An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A

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Posted by:   dpatch 12/28/2007 12:09 PM

Anthony Elgindy is a notorious short seller with a sordid past.  In the early 1990’s he was employed in several boiler room operations and engaged in bribery and stock manipulation schemes.  In the mid 1990’s his schemes were exposed forcing him to admit to Federal authorities what he had done. 

 

Instead of a jail sentence Elgindy was provided immunity from criminal prosecution and was enlisted as an informant. (Strike 0)

 

In the mid 1990’s Elgindy took refuge in a Texas Brokerage house where, while employed for the firm, submitted disability claims to an insurance company.   He was later prosecuted on charges of fraud associated with the false disability claims.  Elgindy would eventually spend several months in prison for these criminal acts. (Strike 1)

 

But Elgindy did not learn from his prior criminal mistakes and by the late 1990’s he was once again engaged in acts of fraud. 

 

Through the use of a private web site Elgindy created a cult following of hedge fund managers, boiler room traders, and disreputable federal and regulatory agents.  The web site was a chat haven of illegal trading schemes based on non-public information obtained illegally through these contacts and members.

 

In May 2002 Elgindy was again arrested for stock fraud.  This time the fraud was associated with activities linked to the site and was precipitated on irregular trading Elgindy had engaged in prior to the 9/11 attacks.  The Federal Authorities saw a potential link to Elgindy involving the funding of terrorist activities and inside knowledge into the attacks. 

 

In 2006 he was convicted and sentenced to 9 years in Federal prison for racketeering and stock manipulation.  An additional 2 years was tacked on to his sentence for his attempts to flee the country under a false passport while under trial for the stock fraud. (Strike 2) (Note:  Had Federal Authorities not given Elgindy a free pass on his first criminal activity in the 90's this would be a three strikes your out criminal conviction)

 

Anthony Elgindy remains in jail today. 

 

But Anthony Elgindy has not repented for his actions.  His cult following still exists, as does a Silicon Investor message board he moderates through a third party from his jail cell.  Elgindy’s moderation of the board is limited to banning those who chose to speak freely against his actions and against his methods of illegal trade.  The thread chatter is limited to his cult way of thinking.  Elgindy does not post on the thread himself because; while Silicon Investor allows him to moderate the board posters, and shut down open dialogue in the process they no longer allow him to post his own messages. 

 

So Anthony gets around this by funneling cult messages through a legionnaire called Jeffrey Mitchell.  Despite Elgindy's repeated criminal prosecutions Mitchell is a staunch cult like supporter and has vowed to follow Elgindy to whatever depths Elgindy will take him.

 

Recently Elgindy has once again opened up to his infantile and irresponsible beliefs regarding his rights to manipulate our securities markets.  He has come to thesanitycheck and read our discussions but responds to such on his own tightly controlled and moderated thread.

 

Over here we allow the Constitutional right of free speech to reign true unlike the cowardice acts of one Mr. Anthony Elgindy and supported by SI.

 

So…Since good old Tony wants to talk about things lets give him a forum of issues to talk about.  I urge you all to start dissecting his memo’s as they appear and lets see how he responds.  Lets have a good old-fashioned debate front and center here where the free flow of information is allowed.

 

Welcome aboard friends and write in your comments, questions, and suggestions ( NO ARTICLES PLEASE).  If Tony's followers do not post responses here but instead on his board I will drag over the links to keep the issue fluid.

 

Tony, feel free to extend an invite to Bond (JF), Mr Pink (DL), Archer (MH), Dako (MM), or any of the other former members to opine on this critical issue.  It would be nice to understand their impression of our securities laws past and present.

 

BTW…If you Digg this blog and get others to do the same we will be able to gain more exposure to the thoughts of one Anthony Elgindy. You have to create an account at Digg.com to Digg the blog and then follow the prompts.

 

Elgindy’s Commentary to date can be read in the links below.

