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The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro

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Posted by:   bobo 3/16/2006 12:00 AM

The DTCC has been busy, choosing not to discuss why they misstated Cam Funkhauser of the NASD’s comments from the NASAA conference, or why they disseminated the falsehood that they were never invited to that conference – rather, they have ignored being caught red-handed, and instead issued another in a series of twisted, slanted, self-serving statements intended to denigrate their critics. Let’s look at the latest one, targeting the former Under-Secretary of Commerce, Robert Shapiro:

“Media Statement on Robert Shapiro’s Report on Naked Short Sales

Robert Shapiro has admitted to DTCC he is a paid consultant for the John O’Quinn and Wes Christian legal firms, which have been suing DTCC with respect to naked short selling.“

Huh? No kidding. "Admitted?" Wrong. He has stated as much numerous times. Like in the first paragraph of this open letter to the DTCC, issued almost a year ago. “Admitted” is a rhetorical dishonesty intended to deceive the reader into believing that he was trying to conceal it, and was exposed, under duress. Nothing could be further from the truth, and this is also typical of the intellectual dishonesty in play in these DTCC statements. Here are some more bits of dross from the DTCC:

• Robert Shapiro’s report is replete with errors, baseless numbers (e.g., estimated fails), faulty analysis that we believe mischaracterizes and misinforms.

Really. Wow. That sure sounds damaging. Like “Admitted” does.

Uh, the reason he has to estimate fails is because you won’t tell anyone what the actual fails numbers are (aside from your owner/members, who keep the data secret, as well as the SEC, who also keeps the data secret). We can start there. So that is the sort of statement that is again, deliberately misleading – the DTCC can claim there are errors, as there is no way of verifying the truth. Ditto for estimates. They are baseless, precisely because the DTCC keeps the data hidden. Nice, huh?

“• He ignores authoritative statements by SEC on these issues, which are readily available on the SEC Web site and reinforced in an amicus brief the SEC filed in support of DTCC in a recent legal proceeding. We believe he does this intentionally.”

The SEC also said that the investors horrified by the grandfathering and the 70% plunges in the value of SHO list stocks were just a bunch of malcontents. So their authoritative statements leave much to be desired, and are anything but.

The recent Amicus brief is a separate issue. Suffice it to say that it has holes the size of the Lincoln Tunnel. We can start with the fact that it cherry-picks UCC 8, and ignores the limiting language in that law, choosing the sections it likes and ignoring the sections it doesn’t. You can also consider that the 4 cases it supplies as basis for the assertions therein don’t support its assertions. You could further wonder aloud at the conflicts between the 1934 Securities Exchange Act, and several of the pronouncements the SEC asserts as fact – which will all be discussed at length in NCANS’ own Amicus, which will be submitted to counter this piece of work from the SEC – but that is a future blog topic.

Just consider that this statement is declarative, with no support, and attempts to make general declarations supported by a brief that is faultily constructed and reasoned. And it does so without any specificity, the sure sign of a lack of fact – this is nothing more than ad hominem, and argument from authority – two classic logical fallacies.

• Mr. Shapiro continuously misstates our role in the industry. DTCC does not regulate the industry and is not an enforcement agency. We are highly regulated by the SEC.”

Well, now. I mean, WTF. The DTCC is a SRO. Self Regulatory Organization, chartered with “regulating the business conduct of its members.” Like the NASD for the Nasdaq is, and the NYSE for its participant/owners.

But suddenly it lacks the ability to regulate its participant/member/owners? Then what is it regulating – parking validation? Who is drinking too much coffee?

Please.

I mean, really – please. The DTCC passes rules for its subsidiaries – the NSCC and the DTC; which it conveniently likes to pretend aren’t all one and the same big unit divided up for business reasons – SBU’s, if you like (Strategic Business Units). Those rules have to be approved by the SEC. They are rules for an SRO – and yet here, the DTCC pretends that they are something else again. Alright, I’ll bite. What are they – polite suggestions? Hints? “If you get a chance, try to deliver shares, ‘hmmm ‘kay, but only if you get around to it”?

The DTCC is an SRO: “An entity, such as the NASD, responsible for regulating its members through the adoption and enforcement of rules and regulations governing the business conduct of its members”. Now, what part of that seems ambiguous? And how are the DTCC’s statements consistent with that? Seems like they want to be treated like an SRO when the lawyers are coming after them, but want to duck responsibility when it means taking their owner/bosses to task over larcenous behavior. So instead of addressing this paradox, they state they aren’t an enforcement agency. Uh huh.

Yeah. We get that the PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION isn’t an enforcement agency – thanks for pointing that out. It is not part of the government. It is a private company. Until it gets sued – then it wants the full protection of being “quasi-governmental.” But I digress…

Here are some more chestnuts from the release:

“Thus for example, Mr. Shapiro states, “At any time, the DTCC could fully clear and settle every extended naked short sale or failure to deliver by doing what it once did routinely in such cases: Buy the shares itself in the market (“buying in”) and charge the account of the naked short seller’s broker.”

