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What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena

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Posted by:   bobo 2/28/2006 8:07 PM

 

In the spirit of helping all the unfortunate folks that haven’t had a chance to follow along with the unfolding saga of the brave freedom fighters in our financial press (AKA ex-TSCM choagie Herb Greenberg and blowhard CNBC personality/co-TSCM owner Jim Cramer), the Easter Bunny would like to provide a simple, easy guide to dealing with the niggling annoyances that a federal subpoena from a regulator can cause. So consider this a primer.

Step 1: Conceal all evidence of being served, especially if you are a publicly-traded company. Unsophisticated investors might think that means you were up to no good, or that the company is in deep doo-doo. You owe it to your shareholders to keep this confidential as long as possible – what they don’t know, can’t hurt them, or at least not you, for now. Sell any shares you have of any public company that is party to the subpoena before announcing - you wouldn't want to profit from inside information should the markets celebrate the news. If you can sell just days or hours before announcing, even better, as it shows you aren't cowed by the insider trading rules - those are for pussies.

Step 2: Practice your best outraged, indignant denials. “How dare you, what do you take me for?” is good, “I, sir, am a divinely inspired soldier of truth, justice and the American way!” is better, and “I wipe my #ss with your stinking POS subpoena, you baboons!” is best. The more outraged the better. Imagine you're a gin-drunk Tourette's suffering longshoreman - let the expletives rip! Don’t worry, the regulator will no doubt immediately drop the silly investigation, as your assurances that you've made your many millions and bought your home in the La Jolla hills with 100% honestly-generated money should be good enough for them.

Step 3: A simple graphic is probably the easiest way to articulate this important step:

SEC.GIF

That’s right, throw the stupid annoyance away, or better yet, deface it and talk about what a bunch of Nazis, or fascists, or repressive dictators the regulators are. At no point admit that there may be any reason to be investigating your actions. Throw in an "F you" for good measure. Have fun with this!

note.GIF

Step 4: Deny everything, and change the story to one about your persecution. Blame everyone else, hint broadly that “they” are out to get you, no doubt as you are the last honest man. Repeat. Practice in the mirror if you break into nervous laughter when doing this at home. Try not to look like a poop-eating guilty dog when you do it, and don’t let the pitch of your voice run away from you like a schoolgirl at a Hilary Duff concert. And stay off the devil's dandruff no matter how badly you need "just a taste" to get by. You don't want to be Ray Liotta in Goodfellas when the copters come. Actually, nobody wants to be Ray Liotta, or Keanu, for that matter, copters or no...but I digress....

dog2.jpg ( Reminder: Don't be a guilty dog...)

Step 5: Assert your God-given right to do whatever the hell you want, and point out that nobody can tell you what to do, as you represent a higher calling. Being a member of the press works well, or alternatively, claim to be some religious or racial composite given to persecution. Note: avoid claiming that you are a female Tibetan monk if you are a white male that went to Harvard. Use common sense here, but feel free to be creative. Virtually everyone can claim to be persecuted by someone – make sure that you leave the motives of “them” to the imagination – retribution, to silence your voice of reason, a grand conspiracy, secret societies – again, virtually anything works. If you like, feel free to select one item from each column below, and insert it into the blanks, to construct your response:

___________A_________________ is/are conspiring with _________B_________ to persecute and silence me because of my ___________C____________, and I won’t yield to their power. I’ll never give in!!!

 

list.GIF

 

It’s just that easy!!! If you can convince a struggling media outlet to allow you to use it as your bully pulpit, so much the better – like voting in Chicago, do it early, and often.

And of course, get all lawyered up, and threaten to sue anyone that mocks you, especially if a holiday rodent.

Any questions?

Copyright ©2006 Bob O'Brien
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Comments (66)
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 2/28/2006 8:18 PM
ROTFLMHO!

I like the pictorial aids.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By rvac106 on 2/28/2006 8:30 PM
What did Steven A. Cohen do with his subpoena? Did he get one? If he's also involved with Gradient, where does that put him in relation to D. Rocker? Beside him? Beneath him? Behind him?