 

December 25

 

http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=24160844

 

 

December 27

 

http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=24166032

 

 

December 28

 

http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=24167351

 

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Comments (30)
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/28/2007 1:42 PM
Tony, you state, “By joining this "game" as a public company and as participants in this game as shareholders you agree to the rules and those rules should make everyone aware that if you buy a share of stock ….every free-trading share that desires to trade in that market-place must know that it can be shorted”

The actual rules, rules you should understand as a registered market maker is that shares to be hypothecated are ones that are not held in cash or IRA accounts. These rules are specifically set up for the purpose of maintaining integrity in the markets; it provides people the right to protect their assets. As a non-investor, the short seller has no investment by definition and thus must trade within the availability of shares within the system.

Do you agree that these are the rules that have been in place for decades, that SHO never changed that, and that these are protections for the investor?
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/28/2007 2:02 PM
Tony you state, “First off, my shares aren't "phantom" shares. I am shorting a share of stock that exists... If it can’t be borrowed, it usually means it’s a massive fraud and a giant piece of crap. Thats really the bottom line...”

Without the process of a locate and a borrow how do you know it exists? By your logic people should be allowed to short at will and indefinitely. Where are the checks and balances, where are the controls? When you ran up to Canada to trade you did so to naked short stocks because you did not want to abide by the rules. Those created settlement failures – phantom shares in long shareholder accounts. Should the regulators open the markets up to this free for all where would the limits be placed. Lets say you want to “JUNM <--sell short 10% @ 9.50 or so ( SEC investigation, confirmed)” and everybody else you said this too sold short 10%. Soon chaos overloads the market as sellers dominate the market and soon more than 100% is shorted. At what level would it stop, 100%, 200%, 300% of issued shares? You end up all shorting the same share that exists over and over. How is this a balanced and fair market? Does such dilution not trash a stock with less than enough investors to purchase the 100, 200, or 300% of the shares just shorted without “permissions”?
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 1/14/2008 3:58 AM
You know what is really amusing in the release of the sealed documents, the Elgindy apologists are ignoring them despite the evidence that they have seen them. With so much circumstantial evidence relating Elgindy to 9/11 you really have to question Jeff Mitchell, Kevin Podsiadlik, and Peter Michaelson, to name a few as to whether they condone such treasonous activities.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By patchie on 1/14/2008 6:37 PM
As promised....new anthony@pacific documents

http://investigatethesec.com/drupal-5.5/node/114


Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By AP crybaby club on 3/27/2008 6:02 PM
what a pathetic little reading circle crybabys you are. LOL. When he gets out, lookout, he will pu you guys back in your playpens becuase you will never be able to trade the markets like he can. Tick Tock.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Revenge Seeker on 4/21/2008 12:18 PM
Does anyone know if Elgindy knows Timothy Miles, aka Nick Tracy, aka OurStreet? We found some links a year and a half ago, although some don't work anymore. I was just wondering if anyone knew if Timothy Miles or whatever name he is using these days knew Elgindy in a direct way or if the only link between them is that IP address and Magedson?

atot on ihub found an IP address 66.14.88.182 from an email he got from Ourstreet.

A search at http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?whoistoken=1 will give you:
Registrant Contact: Timothy Miles info@scamspotting.com
IP Address: 66.14.88.182 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)

Domain Name: EASYBACKGROUNDCHECK.COM
Current Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
IP Address: 66.14.88.182 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-WASHINGTON-BOTHELL
Record Type: Domain Name
Updated Date: 01-Aug-2006
Creation Date: 01-Aug-2004

when you googled that IP it came up with http://www.musecube.com/forums/general.htm?read=12714

It was a photography chat board that was having problems with some people from EasyBackgroundcheck.com . The site was blackmailing people trying to get them to pay them money or else they will print bad articles about them.
Les Henderson and ED MAGEDSON were arrested. http://easybackgroundchecked.com/


Some interesting info on ED MAGEDSON and Elgindy.
http://www.grtv.net/

Thanks for any info anyone can post.

Also is there a way I can email Mr. Patch something? I don't see an email address anywhere.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/28/2007 3:48 PM
Tony, your moderated board on Silicon Investor is infested with negativity on Overstock.com.