Mr. Shapiro is wrong; the SEC has stated publicly that we do not have such authority:

“NSCC does not have the authority to execute buy-ins on behalf of its members. Moreover, forcing close-outs of all fails can increase risk in clearing and settlement as well as potentially interfering with the trading and pricing of securities.”

Right. It could. But it passed rules declaring itself to be “powerless” to do so. Kind of like me declaring I am “powerless” to deal with things I just don’t feel like doing – and then declaring that I am so “powerless”, specifically because I passed rules making me so. “Sorry, I can’t pay that bill, I am powerless to do so – I passed a rule that said that any bills that come in on odd days won’t get paid until next month…”

This is pure, unadulterated happy horseshit. And it is the sort the DTCC specializes in – how convenient that they claim to be “powerless” to force their own member/owners to obey Federal securities law – again, even though they are a SRO, chartered with regulating the business conduct of their members. Confused? So am I…

“• His use of the terms “fails to deliver” and “naked short selling” interchangeably throughout this report is intended to confuse reality and we believe he does this deliberately.

The SEC has stated, “There are many reasons why NSCC members (a subsidiary of DTCC) do not or cannot deliver securities to NSCC on the settlement date. Many times the member will experience a problem that is either unanticipated or is out of its control, such as (1) delays in customer delivery of shares to the broker dealer; (2) an inability to borrow shares in time for settlement; (3) delays in obtaining transfer of title; (4) an inability to obtain transfer of title; and (5) deliberate failure to produce stock at settlement which may result in a broker dealer not receiving shares it had purchased to fulfill its deliver obligations.”

Sure. Except that covers everything from the dog eating the certificate, to deliberate, willful failure. So it actually doesn’t support anything that the DTCC is saying. It merely parrots that there are innocent failures, and deliberate ones. Thank you, Dr. Obvioso. If the patient were not dead, he would be alive. I get it. We all do.

“• In truth, failed transactions (whatever the reasons) represent less than one-tenth of one percent of the more than 26 million average daily transactions handled by DTCC.”

Huh. So somewhere less than 26K transactions fail per day. Transactions.

How many shares per transaction? 10K? 100K? Oh, that’s right, they don’t say – they just try to frame it in such a way as to make it sound trivial. What was it Byrne said – they are lying through their teeth? Why all the amateur theatrics? Why not just say “X million shares fail every day, representing Y number of dollars, and we are taking the position that is a small problem”?

And does that include ex-clearing “securities arrangements”? You know, the contractual arrangements that the DTCC allows its owner/participants to make, wherein the DTCC essentially delegates the delivery portion of transactions to the two brokers, on the honor system? They aren’t part of the daily fails – and the DTCC claims it is also “powerless” to regulate those – as does the SEC, so nobody really knows how large a fails problem those “arrangements” cover-up. Given that 100% of Dr. Byrne’s hundreds of thousands of fails were ALL ex-clearing, and further given that the DTCC numbers don’t include all the fails and NSS from Canada and the other foreign clearing centers, those could easily be ten times as large as the DTCC’s 1/10 number – nice omission, huh? Oh…those.

And the willful, deliberate fails are likely mostly being executed in these out-of-system areas, specifically so they won’t light up the warning lights – thus the “in-system” DTCC fails are likely a small tip of an iceberg. How nice that the DTCC doesn’t count any of that, or even mention it? It’s kind of like taking the position that whatever I did on my vacation out of town doesn’t count. “Honey, what do you mean, was I carrying on with 6 hookers in Barbados? I can’t believe you are asking that – you know that I only did that 1/10 of all the time we’ve been together…”

“• Mr. Shapiro asserts that Reg SHO has not reduced the total number of outstanding fails. However, in his own report, his numbers demonstrate a 10% reduction in aggregate fails (nearly 58 million shares) and a 32% reduction in companies on the threshold list–and this was within the first three months under Reg SHO (see table 1, pg 5).”

Wow. That is something.

Why is the DTCC trying to defend Reg SHO now? Do they have a vested interest in claiming that it is "working"? Because first they issued that fiction last month, where they mangled the truth to declare it was a success, and now here they are at it again. What's up with that?

But several thoughts occur reading their bit here – first, how were those companies cleared from the list? Did they go BK? Were they de-listed? That’s a convenient sleight of hand I always enjoy – if Delta goes BK, the fails are erased, and through no improvement in the system, the numbers drop. So it is hard to know what it means. I’ll be happy to do a comparison when I get some time, but who wants to bet that those statistics can be tortured however you like?

Even the language used is deliberately sloppy. Take this: “32% reduction in companies on the threshold list”. Does that mean a 32% reduction in the number of companies on the list, or a 32% reduction in their value, or even better, does any reduction merely reflect seasonality?  Why is the example they used so narrow? What is the reduction, if any, total, to date – never mind cherry-picking one data point – and further, tell us what percentage of that reduction is because the companies were de-listed or went BK. Remember, these are the same folks that claimed they weren’t invited to the NASAA conference, when they actually were – so a fair degree of skepticism is appropriate when parsing and weighing their comments….