Write your letters, boys and girls. Tell Cox again how his actions across the next few weeks will be very important to his future. Tell Thomsen that we support her, and applaud her bold actions. We'd like to have the feeling that Cox and Thomsen will be around to protect us for many years to come.

RVAC
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 4:21 AM
Investor relations contact for tscm:

Debbie Slater
212-321-5409

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=65508&p=IROL-IRhome#contact

Investor relations contact for Dow Jones:

Mark Donohue
Director of Investor Relations
Dow Jones & Company
4300 North Route 1
South Brunswick, N.J. 08543
Phone: 609-520-5660

http://www.shareholder.com/dowjones/

Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Conductbecoming on 3/1/2006 4:22 AM
Bobo

I had an idea for your audience...Can you provide other known examples of ghost writers????

I will start: NVEC, which has been another SHO list favorite, had an article written by Jeff Young from the Motley Fool where the spelling mistakes were even identical to "research reports" issued by known short seller Asensio. (11/04)
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By JLB on 3/1/2006 4:59 AM
I see that they're circling the wagons at CNBC, Herb is guest hosting squawk box this morning. It should get interesting since Patrick is comming on next.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By MightyZum on 3/1/2006 5:17 AM
Man Bobo - those guys at CNBC REALLY want to know who you are! Great job this morning Patrick. You are a true patriot.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By JLB on 3/1/2006 5:17 AM
Wow, did you see Herb having a meltdown as his fellow squawkbox hosts cut him short as they pointed out that the SEC subpoenas seemingly have nothing to do with Patrick directly. Oh yeah, he ate the turds, it's written all over his face, no pun intended.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 5:18 AM
Thank you Patrick for holding up the sign linking to this website.

New visitors that saw the sign on CNBC, please post your questions about naked share counterfeiting.

The media is using cover up technique number 9. They are admitting, "ya, maybe Gradient Analytics manipulated research", but are steering really clear of the bigger issue of stock counterfeiting. Note how they always say "the war against short sellers" instead of the "war against naked short sellers". The later sell fake stock.

9. Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hang-out route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By x. trapnell on 3/1/2006 5:25 AM
To see Becky Quick in her pitbull mode, you'd think that it was Patrick who was under investigation! Great to hear Kudlow's treatment of Patrick given air time. Gasparino definitely seems to be on the right wavelength, bet he's planning another book.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By mhelburn on 3/1/2006 5:51 AM
Did you hear Herb attack Overstock? That is intimidation. The story is not about Overstock's earnings. It is about any company whose stock is illegally sold by individuals and the DTCC having the records and no mechanism or desire to stop the fraud. The SEC could stop this in day. All they have to do is enforce the laws that were written in 1934.. without exception.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By rtway1 on 3/1/2006 6:02 AM
My hats off to Charlie G. and Carl Q. I thought they showed professionalism and Charlie stood right up to Herbie who was stuttering like a blathering idiot. I would rather hear nails on a chalk board than listen to Becky (I am Above All You Underlings) Quick.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By MightyZum on 3/1/2006 6:03 AM
Herb can attack Overstock as much as he wants . . . Patrick said it best when he said "this is not about Overstock." He is right about that. Herb looks very naked and pretty short right now. I love seeing this guy squirm.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 6:07 AM
Post these links far and wide:

http://www.thesanitycheck.com/Portals/0/cramersubpoena2.jpg
http://www.thesanitycheck.com/Portals/0/cramersubpoena1.jpg
http://www.thesanitycheck.com
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By rtway1 on 3/1/2006 6:07 AM
Mary, are you not aware that you are questioning the supreme being, and a power greater than the laws of gravity, THE PRESS. How dare you suggest that they be accountable for any action or words. Now go hide in your corner and maybe you will be forgiven for those outlandish statements.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Shopper on 3/1/2006 6:19 AM
I'm going to go buy something on Overstock.com . . .who's coming with me?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By rtway1 on 3/1/2006 6:21 AM
I would like to see Herbie give his (giggle) proffesional analysis of The Street .Com now that Cramer and other officers are bailing out. Or where was his analysis of this crap stock when it couldn,t command a $1.00 a share, especially when at one time the stock traded at about $70. Maybe Jimmie shorted his own stock and is now covering.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By rtway1 on 3/1/2006 6:23 AM
Shopper that is an excellent idea.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By rtway1 on 3/1/2006 6:30 AM
The best part of that interview is when Patrick got in the face of the vivacious Becky Quick and reminded her that CNBC ,s ratings are in the toilet and Fox news is beating their pants off. Fox is a fair and balanced news source most of the time, and they don,t come off as being of higher powers than their listeners. Maybe this might be their wake up call.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By zimmer on 3/1/2006 6:39 AM
Anyone have a video link to the CNBC show this morning?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 6:41 AM
I don't want to get off topic, but Foxnews is mostly propaganda.