The trading in the OSTK has resulted in a short position that exceeded 150% of the public float and a fail to deliver position of greater than 40% of the public float. You claim universally that shares are not available because shareholders lock them up but this is an example where short sellers appear to have had unlimited access to short the stock. In the process the stock literally collapsed under the trading. How exactly do you differentiate a stocks decline due to the burdens of the short sale from that of normalized market equilibrium? What proof do you have that the market decline was not exacerbated by the short sales and thus it was held artificially low under the pressures of these trades? If a stock can be manipulated upwards it can be manipulated downward.

Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/28/2007 4:00 PM
“Those who issue shares have a responsibility to disclose the good as well as the bad, unfortunately history has shown us, that among the smaller companies that simply does NOT happen.” AE

Is it not hypocritical to demand that companies be open and forthcoming with both positives and negatives while you act as a moderator on a Silicon Investor board and ban people regularly that state an opinion differing from the cult society you run? Until recently I was for the most part the lone voice of dissent to on your board when it came to illegal short selling. You banned me for that to make the board unique in its views and opinions. Is that not manipulation in itself?

Tell me Tony, what fear do you have of making the board free for opinions to flow without censorship?
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/28/2007 5:28 PM
“All investors should be free to sell shares to the buyers who have chosen to believe the company's hype and wild rhetoric, and NOT just those few NASDAQ market-makers that have been approved by the NASD. It is fundamentally unfair….How the hell do we sit by and let NASDAQ market-makers do exactly what the public should be able to do??? How can we sit here and say what they do is "exempted" but if I or you try to do it, it's "non-exempted”???? Its absurd.......The bottom line is that we the public need more info about each stock that trades, and allowing each share to be made available for scrutiny is the only way that will happen.” AE

Tony, you are losing your sanity. As you have discussed previously, market makers sell short with impunity and do so at a disadvantage to the investing public. As a market maker and a trader you were accused of stock manipulation in the early 90’s and again in the late 90’s early 2000 timeframe.

1. Wouldn’t the appropriate response be to firm up the market maker exemption to eliminate the rigged market they set instead of risk every investor (investor defined as one who INVESTs) from the abuses of a free for all of fake shares entering the markets?

2. SHO ultimately put regulatory controls on the level of abuse a market maker can engage in since market makers are supposed to create market liquidity not manipulate market pricing, wouldn’t you agree?

3. How does the dissemination of accurate public info and short sale trades correlate? Certainly being able to short at will, without controls, does nothing for the dissemination of accurate corporate information, it simply allows people to create chaos. If your argument is about corporations being honest and truthful it has NOTHING to do with a short sale or a long sale. Your own private web site was about restricting information from the public so that you could profit at the highest levels.

It appears that you really don’t care about scam companies and exposing fraud to prevent injury, you only care about your ability to take advantage at the largest level possible even if that means that abuse occurs and more parties become injured in the process. Certainly holding a stock price down by unloading another 20, 30, 50% of the issued in unsettled short sales may save the existing shareholder from higher losses but you have also created 20, 30, 50% more shareholders who will have become victim.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/28/2007 6:26 PM
“…unsuspecting investors who buy stock when I have "illegaly obtained info", I never had illegally obtained info”

Care to elaborate on this dialogue?

10:59 bond: TONY ENOUGH PLEASE
10:59 anthony: JUNM <--sell short 10% @ 9.50 or so (SEC Investigation confirmed) trades goodentight (thin maybe a gator) trade accordingly or watch.
10:59 bond: PLEASE STOP. THAT WAS NOT FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE
11:01 anthony: BOND I apologize
11:06 anthony: quack I did get JUNM from the govt.
11:06 anthony: can’t say what branch
11:06 anthony: it was a low hanging branch
11:06 anthony: with guava fruit

Never say never unless you can back it up. Who is anthony and who is Bond?

