, the American way..

Sure it is, Jesse. Say, did you ever explain where the NCANS bank records came from? The cell records? Who gave you the hot idea to try to track the Easter Bunny down? How that bounced from you to Carol to Roddy? Is there any way any of that could have been legally obtained? No? Is your boss wondering about how large a liability they have from that episode? Maybe?

But I digress.

”The SEC's roster is puzzling. A person familiar with the SEC's probe says the journalists' names were compiled from multiple sources, but it looks more like a download of Mr. Byrne's enemies list. For one, it includes Seth Jayson, a writer for Motley Fool, a Web site that has carried numerous positive articles about Overstock. Mr. Jayson has been an exception there, writing a handful of critical pieces that incited the wrath of Mr. Byrne.”

Huh. So Seth is in the mix? Super. The little whiner has been hitting a host of Rocker and such shorts with astounding regularity – maybe the arrogance of the NY financial press is such that they think nobody will notice when a guy like Herb writes 32 negative articles on NFI in one year, most of them front-run, or has whole columns that are nothing but a favored hedge fund’s attack list? Dunno. But it looks like the Seth’s of the world will have their opportunity to prove their innocence once and for all. How refreshing. One would imagine that brothers and sisters alike would be dancing in the streets. Apparently not.

Another reporter on the SEC list, Cheryl Strauss Einhorn, hasn't even written an article for Barron's (like The Wall Street Journal, a Dow Jones & Co. publication) since late 2002. Her only apparent connection to this affair is that she was mentioned by Mr. Byrne in that infamous conference call last summer and included on his Sith Lord flow chart.


The only rationale he alluded to in the call was that she had the audacity to marry a hedge-fund manager. True, she once wrote a piece on Biovail for Barron's. But that was back in 1996 and it was positive, concluding that the company's stock might be "a bitter pill for short-sellers to swallow." (The SEC list also includes two other Dow Jones journalists, MarketWatch's Herb Greenberg and Dow Jones Newswires' Carol Remond.)”

Well, then, Cheryl should have nothing to hide, right? I mean, what are the odds that she was in communication with Gradient and Rocker and SAC acting as a conduit for toads like Bill Alpert? I find it laughable, and say let the discovery begin. There will be no there there, and then we can all have a Mojito.

We all know that the idea of a hedge fund manager using his wife or child as a foil for convenient access or sympathy is beyond belief, right? So what is the big objection?

”Journalists aren't above securities laws. If the agency has serious evidence of wrongdoing by reporters, it can and should investigate them.”

We agree on that. Maybe that is why you are getting the knock at the door, Jesse.

"It's appropriate for market manipulators to think twice before trying to use journalists to mislead investors," said John Nester, an SEC spokesman, speaking generally. "We don't believe the policy chills law abiders from communicating with the press."

That's naive. Even though the SEC is on solid legal ground now, it's stubbornly compounding its initial mistake by persisting in this line of inquiry. That should trouble any investor who expects the SEC to be spending taxpayer money wisely and not hindering the free flow of information.”

Yeah. I’ll just bet, Jesse.

Their “initial mistake” – huh? So you have predetermined that none of the reporters in this little clique, who have been noted as being hedge fund toadies for years, and who have been on deck to lick their masters’ hands whenever required, is a “mistake.”

How do you know? Weren’t you also saying just recently that the affiants were lying, and were framing Gradient? Or was that one of the other SEC-probed NY press guys? I can’t keep them all straight.

Jesse. Do you have access to all the info the SEC does? Do you know what tapes, or emails, they already have? What ATM records? What offshore trading accounts have been uncovered by persistent PIs and then passed to the Commission? What testimony from disgruntled or former employees or co-workers has made its way to them? No?

Maybe they want to understand where you got the only-obtainable-illegally bank records, sweetie. That ever enter your noggin? No? Why not?

How about they see a plethora of 17(b) violations from the researcher end, and a story that is changing more often than the night shift at McDonalds, and a bunch of “journalists” that are spending more time hyperventilating on TV with guilty dog looks than doing their jobs?

”The key issue, says University of Illinois law professor Larry Ribstein, is whether the SEC has enough solid information to think that the communications with journalists are relevant or is "acting on rumors and going on fishing expedition." The latter "deters future communication of the sort that is very important [for] market efficiency."