You should see the documentary http://www.outfoxed.org/

If you want to know what is going on in the world, there is no better place than popular websites like this one.

It's a meritocracy where the best sites rise to the top and sterile corporate websites don't attract viewers the way a popular blog can.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Scott on 3/1/2006 6:42 AM
Cramer and the other TSCM execs adopted a trading plan on 2/13/06. Is that before or after receipt of the subpoena? If before, could they have gotten wind of the subpoena before they received it? Those trades just look soooooo dirty.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By average jo on 3/1/2006 6:52 AM
saw snippet of cnbc continuing saga coverage of the subpoenas issued & "interview with patrick byrne. TV is a specially constructed medium. airetime is very limited and chopped up so your message must be quick and powerful. it takes much practice & polish to show a good media presence. that is a problem for byrne. these issues cannot be explained thru airtime snippets, controlled by the interviewers.
also his airtime polish doesn't compare to becky quick. she was prepared to grill him...like a procecuting attorney. while byrne is competant he is not as articulate.
but the aftermath was just pathetic on cnbc's part. how pathetic to make fun of the man for holding up websites to explain situation further. television media just hates the competition. as if anyone gets adequate education of issues on ad chopped TV.
quick's response to byrne's website display was to ask...who CONTROLS THIS SITE!
just like big powerful NBC.TV they only respect power & control.
hey, quick, its a website for THE PEOPLE, the non-PROFESSIONALS to discuss & inform each other without big media spin. sure, someone had an interest enough to spend time & talent to provide the technical set-up, expertise & keep it going.
bravo bob o. so he doesn't want to give powerful media/finance his "real identity"
makes sense to me. powerful entities have access to information we don't, they get privileges & face time with other seats of power. these people sit on each other's board of directors. if they were in conflict with someone, they mite have influence on university decisions, for instance. admissions could become a factor. i't not saying this actually has happened, but the power & influence is on their side.
so let's not be naive. that's an unfair battle.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 6:57 AM
The people always have the power. The problem is most of the people don't know about this issue yet.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By WickedWorld on 3/1/2006 7:12 AM
Average Jo,

You make some very good points. I'd add that Patrick is more articulate than Becky but much of that is lost on TV for the reasons you cite. The issues are complex in that there's more than one "core" issue (FTDs, NSS, criminal maniipulation, and an ignorant/complicit media by and large) which are intertwined. But at the same time it's quite simple: In the end it's fraud and theft.

Also Patrick is wearing several hats right now: CEO, Plaintiff, Shareholder Advocate and as such may not be able to say everything he would like. If this is the case then I can't imagine what it must be like to be prosecuted by CNBC 2nd stringers.

Displaying this website made the segment worthwhile, IMO. I never would have become informed about the totality of this issue had it not been for this site. Certainly I never would have from CNBC.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Kuma on 3/1/2006 7:25 AM
The Drudge Report is finally reporting on this.
www.drudgereport.com
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By WickedWorld on 3/1/2006 7:31 AM
Reuters is trying to mention this site but they spelled the URL wrong. Can they correct it?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By nowiggleroom on 3/1/2006 7:44 AM
LOL --need T-Shirt that says

:) <----- Im with stoopid

Thanks for hard work Bob O
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Grandma on 3/1/2006 7:51 AM
Power To The Sheeple
Keep the pressure on!