When you offered up to authorities that you were taking bribes in the early 90's and manipulating stocks, was that part of the never you speak of as well? Did the public have access to the information you received as part of the bribes?
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/28/2007 7:48 PM
Tony you posted this on March 23, 2001

14:39 Anthony Pacific: anyone in PLMD?
14:39 Anthony Pacific: FBI sting I think is what im eharing have no confirm
14:39 Anthony Pacific: well I mentioend it here a few days ago
14:40 Anthony Pacific: did anyone hear me on it?
15:34 Anthony Pacific: BOND, I got a specific call that something major was comin down the pipeline on PLMD
15:39 Anthony Pacific: newest info on PLMD
15:39 Anthony Pacific: OK something definitely went down today on PLMD involving FBI
15:39 Anthony Pacific: an unnamed FBI source is confirming

You claimed in your leniency trial that you did not know about this until 51 Minutes after CIBC reported the news. Do you have the time it was reported on CIBC? Can you provide insight on the 14:39 statement where you admit that you mentioned the FBI sting “a few days ago”, as in BEFORE CIBC reported the news?

I would contend that having access to this type of information (and you are not the only one that gains such access to illegal information, it is rampant amongst market squirrels) requires that controls must be put in place that protects the integrity of the market from massive abuse. In the case of a short sale, the “permission” rule as you call it limits the amount of illegal sales that can be made on such non-public information. Having a “no permission” system and a free for all of naked shorts could become an easy vehicle of abuse.

This dialogue appears to the outside observer that you were scanning the crowd to find out if anybody was able to profit on your earlier communication. If they did, that is aiding and abetting even if you didn’t trade as you contend.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Anyone-But-Patchie on 12/28/2007 8:18 PM
Hope you like talking to yourself Patchie!! Maybe the idiot a-hole will join you here.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/28/2007 8:38 PM
I am hoping Tony would welcome us with responses and his opinions. By the logs posted it looks to me like Tony has been misrepresenting the facts and all of you that bought his baloney stories about only trading on legally obtained info.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 12/29/2007 9:28 AM
In Response to my accusations that SI is aiding Elgindy in controlling the flow of speech on the board, SI Administrator SI_Dave posted a response to this blog on the Elgindy thread:

"Assuming Anthony Elgindy is still incarcerated in a federal facility, all of that noise about who is the moderator and the location of where the actions originate is of course total bullshit."

1. There is no assuming regarding Elgindy's Incarceration
2. The evidence of who is in control of the board has been provided by the same individual who continues to post Elgindy's messages from jail. In a posting after my banishment from SI Jeffrey Mitchell posted

"'FYI, both Floyd and I did ask Tony, who does actively monitor this thread, to reinstate Patchie. He said there are many other places on SI where he can voice his opinion (and exercise his right to free speech) and therefore adamantly declined to do so. His question for Patchie (which I'm paraphrasing) is if the government's case was so strong, why did they feel the urgent need to try him in NYC and continually bring up 9-11?'

Now you don't go to Tony to request reinstatement unless you are aware that he is the one who has such authority. Further admission of such authority comes via the representation that Engindy adamantly refused to comply.

SI administrators have admitted their allegiance to this habitual criminal going so far as to banish him in 1999 and then allow for a member vote of his cult to justify his re-instatement. Elgindy is the ONLY SI member whose permissions have been reinstated after banishment based on a vote presented to all members by the administrators.

All should openly question what incentive SI and these administrators have in providing free access to such a criminal.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By tenn21 on 12/29/2007 4:41 PM
I was banned years ago from SI--don't know why, never gave a reason, never reinsated;
I suppose that traffic ticket for running the red light did it, oh well, once a traffiic criminal as such never to be pardoned again in any thing to do with the stock market chat boards.
Anthony Elgindy, just 1 quick question By bigdaddie on 12/30/2007 5:52 AM
just 1 quick question, of many, but for lack of time, this jumped out at me, more to follow if you respond...

per your earlier response.....
http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=24167351

5th paragraph...
"No American is entitled to the right to be able to sell their property to just anyone for any reason"

HUH?????
Since when? Explane your logic and substantiate your statement.