What the SEC is doing is less akin to a fishing expedition than a snipe hunt. As it stumbles through this investigation, what is the likely effect?”

Uh, again, you prejudge the data the SEC already has and try to paint it as a bumbling incompetence.

Why is that? What evidence is there that is the case? None? Or maybe that is a happy, high hope from someone being targeted, and who wants to paint themselves as a victim, or express faux concern over how “our” valuable tax dollars are spent? Puhleese. The public already voted on CNBC, and 89% said they approved of the SEC’s actions. So save us the one-sided spin that conflicts with reality. The public wants this gang of miscreants, if miscreants they are, taken down. Period. And they don’t care if the miscreants are journalists, or billionaires, or priests. They want them brought to justice. So far the only ones whining are the journalists and the billionaires. Isn’t that a surprise?

”Let's hope it will be modest. Perhaps sources who want to communicate with journalists will just use their phones, rather than email.”

Because the SEC is far too stupid to get the phone records, huh? You know, those stumbling simpletons?

And then Jesse delivers the final, self-serving, hand-wringing appeal to the 1st Amendment we have come to expect in these infomercials-for-the-subpoenaed-or-being investigated; almost like clockwork from these jokers:

“But that's unlikely. The message is that the SEC will give credence to any company that is a target of skeptical research if it complains. What will honest analysts and investors think as they witness this? They'll be less inclined to talk to journalists and to each other -- just the sort of thing the SEC's Mr. Cox publicly fretted about after learning his agency had subpoenaed reporters directly. Analysts also will be less likely to take on tough targets. Why analyze a prickly company if the end result is an SEC subpoena, legal costs and bad publicity?”

Jesse? Babe? The SEC isn’t subpoenaing all analysts, or even most analysts, or even a bunch of analysts. It isn’t happening. They are subpoenaing a small circle of reporters who may have become a bit too enamored of the glow from being buddies with the billionaires, and a research firm which now admits that they were acting on the behalf of hedge funds when they wrote their reports, precisely as the affiants said – and which was vehemently denied up until yesterday. Ooops. That would be the 17(b) shoe dropping. One violation per report, I believe. That’s a lot of reports. Lot of Federal Securities Violations.

So the chill you speculate about isn’t happening. It is a fiction, a conceit, an invention that seems like a desperate attempt to try to create some downside to getting to the bottom of this.

Every guilty perp I’ve ever seen on COPS, insists that they were innocent, and that it is all a big mistake, a waste of time. So that isn’t exactly new, or believable. Everyone is innocent, it is always persecution or a miscarriage of justice, and if caught red-handed, it was an “error in judgment.” Wanna bet we hear that before too much longer?

If it is all a big mistake, let’s clear it all up, now. No stonewalling, no whining on CNBC every 10 minutes – give the SEC the info, and let them do their job. The only ones with anything to lose are the guilty, and if you are one of them, I say, bury you under the jail. If you are innocent, you should welcome putting this behind you. So stop sniffling like you fell off your tricycle and buck up – what are you so afraid of?

Or do you know what they will find when the data hits the Commission?

That’s really the question with all these self-serving articles and protestations of innocence, isn’t it? How much is COPS “Ah din’t do nothin’” perp swagger, and how much is legitimate complaint?


You probably already know my sentiment.


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Comments (7)
Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By bobo on 3/29/2006 2:18 PM

Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By troydian on 3/29/2006

u da man EB!!!
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By CMElec on 3/29/2006

The dogs are running for the hills.... chased by a bunny. It's about time. If retail investors and the general public smell something fishy, I think you'll find a jury that gets it too. Good job EB, you were right all along.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By Concerned Citizen on 3/29/2006

It seems I remeber Herb crying about someone messing with his phone service and calling the FBI about it a year ago or so. It was the feature of one of his Street gems. I think Jesse and the others need to assume that their phone and email record from at least that time till now are in the hands of the SEC. Might be a good time to consider being the first to cut a deal, if deals are not already being cut.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By SqueezeTrigger on 3/29/2006