grammy
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By KUMA on 3/1/2006 8:06 AM
Bob,
I cannot get the link to drudge to work. If you can you should do it. He loves anything that drives traffic to his site. He also loves when people mention him. If you did a blog starring matt drudge who knows it might become the most noticed blog yet.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By rtway1 on 3/1/2006 8:14 AM
If anything happens to Jimmie in stock market career, maybe George Foreman can get him to pitch a few grills or Ron Popeil can bring back the pocket fisherman and Jimmy can get Herb to take the orders, he already has the pad and paper. Then Rocker could take their company public in Germany.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By bobo on 3/1/2006 8:22 AM
Try this:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By troydian on 3/1/2006 8:25 AM
http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/ChronDataBreaches.htm what could this have to do with NSS and DTC and even more NSA
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By J on 3/1/2006 8:58 AM
http://www.thesanitycheck.com/Blogs/GuestBlog/tabid/96/EntryID/114/Default.aspx

Slightly OT:

Thisguest blog is the first time that I've seen a plausible money flow to Herb. All of the wolf pack on Kudlow kept saying... if Herb took money, if Herb took money.... well here it is posited that maybe his back dating of the closure of his newsletter may have been quite a red flag indeed.

Hedgie buys lots of subscription from Herb? Gee.. hmmm...I would not be surprised to see this information come out.. or did it just come out?

Hmmm... I guess we wait, and watch.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By BobbyC on 3/1/2006 9:02 AM
Hey Bob and others-
Keep up the great work. I have been following your blog for a couple of months and the whole naked shorting mess for about 4 years. You guys are really becoming a catalyst for change. I sincerely applaud the effort.

Here is some data I compiled from the links above: There are insider trading sales at TheStreet.com for the month of Feb. 95% of these occur on or after Feb 14th.

CRAMER JAMES J (Director) 17 $794,510.02
LONERGAN JAMES (President) 12 $1,587,073.90
MOGENSEN LISA (CFO) 12 $1,973,912.72
CLARKE THOMAS J JR (CEO) 11 $3,301,406.94


Is this as blatant as it seems? Am I missing something here? I am no securities expert but man, what the hell??

BobbyC
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By jcline on 3/1/2006 9:13 AM
Anyone hear the roar of implosion?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By n-tres-ted on 3/1/2006 9:40 AM
BobbyC, thanks for totaling the sales. Those are astonishing numbers for insider sales. The subpoenas on TSCM are said by the news to have been served Feb. 6 or 7. No question, the subpoenas were material facts known to the insiders. By comparison, Martha Stewart had NO insider info, and transgressed only by misleading investigators.

Hmmm.... I notice TSCM is up more than double since May '05. Do you think that is tied to JC's fame on CNBC, or something else?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By bobo on 3/1/2006 9:41 AM
Boom
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By cynabear on 3/1/2006 9:45 AM
Yes Shopper I bought something at Overstock over the weekend, been holding NFI since 2002 and helped pay for the original add on NSS in the papers and have been writting all congressmen re this issue since EB took the lead. This is nothing compared to what others have done,
All of us need to do whatever we can again and NOW to make the pressure unrelenting on the scum and support the good guys.
Thanks EB et al. glad you are staying safe. I would recommend you get safer this issue is at the heart of so much that is wrong with our system and many fortunes ride on this...but then you know this.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By investletter.com on 3/1/2006 11:04 AM
I am disappointed. Where are butt munchers, the axis of evil and the devil made me do it?

Guard your reputation well, eventually you get the one you deserve. Indignant denial are just noise. The SEC don't come sniffin' for just a couple of wild predictions. I am sure there is some meat. Why no questions in the media as to why Cramer or Greenburg suspect the SEC is looking into them?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 1:22 PM
I was thinking that, too. Just because you get a subpoena doesn't mean you are the guilty party.

They could be subpoena'ing information in your possession for an investigation into someone else.

Herb seems guilty.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Bonzo on 3/1/2006 1:24 PM
Yessssssss, i heard that before....
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Frank on 6/3/2006 6:51 AM
This is huge!
http://www.secform4.com/insider/showhistory.php?cik=goog
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Jennie on 2/28/2006 8:30 PM
That is the funniest GD thing I think I've ever read. Honestly.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 2/28/2006 8:34 PM
This entry doesn't show up if you click "blogs" on the left menu.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By cynabear on 2/28/2006 8:54 PM
LMAO! sense of snow...........good one EB!
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By bobo on 2/28/2006 9:24 PM
Dave: Then don't click on "blogs" on the left menu...
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By clearthinker on 2/28/2006 8:57 PM
Bravo!