This is a False statement in the America i live in.
1 of many i noticed in your response, but lets start here.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Tell us Tony on 12/30/2007 11:05 AM
Can we get a logical expanation for this?

I found a hit on Anthony Elgindy (stock trader nabbed with two FBI agents for extortion and fraud) at Slashdot, of all places. Mr. Elgindy cashed out his children's $300,000 trust fund on September 10th, stating to his broker that the market would drop to 3,000.

Isn't this the day before 9/11? How did you know?
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Tell us Tony on 12/30/2007 11:32 AM
Wow, I just found this.

Tony is this all true? Did you really just happen to liquidate $6 Million just prior to 9/11? Days before the attack, Elgindy also wired money to Mercy International, can you tell us more about this charity?

http://voxpopnet.net/elgindy.html
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By rtway on 12/31/2007 2:04 PM
Dave,
Has the scum ball taken you up on your offer or any of his sock puppets. I just re-read that article on him to be reminded of what a farce our media and our government are as far as reporting what this guy pulled off. We had 3hrs. a day of what Marth was wearing and what her chores were, I would like to see a follow up by the media to see what kind of punishment has been delved out to this traitor. If anything he should have been given the death penalty.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By old duffer on 12/31/2007 10:35 PM
rtway,he has been, is my guess,based on his refusal to stop his criminal intent.

By God, if he does not repent.

His worry is has God "given him over" in the Biblical sense?
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Anthony K on 1/4/2008 12:06 AM
I just got banned from S.I

Elgindy ....i remember you were crying when the judge sentenced you ..LOL
you said something like " but i have 2 children " LMFAO

take it in the ass
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By No one in particular on 1/4/2008 6:11 AM
Imploding the world trade center would be a great way to cover a large short, wouldn't it?
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By fc on 1/4/2008 6:17 AM
No on in particular......of course. Why do you think wtc7 was demolished? Who inhabited those buildings? Let the truth be discovered and known to all!
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By No one in particular on 1/4/2008 6:42 AM
The SEC right? Mind you that this is all idle speculation, but if naked shorting from offshore ended the bubble as BB has said, then the bad guys would need an event to cover.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Watching the Hen House on 1/7/2008 3:17 PM
Have you heard of the F_ Fox campaign for excluding the presidential candidate who wants to get rid of the US Federal Reserve from the debates and who is the only anti war candidate in both parties? I'm not naming him as this isn't a political post.

The activists started shorting them a week ago and the stock has been on a steady decline. They want to short them to $8.

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/NWS

They own Dow Jones and the various subsidiaries that ran the propaganda campaign against this site. (Wallstreet Journal, Marketwatch, DJ Newswire, New York Post, Barrons, etc.) They are the common link to every scuzzy pro naked shorting article.

Wouldn't it be the ultimate revenge if the biggest supporters of selling counterfeit stock find themselves shorted into oblivion? You can get even and make a lot of money at the same time.

Disclosure: I'm not short yet, but plan to short them tomorrow morning.
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Watching the hen house on 1/7/2008 3:42 PM
The naked shorting articles were propaganda too. He seemed to have a lot of influence at DJ even when the Bancrofts owned it.

Murdoch Confesses To Propaganda On Iraq
Filed under: General, Propaganda, Scandalous — Mark @ 5:46 pm

Last Friday, at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Rupert Murdoch sat on a panel where he lamented what he described as a “loss of power” due to the ascension of the Internet and other new media. The notion that this captain of one of the most dominant media conglomerates in the world is trembling in the shadow of bloggers is simply absurd. Especially when you consider the fact that his company is also a dominant player on the Internet with an aggressive acquisitiveness that includes MySpace, the world’s largest online social networking site.

But there was a more shocking exchange that took place that ought to have caused more of a stir amongst professional journalists and all freedom loving people. It was an exchange that revealed something that most conscious beings knew, but which I have never seen explicitly articulated.

Murdoch was asked if News Corp. had managed to shape the agenda on the war in Iraq. His answer?