The Wall Street Journal has repeatedly been provided the following data on OSTK:

http://www.buyins.com/ostk.gif
http://www.buyins.com/ostkshortdata.gif

They have reviewed the data, inquired about the data, asked detailed questions, and yet....they bury the data. They hide from the data. They have put the kibosh on the 100% factual, exchange provided short sale time and sales data that proves the extent that short selling takes place in ALL US STOCKS. When you overlay this data with paid-for negative research reports and properly placed negative news articles by journalists, you can see the crushing blow shorts, research firms and reporters can have as they triangulate their influence and power to drive stock prices down. And Jesse Eisinger has the audacity to issue a premediated comment to Maria Bartiromo on CNBC over a month ago that "Short sellers do not cause stock prices to drop." It is the most self incriminating comment I have seen to date on this issue. To make a statement such as this, when James Cramer screams nearly every week to stay out of the way of short sellers because they will crush you in a New York minute, means that there is a hidden agenda that Jesse and several other reporters have to use the media (print and television) to whitewash this story. As the Easter Bunny so delicately puts it, "Honey, this story is not going away that easy" :)
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By x. trapnell on 3/29/2006

I feel a smidgeon of sympathy for Roddy. He mentions Jesse but gets nary a word in return, while even Sethy is given a bouquet. But then again, secret alliances might also prompt their own silences. The Jesse->Carol->Roddy connection during the great bobo hunt is suggestive. . .
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By robelita on 3/29/2006

I can see the veins in Jesse's furoughed brow now twitching while his lips quiver "mama".
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By rashomon on 3/29/2006

i'm in total agreement with your critique here. let the investigation run its course, if they did nothing illegal or stupid they will have no issues. the free flow of information is not being punished here ... they are punishing themselves with their own paranoia (or perhaps their own guilt). SEC has the right to check out market moving publications ... without question. So if you have nothing to hide, have no fear. And continue on with your information flow ... the outcome should be that the SEC tells you what is ok about this practice and what is not. All this complaining makes them look guilty
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By bobo on 3/29/2006

Did anyone see the Gasparino interview with the Gradient mouthpiece? Classic. Basically said "you lied to me." OR rather, said "that's not what you told me yesterday."

These idiots are coming apart now. Their mouthpiece is sub par, the story is a laughable contrivance, there are 17(b) violations everywhere, and the smokescreen of slanted journalism is doing no good.

Expect more large shoes to drop, sooner rather than later.
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WIll the SEC really get anything useful from the reporters By SteveieG on 3/29/2006

You know these crooked lapdogs have deleted every email, emptied their recycle bins, and reformatted their hard drives. Twice. What are the chances of the SEC actually getting anything useful out of the subpoenas?
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By hwh on 3/29/2006

This is a much needed investigation, it is certainly granting a leave of absence to the DTCC SBP. More funding for the SEC & DOJ is needed to timely prosecute this war...hwh
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By rashomon on 3/29/2006

Eisinger makes me irate! You pussy if what you are doing is valid and legal continue doing it ... nobody is trampling your precious flow of information! What's making you spout this whiny crap is either your own guilty conscience or your paranoia that we live in a corrupt world where the govt can be coopted by personal vendattas. You are either a paranoid hypocritical pussy or a guilty prevariacating loser ....
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By x. trapnell on 3/29/2006

SteveieG,

If they do try to destroy electronic information, they're running a grave risk of prison time. Given the backups made at every organization, the backups kept at ISPs, and the backups kept at various servers along the internet it's very difficult to ensure that every last copy an an incriminating email has been deleted.

Moreover, chances are that if things get serious the Feds will turn a lower-ranking employee or journalist who will then provide information concerning communication and if any of it turns out to have been deleted there will be serious repercussions. So any lawyer will advise clients never to destroy data, no matter how tempting so doing might be. That's why, imo, Rocker et al. are fighting discovery so strongly.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By mhatmccane on 3/29/2006

First TSCM writes positive stuff about Overstock and now Fortune jumps on the bandwagon and talks about naked shorts. Seems like the worm has turned. So, who gets to cut a deal?

Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By craig cunningham on 3/29/2006

There are always records to be had. If an email was sent, there is a paper trail a mile wide left on each and every server inbetween the two computers.

Phone call/cell phone records are easy to get.

As the heat starts building, someone is going to make the self-maximizing choice and talk. It seems that it is all being placed in Gradient's lap right now, but as soon as they figure out that THEY are the fall guys, life might start getting interesting.

Heck, info on the CIA's MK Ultra program came out. All those documents were shredded. Info on the FBI's COINTELPRO came out, and that was classified.