Don't forget this....

Invite a fellow subpoena served individual to smile at you, shake your hand, and tell you that you're a great guy....and a great American.....it's important to do....
Also, be sure to work for a network that will put you on every hour to proclaim your innocence
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By browntrout on 2/28/2006 9:16 PM
I hear you can just write BULL on it and send it back to the SEC if Christopher Cox is still there. Hopefully not for long. Also if you get one and you run a publicly traded company you don't have to tell anyone and all of the insiders can dump stock with the public shareholders never informed. Of course that could never happen with the SEC standing guard, right? The service on TSCM really doesn't count and all of those insider sales really didn't happen on Chris Cox's watch did it?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Mark on 2/28/2006 9:18 PM
Bobo

Maybe a blog on Crmaer's sales is in order. Or for that matter, the whole CNBC crew-what a farce.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By bobo on 2/28/2006 9:22 PM
Doesn't seem like that much stock sold after that wasn't a planned sale, frankly. But then again, I don't know how far in advance you have to plan the sale.

This from the Guest blog:

Re: StockGate: Take Your Subpoena, Linda Thomsen, And Park It – We’re All Journalists Here By Cramer dumps TSCM after subpoena on 2/28/2006 9:09 PM
http://biz.yahoo.com/t/23/246.html

Wowsers - cramer dumps TSCM stock after recieving a subpoena but before disclosing it.

What he did on his "vacation". Sold the stuffing out of TSCM stock, just like Rocker Partners.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By anon on 2/28/2006 9:23 PM
You left out the all-important step 1A -- while keeping the news secret, dump as many shares of your public company as possible in decent-szed blocks that raise some real coin but don't raise too many eyebrows:

http://www.form4oracle.com/company?cik=0001080056&ticker=tscm
CRAMER IS SELLING A LOT OF HIS OWN STOCK!!! By ANON on 2/28/2006 9:34 PM
WHAT A BUNCH OF SCAMSTERS!!!

THIS IS A BURNING HOT LINK...
http://www.form4oracle.com/company?cik=0001080056&ticker=tscm
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By killbill on 2/28/2006 9:50 PM
So buddy Jim sold some stock before the subpoena went public? The SEC nailed Martha to the frigging door for about $40K - I think it was less, actually, in the high $30 thousands.

Here, we have Cramer selling $22K worth just hours prior to dropping the bomb. How much insider trading is too much? What a dumbass.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By PhantomCertificates on 2/28/2006 10:00 PM
I think this link of just Jim Cramers transactions says it all:

http://biz.yahoo.com/t/23/246.html

His only sales came after Valentine's Day. Did he overspend on Valentine's Day gifts (EB did you get one?), or was it the gift that Ms. Thomsen delivered to his door.

Can you say Martha Stewart II at a minimum?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By RubeWaddell on 2/28/2006 10:10 PM
Ah prefers to git all likkerd up before I starts flashen mah subpeonies ats mah TV BooyaBoobs.

BOOOOOOYAHBAYBEEEEEEEEE!

Yeah, baby(wait while I scrach meself)
AHHHHHHHHH.

Mock This, COX This, Kiss MAH A$$ $EC!!!!

BooYah! I am JC




Easter Bunny Rocks!!!!
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By n-tres-ted on 2/28/2006 10:44 PM
Cramer's made the big time: (NYT)

http://snipurl.com/n1v1
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By n-tres-ted on 2/28/2006 10:55 PM
Wow! ANON, that is quite a link.

And BobO, this one is absolutely hilarious; worth every penny; right up there with the original "guilty dog" piece.
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Just Someone on 2/28/2006 11:02 PM
That's straight out the hand book! Bravo!
Good balanced press coming out of the non NY press By jg on 2/28/2006 11:53 PM
http://today.reuters.com/business/newsArticle.aspx?type=ousiv&storyID=2006-02-28T165754Z_01_N28483627_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-FINANCIAL-GRADIENT-DC.XML

By Anna Driver

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Independent research firms like Gradient Analytics Inc., which is accused of conspiring with short-sellers to drive down share prices, may end up in court more often as companies step up defense of their stock.