“• Mr. Shapiro is absolutely wrong in saying DTCC “tracks the precise number of fails for every stock, including all threshold companies, yet refuses to release those data to anyone, even affected firms.”

DTCC provides data on the volume of fails daily to the regulatory bodies responsible for policing and enforcing broker conduct, including the marketplaces (NYSE, NASD, etc.) and the SEC. In addition, this data is used by these regulatory bodies for reporting on and the policing of Reg SHO compliance.”

Uh, I think what Shapiro is saying is that the DTCC won’t tell anyone other than their partners in crime (that would be their larger OWNERS: the NYSE and NASD/NASDAQ) and the SEC – who keeps the data secret.

Let me clear this up – they may tell people, but the only ones they tell are their owners, and the regulator that won’t tell divulge anything outside of the circle of silence. So effectively, the data is a secret. Get it? I did. Apparently the DTCC requires reading comprehension lessons. This is one of those deliberate, Clinton-esque “I never had sexual relations” quotes we are so often treated to from the DTCC – perhaps legally precise and technically true, but misleading in the macro.

“DTCC’s subsidiaries do not disclose confidential information to the marketplace, including data on fails, since it could potentially be used in market manipulation.

And while we have data on the volume of fails, we have no information on the underlying causes of those fails. As noted above, there are many causes of fails.”

Right. Can’t let the manipulative trading techniques that have companies on the SHO list for over a year be seen for what they are. Tut tut, we’ll have none of that. Because then the DTCC wouldn’t be able to claim that they don’t know what is going on, or what is causing all the fails. Only if they were transparent would the marketplace be accurately and completely informed of what was transpiring, and that would be bad – because, POTENTIALLY, the data on who is manipulating what, could be used - against the manipulators. You are reading this correctly. Gotta keep it a secret or the DTCC’s larcenous owner/bosses might be preyed on by other predators – and we can’t have that. Better to sanctimoniously claim that all this is being done to maintain the market’s integrity – again, by the private corporation owned by the brokers who are failing to deliver in the first place.

Ditto for why they have a don’t ask, don’t tell policy on the fails – hey, if broker A is consistently failing on OSTK and NFI and TASR, day after day , week after week, month after month, it COULD be not because they are lying cheating rat-bastards, but rather just extraordinarily unlucky. I mean, it could be true. In the sort of narrow, theoretical way that there could be an infinite number of universes splitting off into separate yet genuine realities billions of times per second, and we exist in all of them simultaneously but in slightly different states. I mean, that could be happening. Could. Anything is possible.

Anyone else feel queasy when the best the privately-owned monopoly that owns most of the securities in the United States can come up with, is a defense based on theoretical possibility, versus probability?

You should.

This is simply the latest attempt to slam everyone that is correctly pointing out that the DTCC is full of it. Trimbath, Shapiro, Finnerty. They are all bad bad bad.

Is anyone fooled?

This is pretty weak for an offensive, actually – sort of like they didn’t have anything they could really go after, and had to create a loose patchwork of general statements to try to create the appearance they want.

Nice try, guys. The more of these you issue, the more obvious it is that you are covering something up.

Again, this is a private corporation that is lashing out, much as the tobacco companies did against whistleblowers. Exactly as they did.

Didn’t O’Quinn prevail there, as well?

No wonder these guys are sweating bullets.

I don’t blame them a bit…

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Comments (67)
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By SheilaEee on 3/15/2006 10:49 PM
Bobo, you are so on it, it's scary. I read this piece in horror, and you tore it completely apart so effectively. You put into words what I was thinking as my stomach tied itself in knots. Thank you so much for being on our side.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By elvis on 3/15/2006 10:50 PM
If you want a surreal read poke around here.

http://www.dtcc.com/nomorepaper/index.html

Crack me up!

If electronic is so efficient, why do we still have a T+3 settlement lag? Computer transactions are faster than Oprah heading for the buffet line.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By n-tres-ted on 3/15/2006 10:50 PM
Putting out press releases to derogate their critics? That is remarkable. They can see this problem gaining critical mass, with CNBC folding in upon itself, along with Dow Jones more or less going quiet. They were probably told that DTCC would have to start carrying the ball, and this is the best they can think to do. Pathetically ineffective, yet some of the intrepid reporters will probably be able to use some of it in their copy (such as Shapiro's "admission" that he is actually paid as an expert to assist in analyzing their misconduct.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By bobo on 3/15/2006 10:51 PM
elvis: Well, uh, you know, because so many failures COULD be innocent - uh....like they are lost.....

Of course, if we knew the data we could judge this for ourselves versus doing the "what's behind door number 4" routine...