“No, I don’t think so. We tried.” Asked by Rose for further comment, he said: “We basically supported the Bush policy in the Middle East…but we have been very critical of his execution.”
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Watching the Henhouse on 1/7/2008 3:46 PM
The mistake Patrick is missing here is that Fox owns all the media outlets that are fighting us on the naked shorting issue.

As an Overstock shareholder, I believe it is in Overstock's CORPORATE interest to protect itself from the advertiser boycott and not send corporate funds to the exact same media that supports share counterfeiting.

Patrick, if you are reading this, I humbly ask you to reconsider.


Dear Customer,

Because Overstock advertises on Fox channels, Overstock has been receiving calls and email messages about Fox News decision to exclude Dr. Ron Paul from the upcoming January 6 forum in New Hampshire, a decision that seems especially rank given the fact that in yesterdays Iowa Caucus Dr. Paul out-polled Mayor Giuliani by a factor of 2.5:1. I always enjoy hearing from our customers, particularly those who display political commitment of any flavor, and I thank them for their calls and emails.

In October Dr. Paul came to Utah, and he and I visited for an hour in my office. After that meeting, I gave him the largest donation I could under federal law: it is rare to meet a politician who understands the Constitution, and rarer still to meet one who thinks it binds the government meaningfully (I would give Dr. Paul more were there not now a federal blackout on free speech known as "McCain-Feingold"). In a television interview last week I stated that, while for the first time in my life I felt there are several candidates qualified to be president, my #1 choice would be Dr. Paul.

That said, I believe that pulling Overstocks advertising from Fox would represent an inappropriate conflation of my personal politics with my corporate responsibilities: thus, fellow supporters of Dr. Paul, my answer to you is, "no." However, I have contacted Fox and told them that, as a major advertiser, I believe it is unconscionable of them to exclude Dr. Paul from participating in this forum on January 6, thus denying our polity the opportunity to make an informed choice.

Respectfully,

Patrick M. Byrne, Ph.D.

CEO, Overstock.com
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 1/10/2008 11:43 AM
Tony, As part of the sealed transcripts that is now unsealed was a conversation pertaining to your ties to 9/11. Apparently one of your wfe's family members reported you as being suspect in this area?

"The second is the family member of Mrs. Elgindy who calls in and gives a very specific report about Mr. Elgindy, her belief in his ties and other activities and Mr. Royer runs that name specifically. So, I understand the Court's concern about not having other people dragged into this but that fact and what's being reported is an important fact in the calculus that we believe these defendants are taking in investigating what in making their decisions on how to react."

Can you explain why this would take place and more about the prediction for the market drop you made on September 10?


"Mr. Cleveland knew one of the people who reported Mr. Elgindy, potential terrorism, Mr. Elgindy·s broker and that the investigation regarded Mr. Elgindy's attempts to liquidate his children's accounts. That's what I'm going to get into. TO the best of my memory that was his testimony."
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By No one in particular on 1/11/2008 7:04 PM
Elgindy is a small time player in this. He was loyal, and got the information just in time.

Look at the building collapses. Clean. Very clean. Looks like a controlled implosion, ehh?

If you got career officers at the CIA/FBI, just below the political appointees on your payroll, say 10 mill a piece, could you make that happen? Corruption in government - say it aint so.. Marc Rich, say, hypothetically might want to make that happen. Pretty cheap investment when you look at the potential payoff.

What a dream scenario if you had a short position on the entire US stock market..

Osama and short sellers interests are perfectly aligned.

Wikipedia is interesting. Lockerbie - SlimVirgin connection. MI5 controlling information..

This is apolitical, but think you're gonna solve the naked short selling issue during this administration? Not a chance..
Re: An Open offer for an Anthony Elgindy Q & A By Patchie on 1/12/2008 9:33 AM
Newly released information on elgindy really raises doubts about the man. according to the Feds' Elgindy was talking about 9/11 days before the events and...Elgindy was turned into the Feds by a family member concerned about his ties to al queda.

http://investigatethesec.com/drupal-5.5/Elgindy

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