Gradient -- a Scottsdale, Arizona-based research firm, which promises clients the use of forensic accounting to uncover fraud -- has been sued by Canadian drug company Biovail Corp. (BVF.TO: Quote, Profile, Research) (BVF.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and online retailer Overstock.com Inc. (OSTK.O: Quote, Profile, Research), accused of conspiring with short-sellers to drive down share prices by issuing negative research reports.

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is also looking into the accusations that Gradient and hedge funds worked together to manipulate share prices. The government's inquiry came to light after journalists received subpoenas from the SEC earlier this month for their notes on stories about Overstock.

"There has been simmering concern about abusive short-selling practices," said Paul Kamenar, of the nonprofit Washington Legal Foundation.

"It's tricky because this is a more sophisticated area of trading. As people become more educated, I think you will see more lawsuits and enforcement actions."


my only issue is that they cite Prudent Bear as an example of short selling fund doing good and thus imply that RP and SAC also do the investing public a service since they short as well.
To even suggest these criminals are anything like David Tice( a great man. imo) is a tremndous disservice. Besides he manages mutual funds which are highly transparent and regulated, as opposed to a clandestine and unregulated hedge fund. He would never think of touching a greasy outfit like gradient.

But all in all the article was fair and balanced. Keep up the good work guys.

(full disclosure- i have invested in Prudent Bear Funds over the last 6 years)
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Grandma on 3/1/2006 2:30 AM

Lay off Ray Liotta. I happen to like him a lot.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000501/

love,
grammy
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By Patchie on 3/1/2006 3:49 AM
If you are Jim Cramer you may want to dump some shares as well. Funny how this timing all works. TSCM has had a recent run up after all these years of nothing (run based on a false rumor of a takeover) and suddenly David Rocker has dumped shares and so did good old Jimmy. Rocker has sold half his position since January and Jimmy just disclosed a bunch of sudden "Planned sales" between the subpoena on Feb 6 and the Disclosure on the 24th.

Classic pump and dump!

http://biz.yahoo.com/t/23/246.html
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 3:58 AM
I'm a fan of the Prudent Bear - they seem like a group of reasoned, rational people. I've never seen them suggest that their readers should counterfeit stock.

TSCM should have filed an 8K. We should all complain to the SEC about that one.

http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml

In my mind, legitimate shorting should have these components:

1. The owner of the stock should have a benefit, such as the ability to margin his or her account to buy stock on credit.

2. There should be full disclosure. The owner of the stock should know when it is lent out.

3. There should be a possibility of a squeeze if the owner of the stock pulls a certificate or sells the position.

The advantage of shorting in this scenario is it smooths out the bumps and creates pent up demand.

The current situation is that you counterfeit to your hearts content and NEVER cover under any circumstance, withdrawing collateral as the share price INEVITABLY declines because of the extra supply.


Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 4:01 AM
Seniors are a powerful voice for change (one of the biggest political lobbies as they tend to vote) and investments are going to be close to their hearts.

Has anyone tried writing to senior's magazines to get coverage on this?
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 4:06 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mb?s=TSCM
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By dave on 3/1/2006 4:11 AM
http://messages.yahoo.com/?action=q&board=DJ

Dow Jones is:

Marketwatch: Herb Greenberg
Wallstreet Journal: Jesse Eisenger
Forbes: Elizabeth Macdonald
DJ Wire: Carol Remond AKA Redmond
Barrons: Cheryl Strauss Einhorn
Re: What To Do If The SEC Ever Serves You With A Subpoena By J on 3/1/2006 4:17 AM
My vote for best word of the year definitely goes to "choagie"!

I can't find any definitions for it that fit it's use here either, so I think I can now credit the EB with helping to broaden the english language as well as illuminate the roachy corners of finance!

Choagie! lol

Sometimes I just find myself saying it to myself, and this morning I woke up and it was the first word I thought of... it really is very "suggestive" sounding term.. at least to my mind. haha..

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