You think there might be a reason they aren't being forthcoming...?
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By n-tres-ted on 3/15/2006 10:52 PM
My goodness, Elvis. That link you provided shows DTCC is trying to get the regs changed so that no public corporation will be permitted to issue paper certificates for shares.

http://www.dtcc.com/Publications/dtcc/jan06/drs.html
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By bobo on 3/15/2006 10:52 PM
The "Admission" thing is wild - I mean, how blantanly smarmy do you have to be? F*ck, it isn't like he didn't announce that a year ago in the linked letter!

And why is the DTCC just now doing a hatchet job on that correspondence? That is A YEAR OLD!!!!

The alarm bells must be going off in the liar's club if this is their new directive. Flop sweat a rolling, all night long...

I wonder if Byrne's presentation got them asked a host of very, very uncomfortable questions?

How many more suits are being drafted, as we speak, now that this cat is out of the bag?

No wonder they are skittish...
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By dave on 3/15/2006 11:08 PM
The NSCC claims that 97% of all trades "net" or cancel to zero. Nothing has to be delivered.

It is reasonable to believe that the same happens for other clearing companies that are underneath the DTCC system.

Many of the participants at the DTC are not brokerages. They are other clearing houses. You can see a list for yourself here:

https://login.dtcc.com/dtcorg/binary/19004Part_Numerical.pdf

"Approximately ninety percent of all broker-dealers registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) hire clearing brokers and utilize clearing arrangements."

"This increase of nearly 900% over twenty-six years is, in large part, the direct result of favorable regulatory treatment accorded clearing arrangements by the SEC."

Presumably, 97% of the time the trades these 90% of brokerages make cancel out at the second tier clearing houses before they even get to the DTCC records.

Of course these clearing houses are honest. It doesn't matter that the case law is that they can participate in felony level larceny and are not responsible as their contract is not with the end investor.

"These firms are paid to clear trades, not to watch customers. Clearing firms will charge more or consider leaving the business if they are asked to police sales practices and that will end up hurting the average customer," says Sidley Austin Brown & Wood lawyer Henry Minnerop, who has represented most of Wall Street's clearing firms over the years.

http://www.sidley.com/lawyers/bio.asp?ID=M497722507

“Even if one accepts that the complaint sufficiently alleges that Bear Stearns did this with knowledge that these brokers were manipulating the securities at issue, the complaint does not establish Bear Stearns primary liability under § 10(b).”

A real life example:

MJK cleared for 75 brokerages representing 175,000 people. The trades that those 175,000 people did canceled out 97% of the time and only 3% of the time had to hit the DTCC system. This is X-Clearing at its finest.

The shit hit the fan on that one - how was that possible? Could it happen again? How did Refco have half a trillion worth of counterfeit bonds?

How come the kid that holds up the 7-11 for a free slurpee gets jail time, but when you steal a half trillion, the SEC talks about a settlement in lieu of a fine?

If you're pissed, tell your friends and post to blogs: http://www.thesanitycheck.com and http://www.investigatethesec.com.

I'm looking forward to the celebration in the fall when the system is fixed. That means we have to put on the heat to expose the corruption in the clearing systems NOW!

Each snowflake feels like it doesn't make a difference, but as they pile on, eventually you get an avalanche. We need a blizzard over the next few weeks, so we have to all do our part.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By dave on 3/15/2006 11:22 PM
I was surprised at the outraged response to Patrick's slide with the beneficial versus actual ownership at the brokerages. I thought everyone knew that it is COMMON PRACTICE for brokerages to own less shares than their clients think they have, for the clearing houses to own less shares than the introducing brokerages think they have and for the DTCC to let the whole mess fail to deliver.

It's amazing anyone ever gets a real share.

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Their commentary on "maybe there are honest reasons for fails" is like a bank explaining to their shareholders that they aren't sure what they own:

"We're not sure if the bank was robbed. There may or may not be money missing from the vault, but we can't tell anyone as that information is proprietary. Sometimes there is less money there than there should be because occassionally the Brinks truck gets a flat tire and teller Sheila is absent minded, sometimes leaving money at home. You can't always assume that if there is money missing from the vault that it is theft. You need to accept that it is uncommon for the right amount of money to be in the vault and sometimes there is a perfectly innocent reason for it to be missing."

This is absolute BS - they are THE DEPOSITORY THAT IS THE ACTUAL OWNER OF EVERY STREET FORM SHARE. If they can't keep track of who owns what, then who can? They are the ACTUAL OWNER OF YOUR SHARES. Think about that!!!

The DTCC is not an anonymous organization. There are PEOPLE working there who should be personally liable if they are making decisions that put the clearing system at risk so they can personally get a bigger check each week.

Now would be a good time for whistleblowers from the SEC and DTCC to come forward.

Who wrote that drivel? Was it Larry the DTCC lawyer?
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By zipperhead on 3/15/2006 11:32 PM
Bob,

What and where is Shapiro's report located? Is it available on the web?