Rest assured the chorus of outrage is building, and soon we may have some new choir members.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By an observer on 3/29/2006

The Gradient mouthpiece might have accidently boxed them again. She said that it was practice and OK to give non paying press the reports 2-4 weeks after release to paying clients. Should be easy to check based on when Herb and others released their negative articles.

On another subject, what makes these people think the SEC does not already have copies of emails and the like - if they now destroy them or deny their existence. they are caught in a lie that likely comes with jail time all on its own.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By The Coverup is Always More Damnable Than the Crime on 3/29/2006

Ask Martha and Tricky Dick
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By Cutty on 3/29/2006

So those poachers whant to have rabbit for dinner, but, surprise: The animal emerges from his hole carrying a twelve gauge. And now they cry bloddy murder and it's not fair and so on.

Put some salt in the shells bunny, it's better.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By craig cunningham on 3/29/2006

http://www.virtualhedgefund.com/article_stockloan.htm

Check this out folks. Perhaps this explains that 1.5M fail to deliver position...
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By Kevin on 3/29/2006
EB -

Your big day is coming! I think Dr. Byrne should plan a big news release for Easter Sunday. Perhaps even an indictment from Mr. Spitzer of one or more of the miscreants. Preferably Herbie. He looks good in handcuffs. Too bad he missed his chance in HBO's, OZ, but I'm sure he'll create his own new character, lipstick and all.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By GrooveMaster on 3/29/2006

The internet is awesome! No longer do you have to wait for the book to come out. Now, you can read along as it is happening. LOL
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By anon on 3/29/2006

"a small stock-research firm, Gradient Analytics"

How big was the atom bomb?

OT-nfi By teacheric on 3/29/2006

sorry to be ot, but i just thought i would make an observation. It seems like every time i notice NFI have a good day, I see GOOG have one too. Seems to me that the hedgies who are heavily shorted in nfi just might be using goog collateral to support their losing position. If they can't keep nfi down, they have to keep making goog go up.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By InTheKnow on 3/29/2006

We haven't heard one iota from Remond. I wonder who is hearing those iotas?
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By ginger on 3/29/2006

Stevie, you ask " ... What are the chances of the SEC actually getting anything useful out of the subpoenas? "

Unless all the scamsters deleted every email, emptied their recycle bins, and reformatted their hard drives, twice ... the deleted emails etc will show up on the recipent's end. There has to be a PERFECT match, no loose ends.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By nabrum on 3/29/2006

"Perhaps even an indictment from Mr. Spitzer of one or more of the miscreants"

Spitzer won't do anything. He's buddies with the miscreants. But it would be a wild dream come true to see him appear, again, on Cramer's show, only to put the cuffs on him.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By bobo on 3/29/2006

Here's a letter from Patrick, sent to Jesse last night:

Dear Jesse,

Have any of your editors noticed that, by your logic, law enforcement must ignore all allegations that journalists have done improper things with others: reporters may not be asked about what they did with others because of the 1st Amendment, and those others must not be asked what they did with reporters because that would deter people from doing things with reporters. The substance of "what was done" becomes impossible to explore as a kind of tautological truth, like the Divine Right of Kings.

Not bad, I'll give you that.

Patrick
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By rashomon on 3/29/2006

ah tautological circle. guess atty-client priveledge is tautological too and that cant be broken unless there is proof of intentional criminal activity on the part of the atty. so either the Feds respect the tautology and have evidence of blatant crime or journalist-source info is not protected by the law like atty-client priveledge. probably both are true
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By dawgman.. on 3/29/2006

I love to hear the rats squeal when the light is shined on them!!
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By dave on 3/29/2006

Fails are the other source of income for a stock-loan department. Fails occur when borrowers fail to return the stock on time. The revenue is produced by the discontinued payment of rebate interest on a failed stock return. These are not a major concern for small retail borrowers due to the fact they will either be bought-in and or not paid a rebate in the first place. It may seem insignificant but the interest on 100 million dollars is $11.111.11 Per/day at 4% the current fed funds rate. It is not uncommon for repo desks to lend out billions of dollars on a daily basis. The fail is stock-loan departments fattest source of revenue putting a premium on a smooth and efficient wire room to minimize in house fails.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By mhelburn on 3/29/2006