TIA
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By rvac106 on 3/15/2006 11:43 PM
Can we start looking at which elected officials got campaign contributions from broker/dealers? How about hedge funds? Can anybody analyze Shelby's contributor list? I'd love to see how the soft (and hard) money flows. Is this info available? How about the research department taking a look?

By the way, if you're keeping score, in the three way.... Patrick, ONE, (that would be the announcement at JPM's meeting of the 'sordid list of miscreant brokers,') DTCC, ONE, (ripping a new one for Shapiro,) and Major Media, MINUS 20. (That would constitute the number of Media Outlets which DIDN'T report on Patrick's little 'Chart of the Miscreants!' Not a freakin' word!

I'm sure they're hoping that 1) this will all go away if we just ignore it hard enough, and 2)everybody will know that, if it all was true, we'd be reporting on it, dontcha think?

Elections are coming up. Find out how crooked your elected officials are. Then, give them the boot. They work for us, remember?

RVAC
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By mfairview on 3/16/2006 1:16 AM
Someone on TMF made the analogy that the DTCC is sort of like a "Napster" in that they create an environment where illegal activities can occur. That Napster said they are powerless against those misusing the system didn't seem to do them much good in court.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By CMKXLives on 3/16/2006 1:17 AM
Check out Bud Burrells blog on CMKX everyone.

OSTK, NFI and CMKX our winners and all others big losers. I intend to spread the word and get all the CMKX posters to come here and help out.

Just say no to naked short selling.

CMKX Diamonds are forever
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By mfairview on 3/16/2006 1:49 AM
re: CMKX an Bud. Why the confusion? http://cmkxdiamond.proboards66.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=trash&thread=1142485304
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By mfairview on 3/16/2006 2:22 AM
“DTCC’s subsidiaries do not disclose confidential information to the marketplace, including data on fails, since it could potentially be used in market manipulation.

And while we have data on the volume of fails, we have no information on the underlying causes of those fails. As noted above, there are many causes of fails.”

So only the SRO members have access to this information. Can someone remind me who the SRO members are again? Aren't they the people that would necessarily benefit from this information????
*** Dirty Lying Bastards *** By InTheKNow on 3/16/2006 2:38 AM
The chickens will come home to roost and shit all over them dirty lying bastards!

Can't wait till Friday!
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By mfairview on 3/16/2006 2:42 AM
What happens on Friday?
Re: What happens on Friday? By InTheKnow on 3/16/2006 3:08 AM
Payday!
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By The Midas Touch co-author on 3/16/2006 3:28 AM
A few days ago the DTCC did a press release on Dr. Trimbath. During her time with the DTCC, her business cards listed her as Director. Her job title was manager according to the DTCC press release. I've included this link to the press release from the DTCC-
http://www.dtcc.com/PressRoom/2006/workexpe.html
Now, compare that link to her actual work experience listed on her website-
http://www.stpadvisors.com/aboutus.html
I also suggest people look at the bibliography on that site.

I'll let the readers draw their own onclusions.

Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Granny on 3/16/2006 3:32 AM
Political Contributions Site

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=F03&cycle=2006
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By lenofus on 3/16/2006 4:10 AM
You dont' even need to be Robert Shapiro. Watch any of these stocks trade on a daily basis, and you'll know what's going on. HDSN,UBSS, DOMS, VFIN....... There will be hell to pay.
Spitzer, HRBlock???!!!! give me a %^&*( break. Political Hack. Look at me. I'm helping.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By mhelburn on 3/16/2006 5:03 AM
The fact that the DTCC is attacking its critics instead of fixing the problems proves that they are criminals. When presented with evidence that their system is harming people, they attack those who are telling them instead of doing something that would help those in jeopardy...except that the harm to the public companies that are under attack by the Enterprise is balanced by the benefit to the Enterprise.

We know that some brokerages, some hedge funds, some analyst/publishers, some media hacks are all working together to steal money from the capitalization of companies and their shareholders. The only question is how much have they stolen?

Larry and Stu, you are not immune. Every day, the evidence is piling up. You are either a criminal or an honest person. When you work for and abet criminals, you are not honest. This little dance that you and Jill are doing isn't very attractive.
Did Jill approve your lame attacks on the good Dr's?

She's doing a hell of a job. She has managed to fight off numerous lawsuits of people who have been robbed. What a fighter! And Larry and Stu, are you the sturdy warhorses that she rides into battle? Or are you a pair of pack mules? You get paid like warhorses..but you are aiding and abetting keeping the truth from investors.

On an annual basis, according to the DTCC's account, there are a minimum 5,200,000 failed transactions and some can last for months. If the majority of them are strategic fails are in a few companies, that is a lot of ammunition for the criminals to kill companies.

Jill, Stu, and Larry, or is it Larry, Mo and Curly? The more you protest, the more you look like stooges.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Granny on 3/16/2006 5:08 AM
I think I posted the open secrets link to Shelby but it got lost somewhere.

You can click on the tabs and find out all kinds of interesting stuff.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.asp?CID=N00009920&cycle=2002

Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Granny on 3/16/2006 5:18 AM
Goldman Sachs is pretty generous with the money

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.asp?ID=D000000085
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By hhawes on 3/16/2006 6:22 AM
Bobo,

I am new to your site (about 2 wks) and find it fascinating. I am still trying to understand all the implications of NSS. Question: According to Dr. Bryne’s presentation the other day, slide 24, there are 6.8 million shares held by longs that are probably counterfeit shares. Do I understand that correctly? If so, and if OSTK was a dividend paying company, how would the miscreants fund those dividends?

Also, I am long NFI and have been for some time. I have never missed receiving a dividend. Does that mean I own real shares? Thanks. Just trying to understand the situation.

Harry
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By bobo on 3/16/2006 6:52 AM
hhawes: The shorts pay the dividend. The DTCC has a program to facillitate that - they sort of think of everything, no?

Sorry for the annoying pet and other posts. I don't dare delete them or this starts posting the messages in the center again...
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Johnboy on 3/17/2006 10:45 AM
Folks, the blog software has a bug in it, and all new posts are going into the center of these comments, rather than the end. Nobody knows why, but the web guy theorizes that it is due to the unprecedented traffic here. Please bear with us while we work to fix the problem, and check the center of these comments for the latest - and if you post, check before posting the same info multiple times - thanks, Bobo.

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bobo, Here is a video on the history of the Federal Reserve. It shows who realy runs the country and the mentality of these people. If the DTCC is owned by the same group it should explain things.

It is free on google and called money masters.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=money+masters
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Johnboy on 3/16/2006 7:20 AM
bobo, Here is a video on the history of the Federal Reserve. It shows who realy runs the country and the mentality of these people. If the DTCC is owned by the same group it should explain things.

It is free on google and called money masters.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=money+masters
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By rick on 3/16/2006 7:39 AM
boboman,
0.1% of 26 million transactions is 26k not 260k (middle-bottom of pg 3 of printout).

Love what you're doing. Thank God we have Patrick and you leading the charge. Wrote a letter to my Congressman (Jim Gerlach) and he replied about HR 3492 instead (credit card law). Maybe I'm stupid - I wrote him back.

Love Patrick's Gandhi quote at end of JP Morgan presentation.

Go go go,
rick
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By bobo on 3/16/2006 7:53 AM
Zipperhead - it is in the Library section of this site - the year old open letter to the DTCC.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Niel Storts on 3/16/2006 8:02 AM
Mentally agile defenders of the dtcc only had to have a year to come up with the comeback for Mr. Shapiro's statement that they are bald faced liars......... To wit....... "He's a liar!!!" ....... Clearly those folks ARE the "best and brightest"......Dr. Brynes used to climb through the ropes. He will be able to tell everyone how you can KNOW that your opponent is beaten. Then it is just a matter of keeping up the pressure until the opening appears for the knock out blow. This is getting more encouraging by the day.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By jcline on 3/16/2006 8:48 AM
Gotta just LOVE Bear Stearns... they make record revenues from equity trades and increased fees ( announced today...), and then pay the SEC 250 M in penalties from fraud. Amazing way to make a living!

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060316/earns_bear_stearns.html?.v=6
http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/bearstearns031606.htm
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By rtway1 on 3/16/2006 8:57 AM
The very fact that these masters of numbers and word manipulation did not show up at the NASAA and then print this uncontestable document speak volumes of guilt. Add to that all of the inaccuracies and lies of omission this smells worse than a CNBC special. Don,t forget that 26 mil of transactions included bond trading also. The other thing that you have mentioned before is that if you were to examine the unavoidable fails(I am trying not to gag on this) are usually spread out on a select group of stocks. The most important thing you eluded to is something that I never thought about and is huge. When lawyers smell blood, look out, the courts will be jammed with shareholder suits. My chocolate lab can tell a better lie than these clowns.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Zinkler on 3/16/2006 9:13 AM
Bobo, in addition to hhawkes ? ... from what I understand, if I request my certificates, and have them in hand ... I know that I have a real share ... but what if my shares are in an IRA account? I was told that I could not get the certs, or it's considered a distribution from the IRA. Do you know of any way to get the certs in my IRA? Thanks.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By rtway1 on 3/16/2006 9:33 AM
An idea just came into my head after looking at how this web site has grown over the last 6 mos. as well as Dave Patch,s site. One could start a sort of consumer advocate show, somewhat like 20/20 with people like yourself Bob and Dave and Mark as moderators. How it would be funded is another story. Just an idea.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By dave on 3/16/2006 9:49 AM
Their 2005 financial statements are out. They've changed the language. They no longer owe shares to the buyers. Now they need to "redeliver" the shares to the buyers.

They claim that they have $2,445,326,000 worth of fail to deliver at current market prices and $977,702,000 in the stock borrow program.