If a journalist were innocent and the SEC said "jump", the innocent guy would say, "How high?" There is no misunderstanding about what the subpoenas were after. The noise that has been coming out of the subpoenaed journalists is laughable. The smartest one of the lot is Carol Remond who has kept her mouth shut. Her silence may mean a lot.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By bobo on 3/29/2006

Rash. I have never heard anything that pointed to journalistic privilege being equivalent to atty-client privilege.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By Y on 3/29/2006

Let's call them what they are. Alleged journalists.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498...
By rashomon on 3/29/2006

thats my point. some seem to claim the 1st amendment gives them a tautological seal like atty-client. don't think it really holds up to legal scrutiny
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By re Jessie Eisinger is again Outraged I say-part1,4 on 3/29/2006

Redmon may be the one to roll.
To smart to go to jail for her rich friends.
Smart enough to not try to find the EASTER BUNNY.
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Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By r3fman on 3/29/2006

Look at this from Bankstocks.com



GRADIENT GROUSING: Jesse Eisinger, distressed the S.E.C. has subpoenaed Gradient Research's correspondence with him and seven other journalists, complains ($) the agency is "compounding its initial mistake [of subpoenaing the reporters directly] by persisting in this line of inquiry. That should trouble any investor who expects the SEC to be spending taxpayer money wisely and not hindering the free flow of information." Top five reasons Eisinger needs to take a chill pill:

1. As an investor, I've kind of had it up to here with the "free flow of information." In my experience, freely flowing info is often either a) wrong, b) incomplete, or c) irrelevant. I could stand less, thanks very much. Which is why I spend most of my working day digging up company information that doesn't flow freely.

2. Remember what started all this. The S.E.C. is looking into whether certain short sellers provided information (some of which may have been incomplete or misleading) to pliant sell-side boutiques for regurgitation as a conveniently timed "research report," in return for commission dollars. That would be a naughty thing to do! The investigation has gone on for awhile; it might be reasonable to assume the agency is on to something. I'm surprised that reporters' interest in the matter extends only to complaining about the subpoenas they're getting.

3. If Eisinger thinks that the S.E.C.'s moves will have a chilling effect on research, and embolden other CEOs to complain to the agency about how their companies are treated by the shorts, a la Overstock.com's Patrick Byrne, he's kidding himself. Trust me Jesse, no CEO in the country wants to be thought of as the next Patrick Byrne.

4. Eisinger way overestimates the public service he provides by talking to shorts and then publishing what they have to say. The reason he (and many other market reporters) spend so much time talking to short sellers is that it's convenient and smart-sounding (remember: longs are naive apple-pickers, skeptics/shorts are contrarians doing the "real work" on companies). My supposition is that by and large the longs, whose positions are by their nature less precarious, don't spend nearly as much time talking to the media.

5. Less sanctimony, please. We're not talking about the fate of the Republic, here. This is the stock market.

For what it's worth, by the way, when I skimmed the transcript of Byrne's "Sith Lord" conference call, I couldn't make heads or tails of it. . . .
Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By bobo on 3/29/2006 2:20 PM
We lost the original blog - the bug in the system. Here's the comments and the reconstructed original...
Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By onemoretimeBOB on 3/29/2006 4:50 PM
if shares are lent over and over again as Byrne had contended who pays the dividend?

Short sellers are responsible for all dividends due the rightful owner

Does the shareholder get paid the dividend twice? three times? Do they split it up and each pay 1/2 or 1/3 each?

Would like you to answer this one Bob
Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By dave on 3/29/2006 4:52 PM
In a daisy chain, there is more than one borrower. Each borrower pays the PIL.

Bobo, make sure you catch my post in the last blog: the site links S&L, Milken, MJK, Elgindy, BCCI, Global Securities (where a lot of naked shorts are run through).

Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By bobo on 3/29/2006 5:02 PM
OnemoretimeBob - The company pays the owner of the real share. Each time it is lent and leaves a security entitlement in its wake, the short seller that borrows it pays the person he borrowed it from. In a naked sale, the failed seller pays the dough.
Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By rtway1 on 3/29/2006 8:26 PM
Jesse should have the oil changed on his hair.
Re: Jesse Eisinger Is Again Outraged, Outraged I Say - Part 1,498... By mig on 3/29/2006 11:40 PM
What was it HG used to say that I haven't heard for a while? It was something like...The complaint meter is spinning out of control like a fan I tell ya?

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