These numbers seem really low to me - I think the reason is most of the fails are hidden in the tier 2 clearing brokerages used by 90% of US brokerages.

"The CNS system interposes NSCC between participants in securities clearance and settlement. CNS
transactions are generally guaranteed as of the later of midnight of T+1, or midnight of the day they
are reported to the membership as compared/recorded. The failure of participants to deliver securities
to NSCC on settlement date, and the corresponding failure of NSCC to redeliver the securities, results
in open positions. Open positions are marked-to-market daily. Such marks are debited or credited to
the involved participants through the settlement process. At the close of business on December 31,
2005, open positions due to NSCC approximated $3,423,028,000 ($4,346,655,000 at December 31,
2004), and open positions due by NSCC to participants approximated $2,445,326,000
($3,328,295,000 at December 31, 2004) for unsettled positions and $977,702,000 ($1,018,360,000
at December 31, 2004) for securities borrowed through NSCC’s Stock Borrow Program. At December
31, 2005, NSCC has an obligation to complete pending transactions totaling $49.9 billion."
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By pinkice on 3/16/2006 10:12 AM
bobo - excellent article. DTCC - attempting to pass the blame and stonewalling will do them no good IMHO. Main Street American now fully comprehends how extensive the corruption runs on Wall Street IMHO.

I suggest again the regulated, SEC and DTCC, need to be regulated. We have seen self-regulating by the DTCC is useless with regards to the Reg. SHO list, FTD and NSS issues. A congressional committee needs to be appointed to look into these issues and clean up Wall Street IMHO. There is no credability or trust left on Wall Street IMHO. The hedgies/broker-dealers/tutes kept their hands in the cookie jar way too long.

Mainstream American wants Wall Street brought to justice. If there is no problem, open the books for an audit. In fact the DTCC should open the books with open arms if there is no problem to clear the air.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By dave on 3/16/2006 10:44 AM
n-tres-ted, they are audited. The financials just came out and are on http://www.dtcc.com.

The problem is the financials don't mention the info that we care about, except to disclose a multi billion dollar liability as an aggregate priced at current share prices.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By stan on 3/16/2006 11:32 AM
I just read Gary's latest, and he sounds as nervous as a cat in a roomful of rocking chairs. Sounds like someone has the dirt on him, and he is trying to figure out how to spin it. This is getting good. I can't sait for him to take one in the head, he's meen such a shit all through this.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By bobo on 3/16/2006 11:47 AM
Stan: We don't discuss 'lil GW here anymore. He's completely irrelevant to the discussion, and is a mouthpiece for a particular agenda. I hope someone has the dirt on him - I'd love for him to be exposed as a fraud and a liar. At that point I would devote a whole blog to it. Until then, though, I have 4 words: Knitting With Dog Hair.

Knitting with Dog Hair (8 years old): Amazon.com Sales Rank: #82,254 in Books

His new book: Amazon.com Sales Rank: #140,377 in Books

Lower is better.

Knitting with dog hair is twice as popular as he is. Like I said, completely irrelevant. And a hack, as well.

Any questions?
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By dave on 3/16/2006 12:25 PM
There is a certain schadenfreude in discussing lil w', but besides my curiousity as to his relationship to the rest of the enterprise, I agree that it doesn't serve the cause to give his book free publicity.

We're best to ignore him and the rest of his baloney brigade and their claims that there is a conspiracy to out corrupt reporters.

Any progress on fixing the comments? I bet a lot of readers are missing the latest ones. Have you verified that the server clock isn't getting reset and that its version of AM / PM matches reality?
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Joseph Avenius on 3/16/2006 1:52 PM
Remenber the movie where they said "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!!"?
If we want to win, we must all put in some time like bobo is, and write some letters. There is an election soon, & if you don't get angry at being robbed, what are you going to get angry about??
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By johnny on 3/16/2006 1:53 PM
I notice it is posting the 17th when it is only the 16th in the US. Could the posting problem be related to the date?
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By CMKX TASK FORCE on 3/16/2006 3:37 PM
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Thank you Jesus
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By hwh on 3/16/2006 8:20 PM
The DTCC was & is the conduit through which the here-to-for unimaginable volume of trades cleared each day was created. They can not claim the accuracy of the process has improved by quoting any metric. On the contrary, the percentage of fails has increased by all accounting methods.

We tip waiter/waitresses for accurate service rendered. A $45 dinner begets a $5 tip where a $2000 investment begets the same commission. You can eat the family meal. You can not pawn the unattainable Outback Steakhouse certificate.

Stop selling the technicological marvel for it's processing efficencies. We can get more value at McDonald's $5 value meal for the money than an empty napkin reservoir.

We require delivery of our meal...hwh



Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By mig on 3/16/2006 8:23 PM
I am a share holder in a smaller company called Navarre (NAVR). Maybe you know the name as it is one of the 5 companies named in the subpoena to Herb Greenberg, and is a David Rocker Put holding. Navr was at one time one of the companies at the top of the SHO list for length of time on list. They had to consolidate a V.I.E. and missed a 10Q filing by 5 days. They were listed on the sho list with a "E" at the end for one day and then was back on the list about a week later as NAVR with the "clock" reset. The short interest did increase that month. It has not been off the list before or after this since the lists inception.

My main point is I believe a change in the ticker symbol can take a company off the SHO list temporarily and it really should not as it is still the same security.

p.s. I am also an NFI owner since before Reg SHO. I am not sure why I am attracted to these shorted companies. Maybe it is the price discount.
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By teacheric on 3/16/2006 8:57 PM
How can giving us the FTD info be used to manipulate the market? All they have to do is continue to naked-short to infinity as they are doing now. What if the number for NFI was 70 million FTD's? Would that make everyone go and buy more shares of NFI, thinking that would make them cover? I highly doubt it. If that many shares have gone undelivered, then I would suspect there is nothing to stop that many more from doing the same. Let's open the books!!!!!!
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By mhatmccane on 3/16/2006 9:26 PM
Estimates: The preparation of financial statements in conformity with generally accepted accounting
principles requires management to make estimates and assumptions that affect the reported amounts
of assets and liabilities and disclosure of contingent assets and liabilities at the date of the financial statements
and the reported amounts of revenues and expenses during the reporting period. Actual results
could differ from those estimates.


Above is from the DTC Annual report footnotes. Are these the same people that are giging Dr. Shaipero for "estimating fails"
Re: Lloyd Fan. What is he doing? By anun on 3/17/2006 12:31 AM
rtway1, RE: One could start a sort of consumer advocate show
Q Television. Alternative media.
Get it?
You'll notice that QBID has been run through the selling pressure mill.
Why?
Who is scared of a television station?

Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By Patchie on 3/17/2006 7:19 AM
The problem is that the DTCC is just ignorant. They don't understand their role in the markets.

Below is a memo from Stu Goldstein of the DTCC to a concerned investor. When you read this memo, think about what Stu is saying.

Mr -----, I'm sorry you feel this way. If you read what the SEC- has said
on this matter......you might have a different perspective. Check out
their Web site on what regulators have said.

This past week they announced the prosecution in a case of market
abuse.....and that's what the SEC- does.

But they have not found any truth to the allegations that you refer to.
Quite to the contrary.

What we do supports the ability of our capital markets in the U.S. to be
the most competitive in the world.

The only fraud here are the gross misrepresentations of the truth by folks
who are being paid to issue these reports.

Let's look to the proper authorities to adjudicate the truth in these
matters.
If the allegations had legs, you'd see regulators and law enforcement going
after it.

Best to you and your family.

Stu


Stuart Z. Goldstein
Managing Director
Corporate Communications
Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation
55 Water Street 51 fl
New York, NY 10041
212.855.5470 (o)
sgoldstein@dtcc.com

Now lets discuss a few points;

1. The SEC case announced existed because TRADE SETTLEMENT was ignored. The DTCC is responsible for trade settlement. The trades that failed were between 2000 and 2002 and took place on 23 companies that resulted in $7 Million in illegal profits. Stu accepts this abuse taking place within his operations.

2. The allegations do have legs which is why we have seen a rapid increase in the number of enforcement cases being brought forward (Shane, Pollet, Mangan, Rhino, Thorp, Elgindy, Ryan, with negotions taking place with Refco, FBR, TradStation, etc...). The SEC created SHO and the NASD changed 3370 BECAUSE of this fraud that Stu claims is non-existent.

3. Market competition premised on fraud is not competition. We allow our Markets to be manipulated and Stu calls this competition. Just look at all the recent scandals involving a corrupt Wall Street business model as proof our competition is derived from fraud.

The sad thing here is that the DTCC's responsibility in this game is simple. Clear and Settle trades.

I find it amusing that the fraud identified is prefaced off a failure to settle trades and Stu thinks they are not responsible to address this. Do you think a BD would accept the clearance to be a year late? The reason the stock borrow program was created was so that the clearance in a fail could take place even if the settlement did not.

Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By n-tres-ted on 3/17/2006 9:10 AM
Grasso Takes Fifth on NYSE Oversight

http://snipurl.com/nqgx
Re: The DTCC Lashes Out Ineffectively, and Dishonestly, At Its Critics - Today It's Robert Shapiro By cynabear on 3/17/2006 10:21 AM
interesting video JohnBoy....my now deceased father would hve been thrilled that someone had made those videos and put them on the web...still watching them...nice for people to get a history lesson online about how the world of finance and kingdom/nation building really works and who is playing chess with all of us pawns....... wouldn't it be justice if it was a band of bloggers led by a bunny and an outspoken well connected entrpenurial cancer survivor that helped bring at least part of the game down.......i like it ..... this will play well in hollywood...
Happy Paddy day all